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myLot reputation of 92/100. daydreamer20 (766)   ranked 32 out of 385 in the lord of the rings 4 years ago

I'm a big big fan of lord of the ring but I've only read the 3 books of LOTR. I did not read the Hobbit and other books and I have this question which has been troubling me for many many months now.

Why must the Dark Lord Sauron be represented by an Eye.. which looks like a light house? Why can't they make it like Frozen Throne in Warcraft? It is much more cooler. Why? The eye seems to be a bit weak and, just weird. If they change it and put the EYE as a throne where Sauron was resting, I think it'll be very nice.

Because Sauron doesn't have enough power to break free from the throne, he was forced to be on the throne or something.

So what do you think?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 95/100. CinderInMySoul (4337)   ranked 163 out of 385 in the lord of the rings   4 years ago

Eye of Sauron makes sense with the story. since Sauron could "see" things when his globe thingy was uncovered, etc. how would that have worked if it was the Throne of Sauron?

by using the Eye..it also implied that Sauron had an awareness of how his armies were amassing, and what the good guys were trying to do. it enabled the author to give the whole story as sense of foreboding because "evil" was watching, preparing itself.


myLot reputation of 92/100. daydreamer20 (766)   ranked 32 out of 385 in the lord of the rings  4 years ago

mmm, I know the reasoning behind that it's because the author put it that way. My question was more like...why not others. Looks cooler. How his armies were amassing? Saruman has those crows, maybe he can too. Somehow the eye just looks a bit weird. :P Just my opinion.

No bad intention :D


myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 3 out of 385 in the lord of the rings  4 years ago

Sauromon didn't have the crows on his own, they were actually allied with Mordor during the first war of the ring so really Sauron did indeed have use of crows as spies. Thus crows are bad luck in Middle earth, Raven's on the other hand have always been friends of Dwarves (irrelevant, but needed to flex my geek muscles).


myLot reputation of 92/100. daydreamer20 (766)   ranked 32 out of 385 in the lord of the rings  4 years ago

Whoa, I didn't know about that seriously. I've always thought crows belonged to Saruman. :P But it does make sense that Sauron is the one owning them, not Saruman.

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2. myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 3 out of 385 in the lord of the rings   4 years ago

Simple, the eye of Sauron is the all seeing eye, you can't exaclty have the all seeing throne, it makes no sense. Why would they copy Warcraft when creating a movie based on THE fantasy book. I mean really Warcraft and any other serious fantasy based thing (game book movie) owes its popularity to Lord of the Rings, not the other way around.

Besides Sauron in the book isn't really an eye on a tower such as the movie portrayed but rather a disembodied soul of pure power, and the eye was a force that some could feel moving across the land keeping all of Mordor under his watchful gaze. When Sauron was overthrown the first time and Elendil cut the ring from his hand Sauron lost much of his power and actually his physical form, in order to gain back a physical form he needs the power of the ring back. Sauron trapped in a throne doesn't work either, because Sauron is also the Necromancer from the Hobbit (and is mentioned in the LoTR's as well) and was forced to flee from Mirkwood by the Wizards Council. A creature frozen in a throne could hardly uproot from Mordor to Mirkwood and back to Mordor.


myLot reputation of 92/100. daydreamer20 (766)   ranked 32 out of 385 in the lord of the rings  4 years ago

Thanks for the explanation. LOTR is indeed THE fantasy book since most of other fantasy book authors somehow 'refer' to LOTR. You can actually see there are some similar things here and there.

The Throne thing is just an idea which came to my mind. Hahhaha. I'm not an expert in LOTR stories, that's why i posted up this discussion.

Now that you've explained to me, it does make sense. I think the movie didn't really portray the all-seeing eye well. The tower part is ....weird. But the part where Sauron saw Frodo (when the latter wears the ring), is nicely done. That shows how powerful Sauron is. :D


myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 3 out of 385 in the lord of the rings  4 years ago

At first I thought the tower was a little cheesy as well, but the more I thought about it the more I realized that really it was the only way to really portray it. How else can you portray a disembodied soul searching from his tower for a ring and keeping an eye on his troops? And in the books Sauron's keep was the tower Barad-dûr. Barad-dûr might be one of the two towers from which the book gets its name depending on who you ask.

Even Tolkien seems unsure of it since he has been quoted as saying the two towers are Minas Morgul and Orthanc and also in another instance as Orthanc and the Tower of Cirith Ungol. In the movies Peter Jackson took some liberties and implied the two towers were the alliance between Sauroman's Orthanc and Sauron's Barad-dur. Personally I think the towers of Minus Tirith and Barad-dur makes the most sense since those are the bases of the two opposing forces.

Sorry for the geekspaination, I tend to ramble on a bit too much when discussing Lord of the Rings. I've read them way too many times.


myLot reputation of 92/100. daydreamer20 (766)   ranked 32 out of 385 in the lord of the rings  4 years ago

Whoa, you are indeed a true LOTR fan! Thanks for the heads up. Are those covered in the 3 LOTR books or it's from books such as The Hobbit? I'm a big fan of fantasy stuff. :D Inspired to create a world like those professionals did. Hahhaa. Just a dream anyway.


myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 3 out of 385 in the lord of the rings  4 years ago

Yes that is all from the LoTR. If you liked LoTR I'd highly recommend The Hobbit, it gives alot of the backstory on Bilbo and the finding of the Ring.

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3. myLot reputation of 81/100. zalilame (743)   4 years ago

For me the answer is so simple. Because Aye of Sauron worth million of dollars while the other names are so cheap. Sorry, just kidding. I think the name gives you the sense of powerful evil that can see everything using that eyeball. Maybe. Who knows what the writer was thinking about.

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4. myLot reputation of 94/100. SketcherD (382)   4 years ago

I think they used the 'Eye' to make you perhaps think of being watched as we maybe are watched by God??? Maybe anyway that is what I always have interrpreted it as.


myLot reputation of 92/100. daydreamer20 (766)   ranked 32 out of 385 in the lord of the rings  4 years ago

I think the explanation before this is quite logical. The all seeing eye of sauron, to be able to observe the land under his control. Quite logical indeed. :D :D But the lighthouse-like tower in the movie is still a bit weird for me. Hahhaa


myLot reputation of 94/100. SketcherD (382)  4 years ago

Yes the tower was quite the thing. I think that was just a show of power too though. The fire around it as well. All trying to promote the power idea.


myLot reputation of 92/100. daydreamer20 (766)   ranked 32 out of 385 in the lord of the rings  4 years ago

Somehow I feel the place where the leader of the Nazghul resides looks more badass than Sauron's. I don't think those 2 are the same place right? One is Minas Tirith, the other...Mordor? =_= Can't seem to remember the names.


myLot reputation of 94/100. SketcherD (382)  4 years ago

I never got the names right. My kids are always correcting me so I can't help. LOL


myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 3 out of 385 in the lord of the rings  4 years ago

The Nazgul reside primarily in Minas Mogul which used to be Minas Illith the twin to Minas Tirith is the the city of the Men of Gondor, Minas Tirith used to be called Minas Anor.

Minas Illith was the Tower of the Moon, Minas Anor was the Tower of the Sun they were twin towers during Gondor's heights before Sauron perverted the nine rings of man making the ring bearers his ring wraiths. The Lord of Minas Illith was a bearer of one of the rings of Man and became the Witch King of Agmar or the Lord of the Nazgul and continues to reside in Minas Mogul (the Tower of Black Magic).

Sauron lives on Mount doom in the Black Tower. Not much description of the black tower exists in the books, but the volcano itself is part of Sauron's castle, so sure the black tower isn't all that forboding, but add to it an evil volcano and you have one hell of a lair of evil.

Ok thinking I need to lay off the LoTR's for a while I am too geeky for my own good.


myLot reputation of 92/100. daydreamer20 (766)   ranked 32 out of 385 in the lord of the rings  4 years ago

O_O I think you deserve rank 1 for LOTR in myLot O_O


myLot reputation of 94/100. SketcherD (382)  4 years ago

No kidding. Wow that was a lot of information!!


myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 3 out of 385 in the lord of the rings  4 years ago

What can I say, I've read the series a few times.


myLot reputation of 94/100. SketcherD (382)  4 years ago

I can not read the books. They are just not the style of writing I like to read. However I have really enjoyed the movies and the PC games (ya I know I'm a geek). I know the movies probably as good as the books.


myLot reputation of 92/100. daydreamer20 (766)   ranked 32 out of 385 in the lord of the rings  4 years ago

The books are nice, but the level of English used is a little bit above my level. That's why the content does sound a little bit confusing from time to time. Hahhaa. Interesting information! We have one LOTR guru here. :)

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5. uncertainty (21)   ranked 289 out of 385 in the lord of the rings   4 years ago

Because the eye signifies supremacy! XD

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