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myLot reputation of 70/100. bookworms (224)   ranked 1,164 out of 7,859 in dogs 4 years ago

My friend who is a pet loving vegan was offended that Ceasar " domineers " the animals and actually used choke chains.

Although i would not personally do that, i cannot deny his animals are all well behaved and appear to be very happy... Am i not seeing something ???

 

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tags:  collars, cesar millan, choke, choker chains, dog
 
1. myLot reputation of 99/100. CharRay7 (902)   ranked 135 out of 7,859 in dogs   4 years ago

Hi and Welcome to MyLot!!

I have watched Cesar in action on some of his shows and when he was on Oprah. He has many different views on the way to train dogs. I've learned alot from him and tend to agree that we as the owners are the 'domineers". If I didn't use that theory on my five dogs, this household would be in a big upheaval!lol

I do not agree with him about using choke chains for collars. I feel that is abusive and down right mean. I have regular collars for my dogs and with some of his tips and training it works out just fine. happy

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2. myLot reputation of 83/100. Piscesmoon (2886)   4 years ago

I do not know who Caesar, the dog whisperer, is so I don't know his methods. However, if a choker chain is put on correctly - not upside-down like a lot of people accidently put it on - it does not choke a dog. You give it a little tug and it tightens slightly but loosens again straight away. Really, it is less cruel than using a bit in a horse's mouth and some big dogs do need a choker chain to train them. If used properly, the dog will feel the choker chain tighten slightly but NOT to the point of choking and they quickly learn not to pull ahead or how to change direction when you give a GENTLE pull on the lead.


dogperson (73)  4 years ago

We have a pack of 12.
I am the leader.
Do I dominate? Sure, I have too.
With out a leader there would be chaos.
Look at a wolf pack. How many leaders do we see? One.

Milan is the leader of his group and he shows them leadership and love and respect and so on.
Using a choke chain, as noted by another, there is a wrong way and a right way.
Milan uses verbal corrections and leash corrections, depending on the dog and the problem.
Not sure how many have been next to or behind a K9 dog in training, but the use of a choke chain and strong leash is the one and only thing that a trainer has to control the dog with at times.

Voice commands are fine, but when a dog reaches a point they do not hear any more and need a physical correction.

Using the chain and leash saves one from a reaction or adrenaline bite.
I have had a few bite me, not in anger but merely a reaction, the K9 dogs in training, because I used my hand to get their attention and not the leash and collar.

Any reputable and knowledgeable trainer will adjust the methods used on a dog.
We also should remember that dogs bodies have evolved from mostly working dogs and the shoulder and neck area are very strong and resilient and a tug now and again on a choke chain, properly sized and fitted, will do no harm.

The same is true of pinch collars. They are a tool, to be used with dogs that do not understand the corrections with a choke chain. People will leave the pinch on and it is not fitted corrected and it serves no use. Used properly it serves to re-enforce what is being taught and then when the lesson is learned the collar should be removed and not used again, unless there is a relapse in the learning.

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