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myLot reputation of 96/100. coffeebreak (7179)   ranked 40 out of 4,346 in have discussion on day to day issues 3 years ago

Alot going on about the Swine flu supposedly coming to destroy the country this winter... so I have to ask...and honestly, please just share medical realities or links to respectable and knowledgable places if you have any. I want to know who says yes it is good and why and who says no don't do it and why

I just watched the local news - they predict 60 million people will DIE this year/season due to the swine flu. Not just contract, but actually DIE. Now first off, how can they predict something like that! I mean...we have never had an outbreak of this before and in the past other flus have not had that impact so how can they predict such numbers?

The first thing the news story mentioned is "there is concern that the media is blowing this way out of proportion". We all know the media blows things out of proportion all the time about everything and I do believe that this is the case here ... to some extent. That is why I want to know what honest intelligent medical "people" or doctors or the CDC actually think the numbers are. They only show a doctor saying basically "get the shot or you will die". But there has got to be info on the other side of the coin.. it can't be that cut and dry... what are they NOT telling us? I have heard it directed to and only directed to children and all about in the schools having the problem... well kids in school are not the only population out there... what about all the adults that work all over and such? I have not heard a single news report where getting this shot focused on any other criteria than a child getting it. Is it not going to effect adults very much...odds are it will but if so.. why are they not telling us about that.. why focus solely on children?


The second thing it said was (about getting the innoculation) that parents are concerned about their child's safeyt, so they will get the inoculation simply cause they are told to for their child's safety or maybe they will just get the injection out of fear of what might happen if they don't. I have heard that the syrum includes mercury - which has been deemed deadly in some cases and in like dental fillings, they don't use the mercury anymore and encourage people that have the mercury silver fillings to get them replaced. So some are saying the innoculation should not be taken as it contains mercury and that could cause more problems than the flu itself or in addition to the flu symptioms.. Anyone heard about this before?

Third thing the news story said was the fact that this particular syrum has been developed WAY to soon and quickly with so very little history of its accuracy or effectiveness... they have no evidence that it is really going to work or if it is going to cause other problems simply cause they just don't know the total capabilities of the syrum.

I have not had the flu or a cold in so long I can't remember when the last time I did have one and I have never had a flu shot...but I hear every single year that so many people that get the standard "flu shot" have the flu off and on nearly the whole winter. They get the shot again next year and again.. flu hits them constantly. I know that a flu shot is literally the flu virus that they inject into a person to help build the immunities within that person..same kind of way they do allergy shots to help allergies. Yet I have yet to meet someone that took the flu shot and didn't have the flu all winter.

Now.. on the other side of the kleenex...if the masses of people believe this and they all get the swine flu shot...they are immune from getting the flu. Can they be a carrier? I dont know... do you? And if they can't carry... that means whatever they come in contact with, they won't get the flu... and they can't give it.. so it stops right there.... making it not the devistation they are proclaiming it to be.

I would appreciate any good sources for learning more about this. I won't take it but I have 2 grand daughters in elementary/preschoo and my 2 kids are both police officers so they are always out and around more slim and scum then I hate to have to think about... so I am asking to collect the info for them. I want to know the goods and bads and "is it worth it" sides of the kleenex box. Thanks for your comments.

 

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pyewacket (12221) response was accepted on 12/19/2010.
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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 498 out of 4,346 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 years ago

Whoa ho! And I thought I wrote a lot...LOL. Okay..first, more people die worldwide of the regular common ordinary strains of flu each year. Two--in 1918 there was also a flu pandemic that killed about 40 million people...but one has to remember there were NO antibiotics then or antivirals to combat it. Then you had the first case of swine flu in 1984 in which once again our marvelous govt urged people to get the vaccine........MORE PEOPLE died of that vaccine than the flu itself and I'm guessing as like now, they didn't test the vaccine long enough...I did a discussion about this three weeks ago

http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2097026.aspx

I had also pointed out if people didn't die of the swine flu vaccine then, they suffered severe health problems for the rest of their lives. My mother knew a customer in the bank she worked for...the customer's daughter got the vaccine and it left her a wheelchair bound cripple the rest of her life

When the first round outbreak of the swine flu occurred earlier this year I happened to be in one of the "hotspots" where the flu broke out...in fact one of he schools that was closed down due to cases of it is only a few blocks away...did I get the flu???..nope

I haven't had the flu since I was eleven...NEVER got a vaccine. My mother also never got the flu save two times...the only two times she DID get the vaccines

I just can't help our govt is blowing this crap out of proportion and creating a fear factor...and guess who are the only ones that comes out the winners though?
The pharmaceutical companies making the flu

And yes, if you read that discussion of mine, ALL flu vaccines contain Thermisol...which is mercury..read the other ingredients of the new swine flu vaccine...now THAT will make you puke...LOL...included in it is the serum made up of diseased organs from the African Green Monkey--also in it is formaldehyde and aluminum


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (12221)   ranked 498 out of 4,346 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

PS--the FDA and CDC is recommending people to get three times more the vaccines..one vaccine for the regular flu and TWO of the swine flu...in my mind way too many. Also, the swine flu vaccine is being made based on the swine flu type that broke out this year...if a newer strain of it comes out in the fall, it will make the vaccines completely useless against the newer strain.


myLot reputation of 96/100. coffeebreak (7179)   ranked 40 out of 4,346 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

Thanks for posting that. I dont know why it didn't come up in the search I did. Very informative....and scary. Thanks

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2. myLot reputation of 96/100. drannhh (9895)   3 years ago

Here is some heavy reading for you:

http://www.vitalearth.org/Flu_Shots.htm

Mercury. Now isn't that just fun.

I just noticed that while David G. Williams is cautioning people against falling for the mercury trap, the largest "vaccine business" (yes, that is what it is all about!) added David J. Williams to their board of directors, so when we try to Google up the first, now the latter comes up. Hah!


myLot reputation of 96/100. coffeebreak (7179)   ranked 40 out of 4,346 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 years ago

Thanks for posting. This is just horrible! Why does the news not ever have stories or talk about this side of the issue!!?!?!? I hate news agencies! You never get the full story. And for some reason,t he one you get is always the horror of horrors... they just aren't telling you that. This is disgusting and I will be passing this (and the one above) along to my kids - they both have little ones.

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