Where is the hint regarding the rise of an Anti-Christ in Ezekiel 28?  | | | |  The Bible is full of contradictions. Reading it, I had the chance to discover something that created some confusions. The section I want to bring up is Ezekiel 28, 11-19
Although many writters claim that this segment of Ezekiel's prophecy is reffering to the "fall of Satan" or to the alleged rise of an "Anti-Christ", in point of fact such claims have no Biblical foundation and are only meant in order to harmonize the Genesis record with the secular geology.
Ezekiel 28, 12 - "Son of man, take up a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say to him, Thus says the Lord God[Jehovah, in original Heb. text]?" Could a text be clearer?
The next fragment however reflects some contradiction.
Ezekiel 28, 15 - "You were blameless in your ways/From the day you were created/Until unrighteousnes was found in you" (New American Standard Bible). "You were perfect/from the day you were created/until evil got a shelter in you" (Hebrew Bible". Might this reflect a mistranslation, to imply a meaning or to harmonize the tradition with the text? If we were perfect/from the day we were born - then where is the original sin?Before commenting, please read all the text of Ezekiel 27, 28. Then please response.
My oppinion on this is that some scholars tried to offer this text illusory meanings that have their bases in neither history, in neither religion, etc. There is no hint in Ezekiel regarding the "fall of Satan" and/or the projected rise of a sinister "Anti-Christ" who ushers in the concluding epoch of human history. What do you know about the fall of Satan and the rise of Anti-Christ? Please offer Biblical refferences, not answers learned by heart from various sources.
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| 1.  freethinkingagent (1056)
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4 years ago
| |  Well first off you quote the Hebrew but you do not know Hebrew. The word in Hebrew that is translated "king" is Melek (Meh'-lek) and while this can be translated as king, it is actually the singular noun for Angel. It has also been wrongly translated as prince in some verse. It was deliberately mistranslated for reasons we will not get in to, much as any deliberate mistranslations in the bible. So the prophecy is addressed to the Angel of Tyrus (Hebrew -tsor- 'tsore).
This can only be Satan, Lucifer or what ever name you give him, because at this time no man had been in Eden, the garden of God. And he as you read is a created being, not born, Only Adam, Eve and the first men were created, everyone since then was born. So he is obviously 1, talking to an Angel who had been in the garden, who was created by God. Then he says the words "mimshach kruwb cakak nathan qodesh har", Anointed Cherub who I sat at the holy mountain. Obviously not a man. He was perfect in his creation until "evel (eh'-vel)" lawlessness was found in you.
So tell me why this is contradictory? How can this not be Lucifer?
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 Khayam (205)
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4 years ago
| | In Psalms 68:24 El Melek (Meh'lek) is translated KING. Why it would be translated Angel in Ezekiel 28? Since Meh'lek from Pslams 68:24 is a reference to God (which can't be an Angel), therefore you have to use the same system of reference in Ezekiel 28.
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| freethinkingagent (1056)
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4 years ago
| | El Malek, would be translated as "the angel of El, or God, many times in the bible where it would appear as if there were more than one God, it was deliberately mistranslated by later scholars so that polytheism would not seem to be in the texts. It was meant to "protect God". there were other instances when the four letter name of god appeared in the same text and seemed to be talking to themselves, so later in the Aramaic versions, the second YHVH was changed to the "Memra" or word of God. | | | | | | | Air Conditioning Repair Affordable Air Conditioning Service & Repair www.theplumbingdoctoronline.com | add comment | | | |
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