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myLot reputation of 75/100. TheCarter (253)   ranked 1,474 out of 9,015 in parenting 4 years ago

If I kill a woman who is with child I get two counts of murder. If a woman kills the baby herself she is without guilt? Does that make any sense?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 82/100. spalladino (11857)   ranked 494 out of 9,015 in parenting   4 years ago

I'm sorry, I really hate arguing with Jesus because I am a Christian but killing a woman who is pregnant is not necessarily two counts of murder. It depends on many factors that differ from state to state.

I'm not *for* abortion but I am *for* women and their right to choose and for that choice to be a safe one. Too many women died before abortions were legal and wanting to end a pregnancy should not be a death sentence for a woman. Does that make sense?


myLot reputation of 75/100. TheCarter (253)   ranked 1,474 out of 9,015 in parenting  4 years ago

I think that our personal logic makes absolutely no sense. There should be one law that covers the entire program, not many laws that break up the argument into small pieces so as to add increasing confusion. Thou shalt not kill... that covers everything that has to do with a man/wo-man taking a life. If a woman decides she does not want to mother the child after birth then give it away for adoption.


myLot reputation of 82/100. spalladino (11857)   ranked 494 out of 9,015 in parenting  4 years ago

Perhaps my logic makes no sense to you but it apparently made sense to the Supreme Court or abortion would still be illegal.

If you want one law to cover the entire program does that mean that "Thou shalt not kill" also applies to someone who is defending him/herself and kills their attacker? Does that apply to the soldier in the battlefield? Not to get too personal here but did my husband commit a mortal sin in your opinion in Viet Nam when he defended his life against an anemy who's goal was to slaughter him?
I understand that you are completely against abortion, and I respect your opinion, but it's not as simple as you make it out to be. The decision to abort is rarely made easily and there are situations were having the child and giving it up for adoption is not an option. You cannot walk in everyone's shoes so you don't know.


myLot reputation of 82/100. spalladino (11857)   ranked 494 out of 9,015 in parenting  4 years ago

I'm very disappointed in you Carter. I see that you responded to some posters in your other discussion similar to this one yet you don't do me the honor of answering my questions regarding your views on "Thou Shalt Not Kill". I really would like a response but I won't hold my breath waiting for it.


myLot reputation of 75/100. TheCarter (253)   ranked 1,474 out of 9,015 in parenting  4 years ago

I am sorry friend. It is my busy season and I am not able to respond as quickly I would like.

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2. myLot reputation of 89/100. kblakley (209)   ranked 454 out of 9,015 in parenting   4 years ago

This is something that has always puzzled and urked me! It doesn't make sense to me at all and I don't think it's right. If their going to make abortion legal up to a certain stage of the fetus, then it shouldn't be murder until the fetus is that stage too. Or then, abortion shouldn't be legal (that's my personal opinion)

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3. myLot reputation of 90/100. taface412 (2039)   4 years ago

Valid points. But unfortunately you have people who question what is considered a baby and when....But to me conception is the beginning of life...and like i said in a previous discussion you posted the fetus will only grow into a baby, not anything else.

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4. myLot reputation of 79/100. hildar (704)   4 years ago

I dont know I personally dont believe in abortion, unless if it was a life threatening situation. Like a tubal pregnancy or something like that. Or like with my sister inlaw that almost went blind. She had to have one they told her she would go blind if she had it. It was bad enough as it was, but emotionally she was never the same after that. Her and my brother got divorced due to the fact that she couldnt handle what she had done. Had it of been me. I would rather of taken my chances and maybe of gone blind. I have to say that would have been my choice. But I am just that type of a person.

Hilda

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5. myLot reputation of 84/100. eden32 (2986)   ranked 293 out of 9,015 in parenting   4 years ago

If you murder a woman who is expecting you do not automatically get charged with two counts of murder. If the pregnancy is past the point of viability, then perhaps a person would be charged with two counts. Terminations occur before viability. It makes perfect sense.

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6. myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (17670)   ranked 463 out of 9,015 in parenting   4 years ago

I hate the idea of abortions and would never choose to have one myself. I think that many ladies that have had one regret their decisions but it is too late, no amount of money will bring back a dead baby. If a lady gets pregnant but does not want a baby she should adopt her baby to a loving family. Abortion is murder and yet is is acceptable in our society for some people. I respect other people's decisions though. I feel that hospitals are bad places if they do abortions. In one part ladies have babies in the maternity unit, in another part ladies have fertility treatment and abortions are carried out in different part. Murder and man slaughter are serious crimes yet abortion is thought to be a medical procedure. I wonder why anyone would choose to carry out abortions because they would have much guilt and no job satisfaction. If all in the medical profession refused to do abortions that would be great. Adoption should become easier to do because many children need loving homes.

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7. myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15802)   4 years ago

To me it sure does. If you kill me and my unborn child , it is a double murder. But if I Choose to have an abortion, it is up to me, no one else.If you see it as murder then think of it as justifiable homicide because it is either me or the baby , you can't have both.I Never wanted to have a baby so the Only reason I would find myself pregnant is because I was raped.There is no guilt , period.

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