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myLot reputation of 88/100. MrsAdvice (389) 6 years ago

I am finally getting around to telling you all about something that happened to a friend and I when we were 15 or 16 years old. My real name is Tonya and her name is Sonya. I am telling you this because it is relevant to the event. To set the scene, I was living with my parents and sister and the ghost of my deceased grandfather. We had come to accept the fact that he was present as it was normal to hear him clumping up or down the stairs, for friends who were able to see spirits to see him sitting in his favorite chair, for the hands on the clock that used to be his to spin around and around, I had a radio and a record player that used to be his and if I changed the station on the radio he put it right back and if I put on a record he would only let it play if he liked it, otherwise he would lift the needle up off the record and it did not matter how much I tried, I could not get that record to play. One time I awoke in the night to the smell of a cigar and he was standing there holding my bedroom curtain up, looking out the window. (I could only see a general darker shadowy spot, but the curtain was suspended in the air so I could tell what I was seeing without actually seeing him) As soon as he was aware I was looking he immediately dropped the curtain and disappeared completely but the next morning I coul still smell his cigar. So, this is the reality I lived with. My friend, Sonya, who lived an hour away, had come to spend the night. The folks left us home alone and we were playing cards by candlelight at the dining room table. This is a long story, let me try to abbreviate. A voice, from the livingroom, evil enough to make hairs you didn't even know you had stand on end, "Tonya . . . come ere." We both get big eyes and look across the table at each other. I ask Sonya, "Wh - wh- what did that say?" She said it sounded like Tonya come here. I said, "That's what I thought it said, I was hoping it said Sonya come here." Well, it called me again and I crept toward the livingroom and felt an immense evil presence enveloping the room and so I reached toward the lightswitch on the outside of the room and turned it on. I felt the evil swoop down behind the couch, into the only dark place left. I guess that made the evil smaller, as it could no longer fill the room. I was terrified beyond belief and jumped and screemed when I felt a hand on my shoulder but it was only Sonya, having crept up behind me to have a look herself. At that moment a loud pipe organ began to play (what I later found out but did not know at the time was The Death March) a song. We screamed and clung to each other as the radio came on and the clock hands began to spin and I cannot say for sure what all happened because I really don't know if anything else did or not, all I remember is mom and dad pulling up and the garage door going up. I don't really know what else happened because Sonya would not discuss it at all. My dad had to take her home and we are no longer friends. It was midnight when the organ played and stuff and it took my dad til 1:00 AM to get her home and 2:00 AM to get back home so he was not thrilled. The story I have just related is true, if I had made it up, I oculd've made it a lot more interesting than that. Anyhow, from that moment on, grandpa's ghost was gone. What I do not know and would very much like to know is, did he try to take me to hell with him? (he was a bad man) or was his presence allowing evil spirits and he realized he had to leave to protect me? I don't think he wanted to protect me though. Anyhow, that is what happened. I hope you will leave a comment letting me know if you have any insight or opinion on what exactly happened. I feel as if the doorway to hell was open in the livingroom and if I would've stepped in there in the dark I would've been sent directly to hell. I would like to hear of your experiences with the ghost world if you have any.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 94/100. magikrose (4960)   6 years ago

What it sounds like to me is he was trying to protect you as long as he could but when he did leave is when the evil spirit came in. At that point your uncle thought you could handle it and possibly protect your self. Here is something you can do to prevent anything that is trying to hurt you into your home. Take some normal house hold salt(sea salt is better but house salt will work also) Sprinkle it under every entrance to your home including the windows while placing the salt you need to say a prayer. If you are christian the lords prayer will do just fine.

What this does is purifies your home and evil cannot enter.


myLot reputation of 88/100. MrsAdvice (389)  6 years ago

That was a long, long time ago, not in this house, in my parents house when I was a kid and it was my grandpa, not my uncle, and he was NOT a good man (He sexually abused and raped people) so I am not so sure about the protection. As far as the salt, I use white candles to remove evil spirits and it works great. We had a lot of them in this house here until I did the white candle ceremony and put them all out and erected a barrier so they cannot return. Now my daughter can be home alone without encountering them anymore. It scares her because she can physically SEE them with her eyes. I can't see them so much with my eyes, except a shadowy kinda thing, but she sees them as plain as day. I can hear them, but I pretend I can't so they won't bug me. lol. Anyhow thanks for the tips.

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2. myLot reputation of 66/100. wiccan (321)   6 years ago

My immediate reaction to this , and I have dealt with ghosts like this before, is that your Grandfather was an evil soul. He felt guilty when he passed and was frightened to cross over. He was NOT trying to protect you , but rather to use you as a shield to protect him. He is gone and will not return, you are safe from his presence. He was being pulled to the other side that night and was using you as an anchor to hold him here, failing that he wanted to hold you before him to deflect his deserts. Blessed Be........this world is a better place for his passing.......... get rid of the clock!


myLot reputation of 88/100. MrsAdvice (389)  6 years ago

I have chills . . . omg, you are so right. This question has been on my mind for so many years. Thank you. I cannot get rid of the clock, it belongs to my parents. It is in their house. Anyway, now that he is gone, the clock holds no power. Neither does the radio or record player. Thank you for your help.

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3. shyla25 (18)   6 years ago

I never had a ghostly experience but yes i do believe and have heard that there are good and bad souls.Good souls are those who die an unnatural death and live near their relatives to protect them.My fatherinlaw died young coz of blackmagic done due to property feud but my hubby still feels that he is around us and protects us from bad happenings.Similarly if you think that your grandfather was an evil soul it might be true that he was trying to harm you but thank god allz well.All i can say GOD IS GREAT, praise the Lord.

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4. myLot reputation of 93/100. baysmummy (1188)   6 years ago

wow, ok i sense that this man was not a nice man and that he was very controlling even when he was alive i sense that everything had to be done to how he liked it or else he wasnt happy at all. I may be way of the mark here but i feel that he was trying to latch onto you instead of crossing over and then that night that all this happened if your friend had no of came up behind you and grabbed your shoulder or tapped your shoulder that you would of been sucked in with him and thats how he wanted it that when he would leave that you would go to, So i honestly feel that your friend saved you.

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5. myLot reputation of 91/100. flowerchilde (8044)   6 years ago

hi, Mrs Advice! Partly due to some of your discussions, I've learned a whole new thing... For a long time I've wondered about ghosts.. and have been puzzled as to what they are, and thought they were demons, a.k. fallen angels. But now I think I've finally realized that "hades" or "the realm of the dead" as the new testament puts it, is a sort of dream state. So when a ghost visits us, it's only a part of them. That's why they seem so 'not all there'. I feel this is (finally) the truth, because the bible says when we die we don't keep walking around, but we go to the grave.. I'm also remembering how the prophet Samuel (I think it was) was summoned after death by a wizard, or so, and he was sort of angry saying "why did you wake me?"

Even though your grandfather was a bad guy, I think it's possible he has stayed away because, yes, one of his demons (which worked so hard to influence him during his life) was so strong there in the room at his visit you wrote about. Either that or a protective angel or the Lord, has forbid it to happen again. There was something unresolved in your grandfather's mind, concerning you...? And of course the entity with him that night, did want to hurt you.

I believe that the word "hell" in the bible is a mistranlation, which should read "the grave". I believe there are two resurrections, the one at the 'last' day when the Lord returns to planet earth, of those believing upon him, and then the second one, 1OOO years later of all the rest of humanity, followed by a long day of examination, called 'judgement' where all history and the lives of all will be examined, by all, as to what went right and what went wrong, of course this will be a very long (long) 'day' - and after that, who will not believe? And therefore I strongly believe in a best case scenario, concerning 'heaven and hell' - after all God can only be life itself, the life force and source, etc, and to remain aLive/Living, he can only be Excellent.. and Perfect, and therefore all this can only end, Perfectly! As the absolute, best case scenario, which in no way can include "hell" nor His loss of millions of souls... [I learned these things after my son, 16 at the time, asked me two questions..]

But I do believe the entity/demon which accompanied your grandfather that day, was there to harm you, as they do only go about trying to "rob, kill and destroy" as the Lord said...

Peace and blessings! And continued protection!


myLot reputation of 91/100. flowerchilde (8044)  6 years ago

- P.S. - so in a real sense, it was still very much a door to hell..


myLot reputation of 88/100. MrsAdvice (389)  6 years ago

Hi Flower, It seems to me that you have adapted some of the Jehovah's Witness beliefs in that hell is just the common grave, and the 1000 years thing, am I right? I believe some of what they believe also, still deciding on a lot of stuff. Your contribution is interesting and yes, there is unfinished business between my grandfather and I. He has a lot to be confronted about if I ever see him again. I am most interested in knowing what the two questions were that your son asked you, if you are willing to share. There was most definately an evil entity inside my grandfather in his life. He was a professed christian, but he did some very bad things. I am intrigued by your bible stories proving the existance of ghosts, more or less, as my hubby, an ex JW, still believes all JW teachings, even though he is non-practicing, insists there are no such thing despite having lived here, in this house which has also had plenty of spririt activity up until I performed the white candle ceremony. I would like to read more about the prophet summoned after death if you know where it is in the bible. I believe the demon meant to destroy me. I had never felt such evil, my hair was standing up on my whole body in places I didn't even know I had hair! If my bones had hair, it would've been standing up too.


myLot reputation of 91/100. flowerchilde (8044)  6 years ago

Hi, Mrs. Advice :))

I guess I do agree with the JW's on some things, but disagree on others, especially they seem so exclusive, in that they're right and everyone else is wrong, but I guess that's not unusual! I'm kind of a blend.. protestant, and catholic, Judeo, and mystic.. The prophet being woke up from death, is in 1 Samuel 28:about 5-15. Reading it, sounds like evil entities were surrounding Saul, who wanted to talk to Samuel about it.. The questions my son asked me were: (He was feeling a bit bitter, at such a young age, 16! Now he's 26! He sid "Why was the tree of knowing good and evil in the garden? and - Isn't it nice we get to be an ant farm? I answered him, but wasn't very satisfied about my answers, so started seeking the answers, and what I learned reaLLy made an impression on me. And reaLLy cheered me up about life, and having been a free believer (no church:) for almost 20 years, I wasn't all that bummed out to start with. What I realized is that God iS Life. The life force and source, who else? "In the beginning God." - And he is also Perfection. God had two choices, he could have stuck with plants and animals and worlds.. and never made rational beings.. or he could endow thinking ability, which becomes the ability to choose (which he did endow thinking ability to angel and man). Now of course God knew, as soon as he did that, well, a whole new world (or tree) of possibilities would 'come to be' - and of course God being Perfect, can only be honest and true, so there was that tree in the original garden of life, as it was now a part of, life. Of course God knew that surely somewhere, sometime, someone was bound to think "do we really have to do everything God's way?" But as soon one chooses something other than God chooses, they beging to travel away from Perfection/Life/God. But this journey through imPerfection is unavoidable, if there is to be rationality. And if you're gonna have 'free-will' you have to let it run its course or it's not 'free-will'. Because of this (free-will, thinking ability) we all suffer some, and some way terribly. But, God being Life, lives through, suffers and experiences all sufferings and indignations which occur! WHY would he put himself through all this?? Because he's not making robots, or an ant farm! But a family! And an eternal UNbreakable paradise.. for all will fully understand "good from evil". I later found out "why did God wait such a long time, before creating the universe and man and woman? Creating them not only after that first bound-to-occur rebel thought occured, as it did in Lucifer, but waited til it fully matured into outright revolt and deceptive trickery." He waited, so that all (men and angels) would take this unavoidable journey all together, once and for all 'time'. Otherwise each person and angel would take the journey through imPerfection all in their own time, and it could go on infinitley! I'm thinkin' what a clue to God's very patient nature, that he waited so very long. For when there was 'only' the Father, the Son and the angels, I'm thing there wasn't all that much to go astray about! So I'm thinking He waited an infinitely long time.. Because he's creating the best. Being Perfect, and all powerful and all good, he has done all things in order to bring about, not just a good end result (of all this) but the very BEST end result! [Any religious doctrine that does not reflect 1-God's Perfection, 2-God's goodness, is not a true doctrine. It's impossible.] Just recently I realized, that God being Life, the force, or life force - in order to remain aLive, Living, He, Life, can only be excellent.. Therefore it is impossible for the end result to be less than utter Perfection. I know I'm writing a lot, but there's something I'm forgetting.. besides the idea that God is not going to lose millions of souls.. impossible. Oh yes, once one becomes imPerfect, and is traveling away from Perfection/Life, one cannot reverse their journey and travel back to perfection, for they are imperfect. And so the Father sent the Son, to check that journey away from life. [And he designed this "from the beginning".] I believe, thru the bible, that 'judgement' day (or examination day, of examining all history and all lives, as to what went wrong, etc) will last 5OO years - all will be there. And after 5OO years, who will not believe? And that's all Christ ever said, "those which believe.." Anyway, to cut this babbling short, I like knowing as I live in this world, and watch the news, etc. that the end result cannot possibly be anything less than perfect and the best outcome possible. Besides being fully convinced of what a good guy, God is.


myLot reputation of 88/100. MrsAdvice (389)  5 years ago

Free will - think about it. If you had a love potion and a guy worshipped and adored you and loved you so much how happy would you be? Wouldn't you wonder if it were not for the love potion would he really feel that way? Oh yes. Maybe you would enjoy it for a month or two, but then you would just go nuts. The question would drive you insane. You might remove the potion to see if he really loves you. That is how I think of free will. and Jesus dying and returning kinda speaks for reincarnation. Not millions of souls. If everyone who ever died throughout history from cavemen to the future were to all be here in the end that is too many, so we are the same soul, over and over, evolving, improving, working on ourselves, but it is a smaller group of us than we think. We are always given the opportunity to come back and try again. We choose the circumstances and set ourselves up for the lessons we must learn before we come here each time. I am giving you best response, sorry it took me so long to get around to it, but you have contributed the most to this discussion, hands down!

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6. myLot reputation of 82/100. dixielol (1147)   6 years ago

Hey, my name is Sonya! My sis says that she seen my dad after he died. She was in the bathroom, which was between my bedroom & hers putting some towls up. My mom was in the living room asleep on the couch. I was outside playing basketball. The bathroom window was open. I heard her say something then a few min later she screamed. I went in to see what was wrong with her & she said that she had seen my dad. She was verry close to him but I was not. (he wasnt a good person either. He was on drugs bad, & use to fight with my mom all the time. They had divorced a few years befor he died.) He stold our money that my mamaw & aunts gave me and my sis when we was little. Could that be why I never seen him? Because I didnt like him but she was close to him.


myLot reputation of 88/100. MrsAdvice (389)  6 years ago

Hi Sonya, I think some people can see them and some can't, although all have the ability, so it's really more like some can and some won't or don't. We all have different levels of abilities, but the gift is there for us, if we believe it, and sometimes even if we don't believe. The non-believers will try to pass it off as something else though, usually. Also, a spirit chooses who to reveal themselves to and who not to sometimes and as you said, he was closer to your sister than to you, so that would explain that. So, the talking must be that she didn't realize it was him at first, and the scream when she recognized him and remembered he was dead? I just wondered why she first talked and then screamed.

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7. myLot reputation of 95/100. scooter1024 (794)   6 years ago

This is amazing. I have never heard anything quite like it. I know things like this can happen but I just never heard about it. I do know a girl that seems to have spirits follow her. Every place she lived she would have some kind of occurance.

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8. myLot reputation of 54/100. dnatureofdtrain (4145)   6 years ago

Hmm.. Why does this sound familar.. Have we spoke before on another forum?... First off I see Grandpa as was protecting you, and not as taking you with the evil Spirits. Grandpa may not have been very nice while on earth but seems to have changed his ways.... And well you would not have been sent to hell, neither they, as they are not lost. Hell is just for lost fragments and where negativity feeds itself... It is not the same way as many think of it. I like to call it the cave of Lost souls.... You are perfectly safe, and fine, and Grandpa was just trying to help. He is around often in Spirit but he knows you fear him... So he usually does not allow you to see him around, unless he was trying to alert you to something. Which in this case he was... take care
- DNatureofDTrain


myLot reputation of 88/100. MrsAdvice (389)  6 years ago

I have shared this experience on other forums. I don't think he is still around, as prior to that time there were signs of his presence and since that time there are none. He was a very bad and evil man. I don't think, considering what he did to me and other females on this earth, that he is still around. In fact, a new baby was born in our family and given his name and it is content when anyone holds it except me, and then it cries so I think it is him, reincarnated. Thanks for your opinion, though.

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9. myLot reputation of 90/100. eternalskyes (231)   6 years ago

I have had an experience with my deceased grandfather as well. He died b4 my mother ever met my father, but i have seen many pictures of him. My mom says im just like him. In fact here is something funny, He was born September 5th, died September 4th, and I was born September 6th, but the kicker is that i was due August 12th! Anyways, I had a picture of my grandfather on my nightstand and in the morning i awoke to the chair in my room just rocking away! it was quite freaky..and then i started to smell the hint of a cigar, and NO ONE in my family smoked, i hadnt even started smokin cigs at the time. I mean no smoked, lol. And my grandfather smoked a certian brand of cigars, and i was the only one still asleep and I got freaked out, cause i saw the outline and image of my deceased grandfather in the chair in my room and just rocking away. My mom burst in the room and said no its not possible, and at the time i didnt know about the cigars, and my mom said the smell its your grandfather!!!! He knows you sleeping too late... LMAO... my g-father was not fond of late risers....I will never forget that early morning....I have never met him, but it makes me want ot met him, i see his shadow in the corner of my eye, he is always with me :O)

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