Is there a conspiracy to establish a one world government?  | | | | Even presidents have used the term 'New World Order'. Are we all just being paranoid? Have you been called a conspiracy nut cause you think we are all being led down the path to '1984'? Whether your reasons for believing in a conspiracy are political or religious, have you visited sites and read claims concerning the Illuminati and the Bilderberger Group? If you don't think we have anything to worry about, tell me why you think everything is business as usual. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | debrakcarey (2673)
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3 years ago
| | Have you done any research on the above mentioned groups? Some are saying the Rothchild family and their control of the banking world is behind all this, what do you think? | | | | | | | The Mormon Faith Get Closer to God. Learn about Our Heavenly Father & His Plan for You. www.mormon.org | add comment | | | |
| 2. gewcew23 (5064)
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3 years ago
| | I am not that worried about some new world order with a one world government. We have enough threats to our liberty at home to worry about. A million tyrants one mile away is much more dangerous than one tyrant million miles away. Now we do need to concern ourselves we the lose of national sovereignty, but with so many countries with so many different agenda I cannot see how it would be possible to unite the world into a one world government. | | | | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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3 years ago
| | I've wondered how they'd do that too. Maybe a world wide crisis...natural disaster? Do you think if a meteor hit we'd all be made to cooperate? Or would anarcy rule the day? | | | | gewcew23 (5064)
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3 years ago
| | It would take a crisis that affect everyone the same way to unite all countries. The issue would also be to keep them united. Once the crisis was resolved some countries would want to break away. Also being the perception that a group of countries might benefit at the expense of others could create a World Civil war much like our American Civil war. | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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3 years ago
| | I don't know if you are a Bible believer or not...but the book of Revelation describes some world wide disasters and plagues. It also describes a cooperation between the anti christ and a 'religious' leader, as head of state, he is 'wounded' in his head and dies and comes back to life. This causes all to worship him as a diety. Do you think there is any comparision to what is going on right now? We seem to be seeing a 'worship' state of mind in some towards Obama...not that I think any of that alludes to him personally. With todays medical knowledge it is more and more possible to 'bring someone back to life once dead'. | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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3 years ago
| | Gewcew....our problems at home ARE a result of the push for a World Government. We're not going to fix anything here until people realize what the bigger plan is. Even then....it may be past the point of fixing. | | | | runningman72 (1075)
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3 years ago
| | A mandated vaccine that is possibly toxic without proper testing could be that crisis! The media reports what they want (are paid) to. People don't even know! Better to be safe rather than sorry. There are many rumors and conspiracy theories. The problem is that most people are sheep and just follow along with whatever the media says, which mind you is controlled by the Rockefellers, the Rothchilds, etc. All of these people love money and power and will stop at nothing to create this New World Order. By the way, the plan is to reduce the world population from almost 7 billion down to around 1 billion with one government, and a peaceful bunch of people. It is already happening, if not before 12/12/12, as soon as 09/09/09, check it out! http://www.theflucase.com (then research Fema camps, World Health Organization, etc) P.S. The only thing other than God to stop it now would be a mammoth uprising, share! | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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| | Well....I had a case of the swine flu. Took care of it with elderberry extract and vitamin C and a wonderful herbal blend called...'Grizzlies Lung clear'! (sorta like Mucinex) I work in healthcare and I see the trend toward government control of what we are 'allowed' to ingest, what we are allowed access to. It's not a pretty picture. The swine flu scare is just that....a scare tactic to make us all fearful and needy. I was almost taken in...until I contracted it. Sure, I was sick....felt like cr*p. And if I'd not known how to care for my self I would of needed a doctor to help. Those who are already infirm or who have compromised immune sysytems need that help....but they would for ANY type of flu. People need to wake up...make themselves aware of what is going on....and educate themselves on taking CARE of theirselves...and not be so needy of government 'protection'. | | | | | | | Homemade Energy Generator The Only Device that Produces Green Energy that Has 3 U.S. Patents! hojomotor.com | add comment | | | |
| 3. dogsnme (825)
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3 years ago
| | I believe so and it will be the one run by the Antichrist | | | | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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3 years ago
| | Do you believe he's alive in the world today? | | | | dogsnme (825)
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3 years ago
| | I don't know. I suppose he could be. | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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3 years ago
| | The Muslims are looking for the return of the 12th Iman...and believe that he will return amidst global disasters or wars. The president of Iran is attempting to gain nuclear weapons to bring this return about...this is documented by Muslim scholars. Israel has been in the land since 1948...and Jesus said that the generation that saw this return to Jerusalem by the Jews would be the one to see him return. I know the Bible says we cannot know the day or hour...but Jesus did narrow it down to the generation...there is many more reasons I believe we are in the end times...but this is the main one I quote. | | | | | | | Mortgage Rates at 2.25% $200,000 home mortgage for $764/mo. See New Payment. No SSN Required. Mortgage.LeadSteps.com | add comment | | | |
| | | debrakcarey (2673)
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3 years ago
| | I've been meaning to check out that website...have seen reference to it alot on here. I'll do that in the morning and come back to tell you what I think. :) | | | | | | | Who Is God, Really? Find out what God is like & what He expects of you. Order free book. ucg.org/bible-study-aid | add comment | | | |
| 5. keymandan (737)
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3 years ago
| | Let's start at the beginning. A conspiracy is two or more people who plan to commit a crime. The crime may involve fraud or deceit, but the purpose is to injure another person or organization. We must first identify the victim of the crime, the evidence that the crime was committed, and finally the perpetrators of the crime. The victim would, in this case, be the American people themselves. Oh, it might also include the British and the French and the Indians and the Portugese, for all I know. But, if we are seeing the decline of our culture to being one of a third world status, then I would suspect there is a crime. The question then becomes, what is the evidence it is coordinated and planned? How will it best serve somebody to see Western culture become decadent and without a system of laws which make sense? Now, that gets really nasty. Who in their right mind would see the United States of America, the greatest civilization ever, with more money and military power than any other, go down? Go back to 1913. Right before the apex of the European power. The United States, isolated, alone, and getting more prosperous by the minute. Except for the lowly farmer, who only wants more money for his crops. Hence, we decide on two things - a national income tax, and a national bank once again - having done without a national bank since the days of Andy Jackson. Except there is a difference - the national bank isn't under the treasury dept, it is an independent, private organization called the Federal Reserve. They develop a scheme - the Warburgs and such - to print the money that the farmers so desperately need, and get it back with an organization called the "Internal Revenue Service". If it is a service, then it needs to be updated, once again. What is internal about it? The idea is to tax only government employees. Everyone holding government monies is therefore a taxpayer. It would take another 20-25 years to put this system into place. They had to make sure that, with manipulation of the total amount of money in the economy, nobody had any, and there was the problem of older folks losing their homes and begging for food. The solution? Social Security. And everybody except ministers had to pay. The number which was assigned, mind you, was never to be used for identification purposes. Of that we were repeatedly assured. Now, in order to be recipient, somewhere down the road, you had to have a certain amount deducted from your check. As that was not paid in until the end of the payroll period, you were in fact holding government monies, because as was repeated stated in court case after case, the money was the government's and not yours. Therefore, if you were holding the government's money, you were de facto an employee of the government. How charming. A taxpayer, therefore, was one who had a social security number. Great! That meant everyone. Even ministers weren't exempt after a while. Most folks got to the point they could remember theirs without having to look at the card. "in their foreheads". They obviously couldn't work without having one "in their hands". Furthermore, as the use of credit and debit cards increased, and they were tied to that SSN, it got to the point where no one could buy or sell without that number. For it is the number of a man. Wonderful thing about those King James scholars - every now and then they got it right. It was the number of an individual. Somehow, something John wrote on the Isle of Patmos, then translated via some scholars 1600 years later, then read and understood into the freaking 21st century told the truth. Every man would have his own number. Every woman, every child, every foreigner, everybody! How absolutely charming. What's more, it is a voluntary program. You don't have to participate. Even the filing of taxes is voluntary. It's just two years in prison if you don't volunteer. Still, I guess you always have a choice. It got to be truly internal. The external taxation in the form of tariffs and such meant less and less, and the internal taxes meant more and more. Only problem was that since two plus dos wasn't equaling fo', we had to borrow money and that we did - big time. That meant we had to pay interest on the national debt, and it turns out that the tax receipts were equivalent to the interest itself. That spells "bankruptcy", because if you don't pay on the principal, you aren't going to survive for long. That has been going on for a long time now, and with the current financial quagmire Obama et al are finding themselves in, that is the biggest dilemma. The scheme to rob us of our wealth has taken a very long time - almost a hundred years. The farmers first saw crop prices rise, and then fall dramatically. Nothing changed, except that now the rich got richer, and the poor got poorer - in the end. This is our funeral march. Lay this body in the ground. We have no more rights because we have no more property. We have no more wealth because the great majority of us faithfully paid the tax, only to see it go towards monies paid to those who were already wealthy. We have no more morality because it lacked the convenience which being immoral held. And even those who fought the good fight are passing on as so much chaff. In all that we do, let us remember the old adage, "Those who do not learn history are bound to repeat it." Dan | | | | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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| | Wow...you explained that very well...never thought of it like that. Do you think these verichips are part of it? If it is merely a SS # and we all have one now...from the day of our birth, how is it that God will send every one of us to h*ll for having it. Babies don't have a choice. I think the SS# was the beginning of it...but they'll refine it even more with the technology of the chips. | | | | keymandan (737)
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| | Of course the verichips are a part of it, but first they had to set up a world-wide network of information on everyone and everything. The verichips are now in use in dogs, in cats, and in livestock. We used to joke back in the 90's that we were going to set up our own company to put chips in people. "Get your chip here!" "Be the first to have your own chip!" At any rate, the point is to verify all personal information as part of all information that can be gathered, and then to control by individualizing it back again. God is not going to send anyone to a firey burning hell because they had no choice but to agree to the beast system. The system is a mental fabrication - one created over a long period of time, but it is false - it is not real. They told us as much in movies such as "Minority Report", "Deja Vu", and "The Matrix". We are creating the hologram, and asking the government, or whatever, to impose upon us the control we feel we need to survive in a world of more people and less resources. That's the key - we keep that number in mind. We believe it is security when we grow old or sick. We project thoughts of concentration camps and martial law. We ask for totalitarian government. God is infinite mercy. We are doing this to ourselves, while He cries from heaven looking on. This is man's way of creation and destruction of a world. It is not God's way, and never will be. As long as the fantasy continues, we will not see or understand the truth. For the truth is greater than man's inventions - be they verichips or water sprinklers. I know this is rather disjointed. I'm glad that you enjoyed my last comment. I've rather left that behind, because it leads nowhere, from what I can tell. I want to create a new reality for myself and for others. Dan | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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| | I do have to disagree here...that those who take this mark will be held accountable. Revelation 20:4 kjv And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Revelation 14:9-11 And the third angel followed them saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angles, and in the presence of the Lamb; and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. This mark has some special significance as to who we are loyal to. I think it is interesting that the souls of those who died without the mark....were beheaded. Muslims like to behead those who won't convert or who they feel do not pay due respect to Allah. | | | | | | | Generate Your Own Energy Reduce Bills & Increase Comfort. Save Money. Save Planet. Live Better. HomeMadeEnergy.org | add comment | | | |
| 6. libby2009 (2553)
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3 years ago
| | Of course there is plans for a one world government and Satan is behind it. This is why we should look forward to God's day. | | | | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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| | Hey Libby...:) So how do we convince the world that their is a battle between good and evil...send them to see star wars? I agree with you 100% But the majority of people on the planet don't. How would we get them to see that there even is evil...let alone manifested in a being such as satan? | | | | libby2009 (2553)
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3 years ago
| | Not everyone will see. It will be like The Great Flood in Noah's day. Please, read below for more understanding: Although many past wars fought near Megiddo proved decisive, none eliminated wickedness. None really pitted the forces of good against the forces of evil, in the absolute sense. Logically, that type of conflict must originate with God. As Jesus once said, “nobody is good, except one, God.” (Luke 18:19) Furthermore, the Bible specifically refers to Armageddon as God’s war. In the Bible, the book of Revelation says that “the kings of the entire inhabited earth” will be gathered together “to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.” (Revelation 16:14) The prophetic account then adds: “And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon,” or Armageddon. (Revelation 16:16) Later on, Revelation explains that “the kings of the earth and their armies” will be “gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army.” (Revelation 19:19) This horseman is identified as none other than Jesus Christ.—1 Timothy 6:14, 15; Revelation 19:11, 12, 16. What are we to conclude from these verses? That Armageddon is a war between God and the forces of disobedient mankind. Why would Jehovah and his Son, Jesus Christ, fight such a war? For one thing, Armageddon will “bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” (Revelation 11:18) In addition, it will usher in a peaceful world, “a new earth that we are awaiting according to his [God’s] promise,” where “righteousness is to dwell.”—2 Peter 3:13. Taking Armageddon Seriously Whose side will we be on in this decisive conflict? Most of us automatically assume that we are aligned with the forces of good. But how can we be sure? “Seek righteousness, seek meekness,” urges the prophet Zephaniah. (Zephaniah 2:3) The will of God is that “all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth,” says the apostle Paul.—1 Timothy 2:4. Learning the truth about Jehovah and his purpose to rid the earth of wickedness is a first step toward salvation. Practicing righteousness is a second step, bringing us God’s favor and protection. If we take these important steps, we can actually look forward to Armageddon, a war that really will bring an end to human warfare. When that battle is over, people everywhere will view war as incomprehensible and repulsive. “Never again will they learn war.”—Isaiah 2:4, New American Standard Bible. Source: The Watchtower April 1, 2008 copyright 2009 www.watchtower.org No copyright has been infringed in quoting this article. Libby Baez copyright 2009 Libby Baez No part of this reply can be used without prior written consent. | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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| | Not only is it wickedness of mankind that brings on Armeggedon...mankind will embrace the rule of satan in the earth for a time...this battle is the ultimate battle between good and evil. Who's side are we on...is what determines our fate. I think that is what the 'mark' will signify. Do we trust in God to provide for us? Or do we trust in the 'beast' to give us permission to buy and sell? | | | | libby2009 (2553)
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| | God already knows the condition of our hearts. He knows His flock. Read these scriptures to help you with these two new questions. Deuteronomy 28:1-68 2 Chronicles 32:1-33 In speaking about his abiding mercies for his people, God said: “Just as I have sworn that the waters of Noah shall no more pass over the earth, so I have sworn that I will not become indignant toward you nor rebuke you.” As surely as the Noachian Flood did overwhelm the earth, so God’s loving-kindness will be with those trusting in him.—Isaiah 54:9. --- “The last days” has become a very common expression. In the English language alone, it has been part of the title of hundreds of books. Consider, for example, the recent book The Last Days of Innocence—America at War, 1917-1918. The prologue makes clear that when using the term “the last days,” the book refers to a specific time, one in which there has been a tremendous decay in morals. “In 1914,” the prologue explains, “the country was changing more rapidly than at any time in its history.” Indeed, the year 1914 marked a plunge into war worldwide, which had not been experienced before. The book says: “This was total war, the conflict not of army against army but nation against nation.” This war, as we will see, occurred at the beginning of what the Bible terms “the last days.” The Bible teaches us that despite the immorality surrounding us, we need to be “blameless and innocent, children of God without a blemish in among a crooked and twisted generation.” To do this, we need to keep “a tight grip on the word of life.” (Philippians 2:15, 16) This Bible statement provides the key to how Christians can remain untainted by moral corruption—they need to hold fast to the teachings of God’s Word and recognize that its moral standards represent the best way of living. “The god of this system of things,” Satan the Devil, is trying to win over people’s hearts. (2 Corinthians 4:4) The Bible tells us that he “keeps transforming himself into an angel of light.” His ministers, those who serve him by acting like him, do too. (2 Corinthians 11:14, 15) They promise freedom and fun, but as the Bible says, “they themselves are existing as slaves of corruption.”—2 Peter 2:19. Have no illusions about it. Those who ignore God’s moral standards will suffer dire consequences. The Bible psalmist wrote: “Salvation is far away from the wicked ones, for they have not searched for [God’s] own regulations.” (Psalm 119:155; Proverbs 5:22, 23) Are we convinced of that? If we are, let us protect our minds and hearts against permissive propaganda. Many, however, unwisely reason, ‘If what I’m doing is not illegal, then it’s all right.’ But that is not so. Our heavenly Father lovingly provides moral guidance, not to make your life boring and restrictive, but to protect you. He is “teaching you to benefit yourself.” He wants you to avoid calamity and enjoy a happy life. Indeed, as the Bible teaches, serving God “holds promise of the life now and that which is to come.” That is “the real life,” eternal life in his promised new world!—Isaiah 48:17, 18; 1 Timothy 4:8; 6:19. A couple listening to a woman play a guitar So compare the benefits of following Bible teachings with the heartache that eventually comes to those who fail to do so. Winning God’s favor by listening to him is truly the best way of life! “As for the one listening to me,” God promises, “he will reside in security and be undisturbed from dread of calamity.”—Proverbs 1:33. --- I don't do doubt for one minute that we are in the last days, Debra. What we do now will determine our fate when we have to meet our Creator. I believe in the promise that God makes in Revelation: 21:3,4. Sorry to give you so much material to read but I hope it helps you find the answers you are looking for. Source: Awake! April 2007 copyright 2009 www.watchtower.org No copyright has been infringed in quoting this article. Libby Baez copyright 2009 Libby Baez No part of this reply can be used without prior written consent. | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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| | You are speaking just what I think as well...I wish I was as articulate as you in doing so. :) Thanks for the posts...you never need to apologize to me for it being to much. Thanks Libby! | | | | libby2009 (2553)
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| | It's not really that I can articulate so well as much as letting the Word of God speak through me. I trust in His Word and let it guide me daily. If my sharing of the wisdom and knowledge I have acquired helps someone who will listen then blessed be God for having a sheep return to His flock. Thanks, Debra. | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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| | And thank you as well, Libby. | | | | | | | | | Bank Mortgage Rate 2.87% Mortgage rates of Federal Reserve Bank drop. Lock-in a low rate www.MortgagesBestRates.com | add comment | | | |
| 7. Destiny007 (4866)
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3 years ago
| | No, we are not being paranoid. The warnings and signs have been there for decades, but just last year, the press and politicians began open discussion and acknowledgment of a New World Order. We have the IMF, the CFR, the UN, WTO, Bilderberger Group, WHO, and many others whose sole purpose is to bring all nations under their jurisdiction... including the Federal Reserve which is made up of foreign banking interests. The UN is trying to set itself up to be the authority for the world, with taxes being paid to it. Our government makes continuous statements claiming that we are part of a world community... Citizens of the World... when the fact is that I am a citizen of the US. Bush Sr. used the words New World Order in 1991... Soros and his Open Society has that as their goal, as do most other leftist organizations. The whole Global Warming/Climate Change scam is also a major component. Freedom To Fascism http://video.google.com/v... http://www.conspiracyarch... http://www.aim.org/aim-co... http://www.aim.org/aim-co... http://www.northcom.mil/News/2008/021408.html Although there is much more information available, I think you get the idea from this small sampling. The answer is a resounding yes.... the conspiracy not only exists... it has been systematically and incrementally implemented over a very lng period of time. http://www.wnd.com/index.... | | | | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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| | Thank you for those links...I've been thinking about doing a blog with the history and current events proving that there is a conspiracy. This is more than just a history lesson. It has always been said that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The coming events are that doom. | | | | | | | Free Bible CD Amazing Bible Software plus Reference Library on CD - Free! FreeSoftwareCD.net | add comment | | | |
| | | debrakcarey (2673)
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3 years ago
| | Since the beginning of recorded time, man has tried to establish a one world government or empire. The Babylonians-The Greeks (Medes) and Persians-Rome-Napoleon-Hitler. I don't think we will throw out the notion...it seems to be part of our DNA. | | | | tjades (1602)
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| | I guess the scriopure "we were born and shaped in iniquity" takes on real form here. Man have certainly been preoccupied with the idea of owning their fellow men. Thanks for the BR | | | | | | | | | international banking Search local and national job listings. Apply Now, Start Tomorrow. www.JobsOnline.net | add comment | | | |
| 9. Angelgirl16 (1593)
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3 years ago
| | Hi, This is a thought provoking topic. I really believe conspiracies will always be part of our lives. We, who believe in a higher power, ruler of all, or God, should be watchful and put our trust in the creator. What is there that we could do if this were to come to pass? Nothing, I think. I don't think we are paranoid, conspiracy is as old as the earth. | | | | | | | debrakcarey (2673)
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| | Thank you for that excellent answer! You have posted the truth. Man has always tried to rule without God and this is no exception. And putting our trust in HIM will be the only way we survive. Thanks Angelgirl16. | | | | | | | Local Banks Find Local Banks Near You. See Actual Customer Reviews! Local.com | add comment | | | |
| 10. runningman72 (1075)
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3 years ago
| | Better to be safe rather than sorry. There are many rumors and conspiracy theories. The problem is that most people are sheep and just follow along with whatever the media says, which mind you is controlled by the Rockefellers, the Rothchilds, etc. All of these people love money and power and will stop at nothing to create this New World Order. By the way, the plan is to reduce the world population from almost 7 billion down to around 1 billion with one government, and a peaceful bunch of people. It is already happening, if not before 12/12/12, as soon as 09/09/09, check it out! http://www.theflucase.com (then research Fema camps, World Health Organization, etc) P.S. The only thing other than God to stop it now would be a mammoth uprising, share! | | | | | | | runningman72 (1075)
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3 years ago
| | Better to be safe rather than sorry. There are many rumors and conspiracy theories. The problem is that most people are sheep and just follow along with whatever the media says, which mind you is controlled by the Rockefellers, the Rothchilds, etc. All of these people love money and power and will stop at nothing to create this New World Order. By the way, the plan is to reduce the world population from almost 7 billion down to around 1 billion with one government, and a peaceful bunch of people. It is already happening, if not before 12/12/12, as soon as 09/09/09, check it out! http://www.theflucase.com (then research Fema camps, World Health Organization, etc) P.S. The only thing other than God to stop it now would be a mammoth uprising, share! | | | | | | | Believers Bungalow Find thousands of inspirational gifts at Believers Bungalow! http://www.believersbungalow.com | add comment | | | |
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