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myLot reputation of 94/100. jerzgirl (3245)   ranked 476 out of 19,197 in relationships 3 years ago

I put this under relationships because all regular interactions are in their own ways relationships.

As many of you might know, I lived with my mother for more than a year as her caretaker. I moved back into my apartment at the end of January. While I was gone, a former neighbor from the house next door moved into the unit under mine. From day one, she started complaining whenever my daughter had guests and would follow my daughter whenever she went downstairs to do laundry. She had no problem having regular get-togethers of her family and friends, but my daughter seemed to be forbidden to have a life. She would even have HER mother call me at MY mother's house to complain about it (I still owe a kick in the slats to whoever gave them MY mother's number). It didn't matter how early it was, my daughter having company was a problem for her. After I moved back, I was in the basement with the landlady who was showing me where I could store my stuff. She wouldn't even let us in the basement until we told her who we were, despite the fact that she doesn't rent the basement and that's where the laundry is. She sat on the stairs listening to every word we said and commenting when she felt she could, despite it being a private conversation. My landlady made it clear that the basement was for both units and that I could store some of my inherited items there. She is the landlady's niece. Her grandmother and other aunt are co-owners as well. Well, when she learned that I had a key to the basement (as is my right as a tenant here), SHE changed the locks and for over a month has refused to give anyone a key to the basement. She claims I cannot store my things down there because she's afraid 1)someone might steal her items, 2) storing my stuff would create a liability to the landlords for insurance purposes (despite the basement being lined with her things she was storing). She told my landlady (who lives next door) that she didn't want anyone down there, that she wanted the basement to herself. She kept promising to give a key to them, but to date never has.

Today, I could hear yelling and tracked the voices to the landlady's husband yelling at this girl's live-in boyfriend (who isn't on the lease) about having the basement door locked and still having their lock on the door in violation of the lease. They were yelling at each other with boyfriend stating "this is unacceptable", "I am a good tenant" (wrong, hun - you're not on the lease), "I've done nothing illegal" (wrong again - you violated the lease by keeping other tenants from doing laundry and accessing their circuit breakers). The landlord's husband, meanwhile, was growing angrier by the minute and was using more and more vile language, his face was purple, and he was telling this boyfriend what part of him he could kiss. Boyfriend followed him home next door, refusing to take "no" for an answer. surrender

I was worried because the husband has had bypass surgery twice - once around 15 years ago and again three years ago. She, the little witch downstairs, thinks because she's family, she has carte blanche and can do anything without anyone saying anything. When she lived next door, another rental owned by the three sisters, she filed complaints against literally ever single tenant who lived there while she did. She called the police constantly, woke people up during the night with her complaining, got people evicted, and apparently felt that surge of power that effective nagging can give you when others buy into it. Well, I haven't bought into it and I've done nothing wrong and neither has my daughter.

I know when she gets home from work, the fecal matter is going to hit the fan. I've already told my landlady's husband that if she continued to attack me and my daughter, I would file harassment charges against her. She locked my emergency exit so I can't use it because she wants the space behind it for storage. That's an exit the city knows about. Yet, she is afraid I might steal something of her precious belongings. Never mind that I've lived here for over seven years and have yet, before her, to have anyone complain about anything missing from their property. The tenant immediately preceding her even left the downstairs door open in the emergency exit to make sure I had no obstruction in case I needed to get out. Not once did I ever go into the stairs or into their house - I had no need to. This one, however, treats me like a common thief - despite the fact that she has one uncle who is in and out of prison for theft, a cousin recently arrested for attempted murder, another cousin in and out of jail for illegal behaviors of one sort or another. I'm the potential criminal even as her family is FULL of them!! whistle

I'm not leaving - I've been here since September 2001 and I plan to stay. My guy friend is my landlady's son. I like being next door to him. I don't like HER being under me. SHE is in violation of the lease - SHE needs to go! angry

Anyway, I needed to vent. Have you ever had to deal with a neighbor from hell? What did they do? What did YOU do?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 90/100. kris182_2000 (2720)   ranked 1,031 out of 19,197 in relationships   3 years ago

My God that's a disaster. I've never had it that bad, but I've had some rough relationships with landlords and tenants.

I remember I lived in a basement apartment that wasn't legal at all, it flooded in the spring, and was freezing. The furnace didn't work right, and the tenants above were a nightmare. The guy above me would come home at 2 in the morning and blast his stereo.

When the emergency exit was locked, the landlord claimed he didn't want anyone going through the house that didn't live upstairs. But in the winter I couldn't get out of my apartment with snow piled up against the door.

I lived in another apartment(basement) in the middle of gang wars. 2 guys got shot outside my home, and another got stabbed up the street. The neighbours were drug dealers, would sit outside in the summer slapping dominoes around and smoking drugs. They even had a block party one Sunday night and disturbed the entire neighbourhood. It took 2 calls to the police to get them to break the party up. They threatened us when we moved to watch our backs since we'd called the police on them.

I lived in a house a couple of years ago, the neighbours again were a nightmare. The guy would bang on the drums all day long on the weekend, and you could hear it throughout the house. His wife set our fence on fire one morning and tried to blame us for it, when we had nothing to do with it. When I heard what she'd said one day about it, I said we weren't going to pay for the damage. Unfortunately nothing ever happened to her.

Now we live in yet another freezing basement apartment, we worry about sewage backing up, which it has done once, but the landlord doesn't care. The ceiling is falling apart, and the toilet rarely works properly. He doesn't want the cat anywhere in the house although he agreed to it when we moved in over a year ago.

We're not allowed to use the backyard, lucky to get laundry once a week, and disturbed constantly by them crashing around upstairs.

But, we're moving finally, it only took a former tenant assaulting me and being thrown out to realize that we can't afford the place anymore. So we're moving to a recently renovated basement apartment, that is warm and dry, with no problems that I can see. We'll have use of the backyard, free satellite and internet, and will have a good relationship with the owners of the house, we hit it off quite nicely last night when we went to see the apartment.

I'm sure this will be better than anything else I've had to deal with. So I know in a way what you're going through even though I haven't had it so bad.


Stand up for your rights though, that's what's important. And if all else fails, leave there and someone else will deal with them.


myLot reputation of 95/100. cream97 (22359)   ranked 337 out of 19,197 in relationships  3 years ago

Yeah, the next tenant that decides to stay there after jerzgirl, will give that landlord so much of hell, that it will spend her nerves running! I would just move out and let the next tenant be her problem..sadangry

 
 
2. myLot reputation of 94/100. SuzyQ12 (1893)   3 years ago

I used to have a neighbor that was always complaining.
She thought she knew everything about everything. It just
drove me crazy. we had some holes in the yard and she called
the cops on us. Ha They came out, and told her it was our property
and couldn't make us do anything. Years later she passed away.

 
 
3. myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24676)   3 years ago

for about a year the people across the street (not the current ones, but the ones before them) were always outside playing rude, crude rap music with no consideration of anyone else - so loud I couldn't hear my TV in MY house with the windows closed

the crazy neighbor finally got them evicted (this was 15 years ago before she was so crazy)

we were calling the cops all the time because of noise violation and people behaving badly - including running across the street with only a towel around their waist.....

 
 
4. myLot reputation of 84/100. sparkofinsanity (3868)   ranked 503 out of 19,197 in relationships   3 years ago

Have you researched city bylaws about this? And also the Landlord and Tenant Act?
Next time there's a problem file a complaint against her with the police. And keep doing it until you have enough to charge her with harrassment and tenancy violations. Then take her to Judge Judy and get her a*s whipped!


myLot reputation of 94/100. jerzgirl (3245)   ranked 476 out of 19,197 in relationships  3 years ago

I genuinely like my one landlady. I don't want her getting in trouble. I don't want to get her in trouble just because she has a problematic niece whose grandmother (another property owner) sees fit to not step in. I try to encourage HER to do it, which is within HER authority as a landlord and her niece, being a tenant, MUST comply with the lease. She brought in the building inspector who told the niece that she was in violation of city codes by blocking my emergency exit by using it as storage (it's FULL of her stuff). She now thinks I called them and is looking for something to report me for. She's apparently unable to put the fact in place that her is a city clerk and works WITH the building inspector. doh

I don't think she's ever been told she was wrong in her life.

 
 
5. myLot reputation of 99/100. Opal26 (14496)   ranked 3,375 out of 19,197 in relationships   3 years ago

Hey Jerz! What a phucking mess! I did get a bit confused with
who was who in all that familial stuff! I did get that everyone
is related, but not to you! I sure hope they throw that pain
in the azz out! How crazy is that! Why do they put up with
her? Don't tell me! Because she is family? I have had problems
with a neighbor from hell, but I live in a big apartment complex
where no one is related! And thank the Lord for that! But, I
still have this miserable beotch who has been causing trouble
for 28 phucking years and has made quite a few tenants move out
so they wouldn't kill her! I think they should have just killed
her, but none of them wanted to go to jail, including me! That is
the only reason she is still breathing! The Landlord knows she is
a big problem, but with the legal crap and she pays her rent it
isn't easy to get the beotch out! So she is still here wrecking
havoc on everyone! I hope your problem gets settled alot sooner
then mine!


myLot reputation of 94/100. jerzgirl (3245)   ranked 476 out of 19,197 in relationships  3 years ago

Three sisters inherited three houses when their father died. Because they were all afraid that each house wasn't worth the same as the other that they might be cheated by splitting the homes amongst them, they formed a partnership and are renting all three. The unit I'm in existed before he died and it was he who said I could live here. But, he died before I could move in. I had already been going around with the son of one of those sisters, who do NOTHING except come around monthly to collect their share of the rent (not counting Tom's mother who they allow to do all the work since she lives next door and her husband who does the maintenance). This girl is the granddaughter of one of those sisters. The landlady I refer to is her aunt.

If this one doesn't stop, I'm seriously considering a charge of harassment against her. She's now fired up because the building inspector told her she was in violation of codes for blocking my emergency exit by using it for storage. Never addressed the lock on the top door - but she had all the stairs blocked anyway with more stuff she didn't fill the basement with. Now she's looking for things to report me for - and I never even reported her. I don't know why the building inspector was there, other than her aunt, the landlady who lives next door, is a city clerk and works WITH the building inspector!! Hello??? doh

 
 
6. myLot reputation of 89/100. dropofrain (1130)   ranked 6,161 out of 19,197 in relationships   3 years ago

I think it is really important to make good relations with the landlord, tenants etc as your home is really important thing in your life. To be comfortable at the place you live it is really important to keep others nearby you in good and happy state. It makes life easier for you.

 
 
7. myLot reputation of 53/100. jhonymax2cool (364)   3 years ago

hey i had some tenants too but its agood thing that all of them were really good ones and now they r like family even now they visit us .

 
 
8. loneydessert (17)   3 years ago

Are best able to vent.
I have never experienced such a situation.However,there is to see that happen around those trouble.I can understand you feeling.Please relax.

 
 
9. myLot reputation of 95/100. cream97 (22359)   ranked 337 out of 19,197 in relationships   3 years ago

Hi, jerzgirl. Could it be that being that you have a relationship with the landlord's son maybe that is why the landlady is treating you this way. It sounds like she is just jealous. You may need to take this to civil court and battle it out in front of the judge. In the meantime, relax and try to keep things cool. I know that you don't want to move out, but you may need to. This woman is giving you hell, I know!! Why won't she let you store some of yoir things in the storage?? If I was you, I would take her to court. If your storage is included with the rent, then you should be able to put your things in the storage, you have every right to. If, not then rent a storage from a storage company monthly, if possible. I hate going through issues with the landlord. My family and I have been evicted 3 times, and almost four times... It was very crazy!!! So, I know what it feels like to deal with a landlord that gives you grief! I am sorry that this is going on, I hope that you can live in peace, away from thie witch! You may have to take this to court, just keep this in mind. If you still have no rest, just move out. I would rather be gone, than to stress myself out any longer with a nasty landlord. Maybe you and your guy friend can get a place together, away from his aggravating mother! Take care!wink


myLot reputation of 94/100. jerzgirl (3245)   ranked 476 out of 19,197 in relationships  3 years ago

She yelled at the landlady's son saying he was defending me only because he went around with me. Actually, she was more graphic than that, but she doesn't have any room to talk...I don't know of a guy she's dated that she hasn't slept with and the current one, "Mr. Personality" called the landlords "liars" on Friday, which is what started the argument. Then HE said he was offended by the language my landlord used??? Give me a flippin' break!! My daughter took them mail that was put in our box by mistake and he told her to next time put it in the mailbox instead of disturbing him. No thank you of any kind - just a reprimand for a good deed. He's a piece of work, but my guy gets berated because he took MY side. Yeah - she's such a vision of loveliness.

 
 
10. myLot reputation of 99/100. cynthiann (5234)   ranked 564 out of 19,197 in relationships   3 years ago

This is the most awful mess that I have read in a long time. I hope that you felt beter after venting. I cannot tell you what to do but I know that I don't think that I could cope with any of this stuff that is being thrown at you.

I am so sorry and can only offer my sympathy - no advice - as I would not know what to do. Hang in htere.


myLot reputation of 94/100. jerzgirl (3245)   ranked 476 out of 19,197 in relationships  3 years ago

I'm being pulled in a 360 degree circle by all the things going on right now, so each one of them tends to push the max stress buttons big time. Building inspector apparently laid down the law about her using MY emergency exit as storage and she's ready for bear now, so she's going to find whatever she can about me to report. I had nothing to do with the building inspector, but I'm to blame because she's NEVER wrong and how dare anyone say she's wrong. She's a prime example of an over-indulged child who's never been told they're wrong and who's been allowed to always do what they wanted. Some parent-figure has been long overdue in disciplining her. If she pushes, she'll wind up in court as a defendant.

 
 
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