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myLot reputation of 53/100. CallieWVU2 (108)   ranked 2,658 out of 4,899 in writing6 months ago

Even though it's kind of too late for me to be thinking about whether or not it's actually a good enough idea to write as a novel, I'd like to know what everyone thinks of this idea.

It's basically about a professional baseball player who is a serial killer, in the first chapter he gets acidentally hit by a car and dies, and then it backtracks to how his parents met, and then eventually catches up to him at moments in his life, some of them when he was younger and some when he is older.

The baseball player is the main focus of the novel really, it's all about him, he never gets caught, and it shows how his mind works and what is going on in his head.

If you have any suggestions please let me know...

 
 
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Johnnypenn (174) response was accepted on 6/18/2008.
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1. myLot reputation of 84/100. Johnnypenn (174)   ranked 191 out of 4,899 in writing   6 months ago

Ah, a sociaopath who hits balls for a living. Sounds interesting to me. I think you should write it. Remember, this story is for you. You've got to write a book that you'd want to read. I find that if I do it that way, others tend to get into it a whole lot more than if I just wrote for people and have no clue how I go about it.

If I ask what I would like to read, it helps me to actually write it.


myLot reputation of 53/100. CallieWVU2 (108)   ranked 2,658 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

yeah its definitely something I wanted to write, and sort of something I had to write in order to remember someone that I thought I would never see again, but he came back...


myLot reputation of 84/100. Johnnypenn (174)   ranked 191 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

Than write it and have fun with it. Get down and dirty and evil. Have no qualms! take no prisoners!

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2. myLot reputation of 95/100. cwilson26 (1446)   ranked 115 out of 4,899 in writing   6 months ago

Sounds like a great idea for a novel! I currently only write short stories but have been thinking of trying my hand at a novel.:)


myLot reputation of 53/100. CallieWVU2 (108)   ranked 2,658 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

Thank you so much for thinking so...when I tell people there just like..."Well that's different."


myLot reputation of 84/100. Johnnypenn (174)   ranked 191 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

I rather write a novel than a short story. Though, if I have no idea what is going on, I do short scenes to figure it all out.


myLot reputation of 53/100. CallieWVU2 (108)   ranked 2,658 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

And then they immediately ask if he kills people with a baseball bat:(


myLot reputation of 84/100. Johnnypenn (174)   ranked 191 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

*lol*
Just because the dude plays base ball doesn't mean he kills people that way. He could do it with a number of things.

Oooo...have you considered him taking a trophy from his murders? he could take the eyes or something.


myLot reputation of 53/100. CallieWVU2 (108)   ranked 2,658 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

He takes their faces

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3. jkg0679 (29)   6 months ago

It sounds very interesting. Already I am wondering if he regrets anything and wanting to read it myself! I say if you want to write it, have a go at it!

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4. myLot reputation of 85/100. wildplace (103)   6 months ago

Just imagine...

After the death of the professional baseball player (aka the serial killer) someone founds the faces of his victims in his fridge....


myLot reputation of 53/100. CallieWVU2 (108)   ranked 2,658 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

that would be cool,,,unfortunately i already have it in the novel that he's had them put in paintings. Like a portrait of the person was painted in, I'm not sure what exactly he would use to keep the skin from rotting...what's that stuff they have in funeral parlor's and they also say is in McDonald's french fries, to keep them preserved?


myLot reputation of 84/100. Johnnypenn (174)   ranked 191 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

Taking their faces is even better! there is absolutly no way the police can identify the victims unless they have their IDs on them. Brilliant idea. Very weird and dark.


myLot reputation of 95/100. LilyoftheThorns (3310)   ranked 12 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

I really like the idea that he painted his victims! That is really cool and unusual. Also it's a little erie!!!=P lol. That's a great idea.


myLot reputation of 69/100. theprogamer (7373)   ranked 883 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

Wait wait wait. Taking the faces has been done in fiction, a bit often from my recollection. Of course it is your story Callie. You are the author, so you are the boss. So choose whatever you wish on this.

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5. myLot reputation of 95/100. LilyoftheThorns (3310)   ranked 12 out of 4,899 in writing   6 months ago

Just so I'm understanding this...the story starts at the end right? It starts with him dying, and then it goes backwards and shows his life as a baseball player/serial killer?

I think that is defeniatly a scenrio. I don't remember it ever being done before. Is his weapon of choice a bat?=P lol


myLot reputation of 69/100. theprogamer (7373)   ranked 883 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

I've seen several fictions work from the "end" and then explain chapter by chapter how we got there. Of course it has to be done quite flawlessly to work that way. If I know the villain dies in the beginning and I'm shown say a poorly defined or boring path to that end... the story won't be great. Typically there are hidden messages and morals applicable to life, ethics, reason, knowledge or current events... some sort of lesson or message. Or it could be something dramatic, maybe even surprising to show the reader what caused the dysfunction in the villain.

 
6. myLot reputation of 69/100. theprogamer (7373)   ranked 883 out of 4,899 in writing   6 months ago

I said my suggesions and comments in responses to other responses.
I believe your story would work if it had the appropriate impact in events. The villain is dead at the beginning, but what would motivate the reader to continue reading after that? Sure some would be curious about his past, but perhaps you should take a chapter or two or three to expose the villain for all he is. If its concise and accurate, it should work. Now you explain the killer is never caught, hopefully it'll be convincing enough to hold reader interest. Sure the perfect villain is a draw, but it has to be done quite well (Death Note for example).


myLot reputation of 84/100. Johnnypenn (174)   ranked 191 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

The only person who NEEDS to be convinced is the writer themselves. Stories don't work if it is written for an audience. Usually I can tell right off the bat what's going to happen.

Now, what Callie can do is keep her villian base ball player from making his identity known. She could use words like "He" or tell the first part, when he dies, from first person. That way, since the readers don't know what/who this dude is, then they will read the rest of the book and at the second end of the book, Callie can then reveal the base ball player for who he is.

And, plots can be re-worked. Just because she is using something that is seen a lot in fiction, doesn't mean that she can't use it in a whole new way.


myLot reputation of 69/100. theprogamer (7373)   ranked 883 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

"And, plots can be re-worked. Just because she is using something that is seen a lot in fiction, doesn't mean that she can't use it in a whole new way."

I didn't say either couldn't be done... at all. I simply wanted to post some different thoughts on the matter. And yes there is predictability if you take the audience into consideration, I've seen that, but I've also seen predictability when the writer writes solely for the self. In the end, writers can do whatever they want, but suggestions were asked for. Simply wanted to voice some thoughts I had.


myLot reputation of 84/100. Johnnypenn (174)   ranked 191 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

I think she can rework it. I think Callie has the guts do to something different.

 
7. tikaldema23 (80)   ranked 2,255 out of 4,899 in writing   6 months ago

I like the idea basically. I think the whole serial killer thing and the story jumping to parts of his family and his life to sort of explain and take us into the characters mind is a great idea. I think that if you like it and if you really use some great techniches and writting it could be a great book. I might read it. The only thing I have to be honest about is the whole baseball thing. I think that it's okay because it's far fetched and original but I don't think that a serial killer's profile can be comparable to a professional baseball player's. It's just not compatible. It sounds weird. But hey, maybe you're a terrific writer and you'll make it work. I hope you do, because if you can pull it off, it'll be a great science fiction/psychological book.


myLot reputation of 84/100. Johnnypenn (174)   ranked 191 out of 4,899 in writing  6 months ago

The baseball thing didn't surprise me, really. My best friend is doing something like this. I won't give details, but she did something different there as well. Once again, I won't say what she did, however, the profession of her SK is the normal sort, Doctor/psychologist.

Actually, if anyone watches those cop shows on A&E and TruTV (Court TV) -- you'll see that serial killers can come in any shape or size. The usual are the people you would never suspect as the killer.

 
8. LineDrive (17)   6 months ago

He has to have a girl friend/wife that has know idea what he is up to. She just thinks he is a good ball player.

 
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