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myLot reputation of 70/100. kassdaw (501)   ranked 1,779 out of 2,509 in debating 3 years ago

I don't mean the TV Show, I am talking about real physics and science. Does anyone care any more about this stuff. I am studying it for fun not for college or a career but because I need something to do when my son takes his naps.

Okay so let's get right into it. Inflationary Model or the Cyclic Model, which really does make more sense? Well, I see the Cyclic Model of the Big Bang making more sense, simply because the Inflationary Model has too many holes.

A few questions I have for everyone are as follows:
1. Does time have a beginning?
2. If so, was the first second after the big bang the beginning of time?
3. Is it possible the universe goes for ever and never stops?
4. If the cyclic model is accurate in the history of the universe and how it was formed are there other universes in which life can be sustained on a planet or multiple planets?

So, as some of you may have guessed, this is my attempt to get some real discussions going.

Happy Friday Night...

 

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1. myLot reputation of 72/100. matersfish (2666)   ranked 473 out of 2,509 in debating   3 years ago

Man's attempt to rationalize everything has generated far more questions than can possibly be answered. Cyclic, huh? How's this for irony: The more we know, the more we want to know -- thus continues the cycle.

Time, of course, is relative... well, as are all things ultimately. As we experience "time," that concept didn't and couldn't have existed in a universe without someone to box it in. The Earth's revolution around the Sun is constant. Man sees this, takes a measurement, and a year is born (and all that falls within). The planet, without people, just is. It does what it does with no sense of purposeful timing.

It's hard to comprehend something going on forever. We now know that our solar system is part of a galaxy and the billions of stars we see in the sky are only from the Milky Way. Who would have ever thought that? The further into space technology allows us to look, the larger it all seems. I would assume that it does go on "forever," simply because there would have to be a containing body to hold it if it did indeed stop, i.e. our planet in our galaxy (although it doesn't exactly 'stop').

I'm a firm believer that space is all there is. It doesn't need a rhyme or reason; it's just all there is.

As far as planets with life go -- I would guess that every solar system has a planet with some form of life or another. If I'm remembering right, we have, like, 100 billion stars just in our galaxy. That's theoretically 100 billion solar systems. That's hundreds of billions of planets. We could have hundreds of billions of Earth-like planets in immediate space. And that's not even taking into consideration all the other billions of galaxies with billions of stars and billions of solar systems and billions of planets.

If all we Earthlings had to do was find 1 more planet capable of sustaining life, I think the odds are extremely good!

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2. myLot reputation of 35/100. urbandekay (6793)   ranked 1,097 out of 2,509 in debating   3 years ago

As I understand it, the most recent measurements suggest that the universe will continue to expand and end in heat death, thus denying the cyclic model.

You raise some problems with the inflationary model yet these are philosophical questions not strictly speaking scientific ones.

The cyclic model is also not without problems;

1. What evidence is there that collapse would lead to regeneration?
2. Why do we not see such regeneration in black holes?
3. At the tipping point of a cyclic universe entropy is reversed; order increases. Does this mean time runs backwards?

all the best urban

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3. myLot reputation of 95/100. mariposaman (2607)   ranked 376 out of 2,509 in debating   3 years ago

I looked at the title and thought this was going to be a musical topic. Then I find you talking about balloons and bicycles. Does time have a beginning. Of course it does, my watch starts over again every day at midnight. That is actually the beginning of each day. 12:01 the first second seems the same as any other second other than I usually miss it because I am in bed.

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4. myLot reputation of 48/100. MrNiceGuy (3253)   ranked 375 out of 2,509 in debating   3 years ago

The big bang doesnt make sense to me.

Basically the beginning was something else that had already begun apparently spawned an explosion which was the source of random collisions that eventually after the just right conditions created a planet in an orbit with perfect liquid core to cause magnetic shields that were necessary for atmospheric conditions that created our Earth and its creatures? I know it was a long time, but those odds and the preconditions and circumstance are just really inconvincing to me.

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5. myLot reputation of 20/100. PrarieStyle (1161)   ranked 221 out of 2,509 in debating   3 years ago

Um, isn't it The Big Bang Theory?
I believe God made it and it Googles, on and on and on. happy


myLot reputation of 70/100. kassdaw (501)   ranked 1,779 out of 2,509 in debating  3 years ago

Why do you believe that god made it?


myLot reputation of 20/100. PrarieStyle (1161)   ranked 221 out of 2,509 in debating  3 years ago

Because he said he did, in the Bible. He also said he is, was and always will be. I also don't believe science will ever be able to prove that God exists or that he doesn't exist. He's in control of them and even if one of them were to become a believer, they still could never prove the existence of God. That's just the way it is, was and always will be. God wants to feel his presence, you can't put feelings in a test tube.
That's just what I believe, I'm not expecting that you are supposed to believe it too.

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6. pheneovine (34)   3 years ago

i believe that, for me -- time has a beginning and God came before time and God created time... i also believe that time existed first in the big bang theory really "existed"... i may also be possible that the universe will keep on going forever and ever and only God knows if he made the big bang theory or not...... coz God has the infinite knowledge of all and maybe God made the big bang theory and so we dont know his plans......

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