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myLot reputation of 80/100. whiteheather39 (15574)   ranked 195 out of 3,985 in politics 3 years ago

It may surprise Muslims but it does not surprise me. This further gives credence to my belief that welcoming Islam to the USA has been first and foremost in Obama's promise of change. Only can pray that that the American people can see just what a danger this is to the USA. He stated ""The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans," Yes we sure have 9/11 and terrorists comes to mind!!
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President Obama's speech to the Turkish parliament Monday left Muslims across the United States stunned by the dramatic way he continues to build bridges with their brethren.


"He is uniquely qualified among all the American presidents to really reach out and change the mood of the relationship between America and the Muslim world," said Akbar Ahmed, a former Pakistani ambassador and now a professor of Islamic studies at American University in Washington, D.C. "He's the first president to talk about respect for the Muslim world."

In his speech, Obama recast an often adversarial U.S. relationship with Muslims into other terms - referring to friends or friendship 10 times. It was the most significant in a series of gestures to reach out to the Muslim community since his inaugural address, when he called for a "new way forward" with Muslims "based on mutual interest and mutual respect."

"The United States is not, and will never be, at war with Islam," Obama said to applause, according to a White House transcript of Monday's speech. "In fact, our partnership with the Muslim world is critical, not just in rolling back the violent ideologies that people of all faiths reject, but also to strengthen opportunity for all its people."

Obama also tapped into his own unique heritage, which was a lightning rod in the campaign. Republicans used his middle name, Hussein, as a slur to suggest he was anti-American. At the time, Obama did relatively little outreach to Muslims, most notably not visiting a mosque while going to the sanctuaries of other faiths.

Embracing heritage
But on Monday, Obama, a Christian, continued a post-election pattern of emphatically embracing his heritage, which includes a Muslim father and stepfather and a childhood lived partly in Indonesia, a Muslim nation.

"The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans," he said in the speech. "Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them."

 

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1. myLot reputation of 62/100. AngryKittyMSV (1913)   ranked 281 out of 3,985 in politics   3 years ago

Let's not forget that he has showing the islamic world his subservience by BOWING deeply to the king of Saudi Arabia (and not any other royal, and he was the ONLY leader to do this, and his bow was not returned by the king which means both 0bama and the king do not see our President as an equal but as a subordinate).


myLot reputation of 80/100. whiteheather39 (15574)   ranked 195 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

I'm sorry I forgot to post the link:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi...

I cannot understand why people to not realize in how much jeopardy he is placing out country with his kiss a$$ Muslim policy.

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2. myLot reputation of 92/100. mandoliv (446)   3 years ago

well, it may have been a good move to say 'America is not at war with Islam". but he should have taken it a step further, and said something like 'Islam has the duty and responsibility to confront those that disgrace the Islam religion (i.e.,radicals,terrorists etc). That would have been good. Far less defeatist.


myLot reputation of 62/100. AngryKittyMSV (1913)   ranked 281 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

he should have taken it a step further, and said something like 'Islam has the duty and responsibility to confront those that disgrace the Islam religion (i.e.,radicals,terrorists etc). That would have been good. Far less defeatist.

I nominate this post for Best Response.

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3. myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23205)   ranked 122 out of 3,985 in politics   3 years ago

oh my now I am sick!
I just knew he would turn this way.
and I now am beginning to think he needs oimpeachment and soohn!
Yeah we do have muslims here as we do have all kinds of religions
and The ones that have made themselves Americans.
Might not be time bombs
all we can do it hope that the ones here are for America and Americans.
I just see thqat he is tryin to ruin us!


myLot reputation of 80/100. whiteheather39 (15574)   ranked 195 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

You and me both Lakota. When he was running for president he kept his Muslim background low key now he is bragging about his close affinity to Islam.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23205)   ranked 122 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

yup he is grrrrrrrrr

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4. myLot reputation of 93/100. MsTickle (12895)   ranked 423 out of 3,985 in politics   3 years ago

This was in the news here in Australia the other day. At first, I thought, oh dear, not good. The second and third time I heard it I changed my mind. All Muslims are not terrorists. I think he is doing the right thing in my humble opinion. I'm not pro Obama but I think I see where he is going with this.

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5. myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18789)   3 years ago

there are approximately 5 billion muslims living in the usa, your opinion to me is very racist.


myLot reputation of 62/100. AngryKittyMSV (1913)   ranked 281 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

You comment accusing Whiteheather of racism is moronic. She made no racist comments. Calling people racist seems to be the last resort of the incompetent.


motjuste (56)  3 years ago

Um, there are less than 2 million Muslims living in the U.S. There aren't even 7 billion people total in the whole world--try googling a fact, at least, to check it before you just spout off a statistic. And Muslims are not a race; they're members of a religion. If you were to call her opinion anything, it would simply be bigoted, but it's not. I don't see how Islam can be called a religion of peace by so many of its proponents. I haven't seen too many suicide Christian bombers in the last decade or two. The fact is, Islam has many more militant followers who see America and Americans as enemies of their religion; hence Sept. 11th, 2001 and the repeated attacks in Afghanistan.

America is not an imperialistic country. We do not seek to colonize any other lands. We do want trade relations and we contribue millions, possibly billions, of dollars in humanitarian aid to other countries each year. I hear of countless military operations bringing medicines and food to third world countries--operations that hardly see any ink in the media. Does Iran conduct global humanitarian missions? Does Saudi Arabia?

I think Muslim communities here in the states as a whole would be much more welcomed if they would 'police their own.' If they're that worried about the reputation of Muslims and truly want to be American citizens, then why don't they act a little more concerned in the welfare of ALL Americans?

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6. myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18789)   3 years ago

what about the 5 billion good muslims leaving in the usa, your opinion is very racist,


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18789)  3 years ago

sorry the words was supposed to be living in the usa not leaving it, these are good hard working people not terrorists,

timothy mcveigh was a white man he bombed the oklahoma government building he was a terrorist should we now call every white american a terrorist too?

stop blaming a whole people for the acts of a 1% of a community who do not represent the people they go against what the people are all about.


myLot reputation of 80/100. whiteheather39 (15574)   ranked 195 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

You have a lot to learn before you post such idiotic comment... You said 5 BILLION Ha ha ha wow did you show your ignorance .....The current 2008 US population estimates at about 305,473,867 Have you ever lived in a Muslim country as a non Muslim woman? I have so I can assure you even a Canadian would not like 5 billion Muslims in their country it is not their work ethics I am speaking of but their religious laws towards non Muslims. You need to understand what a racist is before you accuse me of being one. A Muslim is not a race it is an adherent to a religious belief (Islam) so the correct insult would be a bigot. So please educate yourself before you try to insult me. Ignorance is not an excuse. So in other words I am not a racist.


myLot reputation of 80/100. whiteheather39 (15574)   ranked 195 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

Thought I would help you out:
Muslim Populations, Mid-2005
United States 4,745,200
http://www.prb.org/Journalists/FAQ/Muslims.aspx


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18789)  3 years ago

thanks the source I checked said more,

here is again a difference source. stating that as of 2007, there are 1.5 million muslems in the usa and the are moderate people very similar to christians,

http://americanaffairs.su...


myLot reputation of 62/100. AngryKittyMSV (1913)   ranked 281 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

Rose, YOU are the racist, you cry racism every time anyone makes a comment you don't like. All I see form you when you stick your nose into American politics (even though you are not America and you should really concern yourself with the happenings in your own damned country) is that you either blame Bush for things 0bama does, or you call people racist, which is what people do when they have no REAL factual basis to comment on anything. Your opinion is very ignorant.


myLot reputation of 80/100. whiteheather39 (15574)   ranked 195 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

Thank you winterose you just confirmed that that you do not think before you spout off about 5 BILLION Muslims. Your opinion is very ignorant.


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18789)  3 years ago

angel I have no idea why you want to fight I don't even know you, but look up the word racist and prejudice in the dictionary that will start,

as far as people knowing about other cultures that is a good thing, not a bad one, if you don;t like my comments you really don't have to read them, and vice versa,

I said her comment was racist,

when you take a few people and say the whole group of people are that way then that is racism, you learn that in high school,

it is not my word I did not invent it,

but I am not going to fight with you, not now or ever, you can accept it or not that is your business

your opinion is your opinion,

as a teacher of cultural differences which I have done in my life time I point out these things,

it doesn't mean that people always understand when their remarks are racist, they are not always intending to hurt other people by them, but it happens and to make a better world where we all can get along we have to try and be sensitive to people,

I am not talking about terrorists here, nobody will be sensitive to terrorists, but to poor people who happen to be of the same race or religion who have nothing to do with terrorists they are being blamed for things that did not do, or would ever do.

Even people who only look like a muslem are being hurt by this, I am many people I know have seen this happen over and over again,

so try to look at it as finding a way to get along with ordinary people who have nothing to do with racism but are just the same as you and me.


myLot reputation of 80/100. whiteheather39 (15574)   ranked 195 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

AngryKittyMSV I have also noticed that yelling racist seems to be winterose's answer to everything. It only shows me her lack of intelligence as her facts are usually completely screwed up.


myLot reputation of 62/100. AngryKittyMSV (1913)   ranked 281 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

Let's just hope winterose is not teaching math, spelling, grammar or history, since she seems to have such a problem with all four.


myLot reputation of 80/100. whiteheather39 (15574)   ranked 195 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

OMG you said "as a teacher of cultural differences which I have done in my life time I point out these things" How can anyone who does not get the facts right teach anything! No worder the world is getting screwed up. MUSLIMS ARE NOT A RACE THEY ARE MEMBERS OF A SPECIFIC RELIGION Again from the dictionary which you obviously do not know how to use so please educate yourself:

racĀ·ism (rszm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/racism


myLot reputation of 80/100. whiteheather39 (15574)   ranked 195 out of 3,985 in politics  3 years ago

AngryKittyMSV I certainly hope not as she really does have problems in these areas.. BTW you must be the "angel" she is referring to as I'm pretty sure it is not me.


myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (18789)  3 years ago

whiteheather, I got the stats from the net before I posted I should have put the source, my mistake for not putting it in, but I found a more realistic stat which I did post.

it still says 1.5 million which is quite sizable.

so pardon me for putting 5 billion because that is what the first place said, but I think the second stat is more accurate it cited the survey source if you read the article, in any event, we can agree that the right stat is somewhere between what you got from your research and I got from mine, these are both internet sources and so either one or neither of them could be right.

the main point was that there are decent muslims in the country and they are being blamed for things they didn't do. All I am trying to point out is to blame the terrorists all you want or anybody wants for that matter, nobody likes terrorists nor should they,

but not the average person. some of the nicest people I have known in my life time have been muslems, but muslems are like anybody else some are nice some are arrogant some uneducated some are very educated, they are like the average white person, their religion is different but that is fine

grouping everyone together in a negative way only breeds more hatred and we have enough hatred in this world, you say you were a teacher of cultural differences then I don't need to tell you this, you know and understand.

can we drop this now, I think all points have been made,

again I apologize for not listing my source the first time,

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