How do you feel about patriotism?  

sataness, I think that exactly, the lack of teaching to our youth the proper way to exersice the sentiment of patriotism, is what has open the doors for all the extremist to easily infiltrate our societies all over the world. The absence of this essential morals, ethics and responsabilities is what are making us to fall apart!
Thanks for taking the time to give it a thought!

Patriotism for me seems a very American word. I don't know why this is. Perhaps it is just they hark on about it the most. I agree that in Britain we have an aversion to using words like 'patriotism' and 'nationalism'. However I think this is more than mere semantics. We don't do all the ostensible displays of flag worship and constitution/Bill of Rights quoting ad nauseam like the Americans do. I'm actually quite glad. My view of being British is about embracing the incredibly rich fabric of culture we have as a result of being a people so diverse in background and even values. Thus, I suggest the core values and morals we need to hold on to is not any one doctrine of behaviour or ceremony, but a commitment to at least consider others' ways of doing things fairly and with open minds.

Also Sataness,

Out of interest, from which Newspaper do you quote above?

And I must take issue with what appears to be your understanding of Archbishop Dr. Rowan Williams' lecture.

Here is the original text of the lecture:
www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/1575

Please go one better than it would seem most of the news journalists who wrote the articles at the time bothered to, and actually read the original document before castigating the man.

'crafting a just and constructive relationship between Islamic law and the statutory law of the united kingdom ' <- i think before we bring other laws into our country we need to have a firmer reliability on the justice system we already have; why accept two sides to law when by coming into our country everyone should be treated with the equality deserved. Oh and by the way? With that story all editions of the paper at that time mentioned the story: The Times, News of the World, The Sun etc etc the claim was made by various schools government boards
and also by one of the parties (im afriad its been a while so i can't quote which)
embracing a different cultural life, we are rapidly converting to a multi-racial country and without accepting it there'll be no evolution and addaption in our way of life, and i suppose eventually we will also have to accept an addaption to our law - maybe it's needed im not too sure. However by favouritising islamic law at this present time wpuld also isolate the other countless religions/ cultures etc etc who would also then have the right to claim that law should be changed to their style also. Having a belief in your country isn't wrong, when i say i have faith in my countries basic system it doesnt mean im not willing to embrace new cultures which is a foul accusation to make. It just means i think our government are already favouritising people for various reasons but they need to remember theres other people still in need and that our law system already covers all basics
crimes in the country and i dont see how changing them is gonna make things any less difficult and more easier. When i meant
e changes in our bases i could go as far as to say nursery rhymns such as '3 little pigs' and ba ba black sheep' are all being changed for ridiculaous reasons and the glove treatment many criminals now get.

Please see response below.

Lol, well my apologies if i offended anyone... and my main problem with the ba ba black sheep rymn was the change in vocab originally.. because initially it was going to be changed to 'rainbow sheep' which rather boldy highlights the changed word and weird reasoning behind it; as well the story of the Three Little Pigs being discontinued. Going back to the initial discussion, i wasn't intentionally penalising that person, it was the thought process behind the comments being discussed in parliament and with that bishop that made me overreact i guess, i really dislike the idea of inequality and the mass media spread was wrongly placed close to a story about a muslim that was conning thousands of pounds our of government (so eventually taxpayer) as he started preaching hate of britain, i could lead on to say that around the same time there was a massive spread also about the government members and the way their money is used. So i have to agree on the overexageration within newspapers who tend to lead minds down a specific twisted path as i only just recently discovered (much to my shame). It was also then taught in an R.E Gcse lesson earlier this year, about what he was 'supposedly' planning to do (the bishop that is) in suggestions of combinin 2 sets of laws. I have to still say though, even with full more trueful information on that particular case, that we need to figure and weed out the laws still present due to their lacking in substance and in the failing of people being brought to justice of crimes commited. I didn't mean to specifically draw out muslims either, so i apologise for that, i meant to point out how the governments favouritism is dangering people, meaning the early recruitment of people who havent recieved the full qualification here but are rather being hired under impressions that they can pay them cheaper etc etc (personal experience here so no reference). Thank you for highlighting my blatant errors lol and i hope ive cleared some things up.