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myLot reputation of 93/100. Colmuc (377)   ranked 278 out of 19,084 in questions & answers9 months ago

The English Language that I was taught in School is gradually changing through misuse by native English speakers, newspapers and magazines but I think mostly by the use of more American words and spelling.

For magazines the Readers Digest must be one of the worst. On almost every page you find a sentence beginning with "but" or "and". This would have brought severe punishment if I had done that in school.

In my business travels I had more problems with English in America than any other country. Trying to avoid Scottish words and speak clearly did not help much.
So many words have different meanings. Many years ago I had a relationship with a beautiful American lady. We had many language difficulties and some really funny experiences through using words which meant something different to the other person.
She promised me a good breakfast with biscuits. The "biscuits" turned out to be scones, totally different to what I was expecting. Her chocolate chip "cookies" were in fact biscuits. Cookies for me should be puffy, soft and sometimes filled with cream. Although confused often by the names I did enjoy her cooking and tasted Pumpkin Pie and Corn Bread for the first time. I of course introduced her to Haggis, Steak Pie, and many of my Chinese and Indian specialities.

Now come the real embarrassing bits.
I took her to Scotland and within an hour of meeting my sister she said "Since I got to know your brother my fanny has got a lot bigger". Luckily I heard the comment and was able to quickly explain that she meant she had put some weight on her backside. In the UK a "fanny" is what is sometimes called a "p---y"!
So ladies, if somebody in the UK is patting your fanny they are getting really friendly.
In a shop in Glasgow I was looking for a jacket and trousers. I took two of each into a cubicle and tried on the jackets but was not sure and went out wearing one to let my friend see it. She agreed that it did not look good and just as I was re-entering the cubicle she shouted out so that everyone in the large shop heard "Did you try on the pants?". I could not get out the shop quickly enough.
In Scotland pants are what we wear under our trousers and not normally tried on before purchase!

We are still "good friends" and often laugh about our experiences.

Here in Germany the children are being taught American English in their school "English" classes. Tomato is pronounced "toe mate o" and not "toe matt o" as it should be. The word "often" is also mispronounced. The "T" should be silent like the "P" in bath.

Fine, if thats what the authorities want and parents accept it but at least call it "American".

Has anyone had similar experiences or have other examples to quote?

Should we try to fight it and continue to write centre, humour, criticise, familiarise etc. or should we just give in and admit defeat for the first time in the history of the British Empire?





 
 
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Phaedra_Scythe (1560) response was accepted on 4/6/2009.
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1. myLot reputation of 85/100. okkidokitokki (1387)   ranked 1,664 out of 19,084 in questions & answers   9 months ago

I like you explinations, it helps to understand what you mean because I am an American that does not get to travel much.

I think that we should just agree to call it a dialect of the English language.

Here in schools they teach Spanish, but it is Spain's Spanish and not Mexico's, this leads to the learning of a language that is quite different than the dialect spoken in Mexico. It is even more different than the dialect spoken in the border area in Texas. I listen to my native Spanish speaking friends talk about the differences and their stories are much like yours.


myLot reputation of 93/100. Colmuc (377)   ranked 278 out of 19,084 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Good example. Thank you.

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2. myLot reputation of 76/100. MYKLJ999_VERSION_2 (2981)   ranked 500 out of 19,084 in questions & answers   9 months ago

Don't you actually mean admit defeat for the second time?

After all, you did wind up with the short end of the stick in the American War for Independence, correct?


myLot reputation of 93/100. Colmuc (377)   ranked 278 out of 19,084 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Thanks for that. I am not sure we could call it a defeat, just a tactical
withdrawl. They left enough Brits to keep an eye on things.

Did you know your "Uncle Sam" was a Scot?
His parents emigrated from Greenock. He was born in Arlington
Mass. on 13th of September 1766 as Samuel Wilson.


myLot reputation of 76/100. MYKLJ999_VERSION_2 (2981)   ranked 500 out of 19,084 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Well, technically if he was born here, that would make him an American of Scottish ancestry... surrender

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. Phaedra_Scythe (1560)   ranked 568 out of 19,084 in questions & answers   9 months ago

I know what you mean, but language isn't a stable entity and it never has been. If you compare "English" from any era in history, it often barely resembles another version. Language evolves all the time with slang and dialects and cultures constantly mixing and growing. It's not something that can be halted, we just have to move with the times!

Something that does annoy me is laziness though. Text speak for example. There's no lyrical beauty to it and the English vocabulary is so rich and varied that people should experiment with it more and not just chop down words to the most basic form imaginable.

That's just my quirky ideals though. I love my language!


myLot reputation of 93/100. Colmuc (377)   ranked 278 out of 19,084 in questions & answers  9 months ago

Thank you. You are right every language changes and adapts over time but we are seeing so much misuse and destruction over so short a period.

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