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myLot reputation of 99/100. hotsummer (3660)   ranked 277 out of 8,288 in listening to music 3 years ago

A local singer here in the philippines being threatened of being put in jail or being fined some amount of money if he does not apologize for ruining the national anthem. He sung our national anthem in the recent boxing fight of Manny Pacquiao from philippines and Hatton from UK. Apparently, the people concerned over protecting our national anthem being misused got irked in the rendition Of martin nievera of our national anthem. I admit it seems to quite change some melody cause it is not that easy to sing the national anthem in front of the big crowd on that very big event.

he is demanded to give public apology in national television but he declined saying he did not commit any crime or wrong. It is just the way he sing it.

Do you think that he should be blamed or held accountable for the way he sung the national anthem.

 

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1. myLot reputation of 93/100. jhoannejoj (729)   ranked 6,455 out of 8,288 in listening to music   3 years ago

Really? Oh I dont think so.. I was shocked while reading yous post. I just cant get the idea of why he should fine or worse go to jail of singing our national anthem in a different way. I havent seen it though but in my opinion i find it so absurd. Those people who are protecting our national anthem should do something if he sung it with mockery or make fun of it. I know for sure, he's singing it the best way he can for its a big event and he must be very proud or honored to be one to sing the national anthem. Well thanks for the info..


roelsonguitar (78)   ranked 4,306 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

Hi i'm Filipino, i live in Baguio City. I agree he sung it with his best.


myLot reputation of 99/100. hotsummer (3660)   ranked 277 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

i am sure that he gave his best rendition. but still he made some mistakes on the way he sung it. I for one don't agree that he should be punished though we really respect our national anthem. but he did not deliberately tried to change it. some times things happen differently. it is a live performance there is no second take to it.

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2. myLot reputation of 91/100. maean_19 (3349)   ranked 1,107 out of 8,288 in listening to music   3 years ago

Hi hotsummer!

No doubt that Martin Nievera is a good and a popular singer, and his professionalism is tested when he had to sing the National Anthem. To sing the National Anthem properly should not be taken for granted because it is definitely a song representing our Country. It is different when one has to sing an ordinary song.

I have seen the news about the topic and I have to disapprove with the singer's remarks. I am not a good singer, but I have knowledge about the law. With your question stated above, Martin is accountable for violating a law, which is changing the tempo or melody of the National Anthem.

If for example, he is asked to sing "Ang Bayan Ko", instead of "Lupang Hinirang", then the situation would have been different because the former is not the Philippine's National Anthem, hence he may change the melody of the song.

As a professional singer, he has to know that.


roelsonguitar (78)   ranked 4,306 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

Well according to you maean, you know the law. But is there a law that exists stating that the national anthem shouldn't be changed in tempo? I personally am a musician, i rearrange songs when performing. I play the national anthem in every special gig we have with my band. We also rearrange it into a Jazz type of Rhythm Section, but we don't play that everytime. We know when to play it the 'original' way and when to give it a rendition. Well, going back, i believe Martin Nievera is supposed to sing our national anthem in its original state, no rearrangements. Cuz that would give justice to the centuries of Philippine history, the original musician/composer's idea, and the ingrained melody in the minds of our fellow citizens.


roelsonguitar (78)   ranked 4,306 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

In the match of our national boxer, the Philippine national anthem is not an ordinary song. But in the everyday lives of most of our Pinoy bros, most treat our national anthem, less than an ordinary song. They give more credit to novelty songs currently heard on the radio.


myLot reputation of 99/100. hotsummer (3660)   ranked 277 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

i totally agree with you that it is no ordinary song. but martin did his best. I think that he still do not deserve the criticism and the threat he has been receiving. he should be forgiven without any formal apology to be broadcast in public. he should be complimented for being in that said event to support our filipino champ. i think next time that they should put the next singer on training personally and tell them how to sing it right so that next time there will not be any more fuss over the way they sung the national anthem.


myLot reputation of 91/100. maean_19 (3349)   ranked 1,107 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

Hi roelsonguitar!

First and foremost, thank you for commenting on my response. I deeply appreciate that. With respect to your inquiry, I will answer based on the law itself and will quote it for your sake and everyone's information.

The following provision is taken from Republic Act 8491:

Section 2, Declaration of policy - Reverence and respect shall at all times be accorded the flag, anthem, and other national symbols....x.x.x

Section 37 The rendition of the National anthem, whether played or sung, shall be in accordance with the musical arrangement and composition of Julian Felipe.

(Note: The provision made use of the term "shall" which means, it is mandatory to follow thereof.)

Sec. 38, par. 3
The anthem shall not be played and sung for mere recreation, amusement or entertainment purposes except on the following occasions:
a) International competitions where the Philippines is the host or has a representative;
b) Local competitions;
c) During the "signing off" and "signing on" of radio broadcasting and television stations;
d) Before the initial and last screening of films and before the opening of theater performances; and
e) Other occasions as may be allowed by the Institute.

Section 50 under Penalties
Any person or juridical entity which violates any of the provisions of this Act shall, upon conviction, be punished by a fine of not less than Five thousand pesos (P5,000) nor more than Twenty thousand pesos (P20,000), or by imprisonment for not more than one (1) year, or both such fine and imprisonment, at the discretion of the court: Provided, That for any second and additional offenses, both fine and imprisonment shall always be imposed: Provided, further, That in case the violation is committed by a juridical person, its President or Chief Executive Officer thereof shall be liable.


I think the provisions of the law are clear.


myLot reputation of 91/100. maean_19 (3349)   ranked 1,107 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

Hello again hotsummer!

I can sense that you sympathized with Martin Nievera and same with me. But then, you cannot change the fact that he did change the melody of the National Anthem, despite Ryan Cayabyab's advise. Certainly, that is bad faith on his part. Moreover, many previous singers had been warned for the same violation. If we tolerate what happened, tendency is it will happen again and again. Perhaps, it is about time that we have to wake up and give respect to our National Anthem because it is a representation of our country and nationality.

Another point, Martin Nievera in singing the National Anthem is not performing for his personal purpose rather he is a representative of the Filipinos.

I have a high admiration to Martin for his singing, but it is not a lose for him to make a public apology or admit that he made a mistake. If he do that, I think people may applaude him for that.


myLot reputation of 99/100. hotsummer (3660)   ranked 277 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

i totally sympathize with Martin. cause i feel that he didn't intentionally sang it for his own pleasure. i just wanted to give a good rendition but failed though to please the crowd specially us filipinos. i think that they should overlooked that mistake and instead just educate the singers here next time that they sing that they should follow the rule on how to sing it correctly.


myLot reputation of 91/100. maean_19 (3349)   ranked 1,107 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

I definitely understand and respect your standing about the issue my dear, and I just hope my response will not lead to negative rating. hehehe! Because, honestly am also speaking based on my opinion. That's the way I see it. Martin made a mistake which should be treated impartially. What I meant with this is that, if say the mistake should be overlooked and not dealt, it will happen again and thus there will be favoritism.

May I ask, what if an ordinary person did the same and he/she was penalized for said mistake? It would be unfair right?

The only difference is that a celebrity is involved in the issue that makes it controversial. Which I think is an informative issue to everyone or every Filipinos.

"Ignorance of the law excuses no one from compliance therewith"



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3. myLot reputation of 90/100. sanuanu (4141)   3 years ago

Right tone or melody isn't that important but it must be given the respect and one must sing with true feeling inside their heart. That is one most important thing about national anthem.

Well, in that singer's case, if he thinks that he didn't do any wrong thing, then he is right. If he would have not respected it then it would hav been a problem which I think he didn't


myLot reputation of 99/100. hotsummer (3660)   ranked 277 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

Yeah i agree with you. i just don't know what will be the other country's reaction in this kind of incident if their national anthem were not sung well in such event.

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4. myLot reputation of 98/100. serenity264 (186)   3 years ago

I Know what your talking about and I saw that on the news today. I'm from the philippines too. My goodness! honestly! What is wrong with our justice system?! they have time to fuss with little stuff like that When we have larger problems to face. I mean why not focus on helping those that were in the landslide or those that were abandoned by MV princess of the stars who by the way up til now have not been totally settled just forgotten since the press's focus is not with them anymore. Anyways back to the topic. It's a song and as an artist he has the right to sing it to fit his voice range and express his artistry. It wouldn't be good if he was to embarass himself trying to reach a high pitched song in international television when he has a baritone voice. It would cause our country an embarassment as well.


myLot reputation of 99/100. hotsummer (3660)   ranked 277 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

totally true. there are so many problems that they should put their attention to. and not waste their time to this little issue which will not help our country get better. i think that people just like wasting their time for nothing. what good will it make if they point it out that martin made a terrible rendition of the song. it still sound like a national anthem to me. though i understand their dismay over the rendition, but he did not made a mess of the whole song. there were just some part of the song that seem to change a bit. and that was it.

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5. kimbreezy (14)   ranked 6,386 out of 8,288 in listening to music   3 years ago

To me it's a matter of respect. Respect the anthem enough to learn it, respect those around you enough to not mess them up.


myLot reputation of 99/100. hotsummer (3660)   ranked 277 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

yeah i think that we should learn to sing our national anthem but still i think that it just needs reminder than punishment for those made a mistake singing it.

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6. assunta (22)   3 years ago

the only thing i would like to say to those politicians making a big fuss over this issue is - there are a hell lot more of unlawful actions done by our people they should concentrate on. if the national anthem was used/sung in an INDECENT way then that's the time to pursue the issue. Martin sung it beautifully and soulfully.


myLot reputation of 91/100. maean_19 (3349)   ranked 1,107 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

Hi assunta! I want to correct that it weren't politicians who are raising the issue. It became a controversial because many singers who were warned of singing the National Anthem in the proper way as mandated by law, which happened again. So I think, it is about time that the issue should not be taken for granted for every Filipinos' information.

No doubt, Martin Nievera is a good singer and that he sang the National anthem beautifully, but we cannot change the fact that he made changes or rearranged the song which is prohibited by law.

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7. myLot reputation of 66/100. caffeinedrunk (210)   ranked 6,444 out of 8,288 in listening to music   3 years ago

As a Filipino citizen, he should be well aware of how to sing our national anthem. I have to say that I didn't like the way he sang the ending of the national anthem. There's a place and time for singing as if you're giving a concert and that time was not it. Anyway, I think it's better if he is fined for what he did and be forced to make a public apology rather than be put to jail because I think being put to jail for the reason that he did not sing the national anthem right is a bit too much.

I feel sorry for those who are chosen to sing the national anthem at Manny Pacquiao's fights because the pressure that is put on them is just... stressful. Imagine having to sing in front of thousands of crowds and singing it the way it's supposed to be sung! The original (and right) version of the Philippine anthem can be a bit confusing because you have to sing it in a way that seems as if you were being chased by the devil himself. It's just a tad too fast lol!


myLot reputation of 91/100. maean_19 (3349)   ranked 1,107 out of 8,288 in listening to music  3 years ago

I certainly agree with you. He made a mistake and he should face the consequences of his actions. Besides, he was already warned by Ryan Cayabyab not to change or rearrange the song, yet he pursued it, therefore he is in bad faith.

On the other hand, punishment is either fine or imprisonment. With regard to the issue and if a complaint will be filed against him and held guilty, I think he will only be fined because imprisonment is harsh for him.

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8. myLot reputation of 96/100. CatsandDogs (6424)   ranked 927 out of 8,288 in listening to music   3 years ago

It is very important however, not everybody can sing. In our country (USA) we've had numerous people sing the national anthem in which all have done a wonderful job except for one and that was Roseanne Barr. She made a mockery of the song in which the whole crowd booed her out and then had the gall to be offended. She had ruined her career because of that but she wasn't put in jail. Jail is a little too extreme.

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9. myLot reputation of 97/100. sarahruthbeth22 (15801)   ranked 15 out of 8,288 in listening to music   3 years ago

Well, The Nation anthem of The United states is both hard to sing and ugly. the only time I love to hear it is when we get a gold medal in the Olympics.With that said there have been great versions of it but not all liked them, The first that comes to mind is Jimi Hendrix's version. His was fantastic but some didn't like it at all. And Whitney Houston did a great job too but it wasn't exactly to the letter.The one time someone messed up the Anthem was when Roseanne Barr " sang" it, It was more of off pitched screaming.She got a lot of flack but she wasn't fined or put into jail. I guess we either don't take it as seriously as our Philippines' cousins or since it is so hard to sing,we just are more forgiving.

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