Why Believe in Mother mary?  

What if your father is angry at you? wont you go to your mother & asks her to speak for you?

Only if she is alive but I wouldn't now because she is dead and the Bible says the dead know nothing.

Good point, however even Jesus was also Dead! moreover its mentioned by the disciples that at the time of Mother Marys death of them were there except one & they all saw her going to heaven with her complete body. Well that's the reason why no one could find her body. Imagine how holy she is, that God himself came in her. So its believed by Many that if we pray to her, she can in-turn request to Jesus & hence prayer can be heard sooner.

We have record of Jesus resurrection but this is the first time I heard about Mary's whole body going to heaven. Where can I find that in the Bible? I do know that the Bible talks about Jesus saying to pray in his name and we would be given what we NEEDED.

Isn't praying to her like praying to a middle man? I think you are supposed to pray to one god????? That's why I never understood confession......when u confess your sins shouldn't it be to God?

You are Infact confessing to god itself. Jesus had made it clear that temple is his home so if you confess in a church, according to me, god is Listening to you. what do you think?

There is some logic to your reasoning. The only thing I would have to do is keep a list until I get to the priest or else I would forget some of my sins. Also, I would prefer getting forgiven straight from God and as I need forgiveness every day getting to the priest on time might be a dangerous thing as I wouldn't go every day.

I heard it from the priests that god wont forgive the sins you do intentionally thinking you can confess it later on. So the best thing to do is, don't do what you feel is wrong.

Good for that priest because not all like that, anyway, not where I came from. Some people went in and confessed their sins before they committed them. He is right. I suppose intentional sins grieve away the Holy Spirit and that is one sin that is not forgiven. The Holy Spirit will stop working with the sinner and he will probably stop confessing his sin. Anyway, that is what I am thinking.

Hmmm 'none may come to the father except through me'. well I often wonder, can't the mother of Jesus request to him on behalf of us & hence we can go through to the father easily? (keeping in mind the amount of sins we did)

I find no reference in the Bible to state that Mary can intercede for anyone about anything. In fact, worshipping Mary pretty much is against anything taught in the Bible, in my opinion.

Thou Shall Have No Other God Before Me, don't worship any graven images, yada yada yada...pretty sure that Mary is just another person...no divine birth/daughter of God special privileges...once again, this is what I have understood from when I was a Christian.

Ahah, I completely agrees with you. How ever there is a big difference between worshiping & requesting or praying.

Mary was Jesus' mother alright... but the think is she is only the vessel God used and Jesus was born by the Holy Spirit..Jesus the messaih was not born by a sperm and a ova ..... Hence Mary is not the mother genetically....

FundamentalCharlie, I couldn't have said it better myself! Praying to Mary is not Biblical.

Does the Bible Say to Honor Mary?
Some critics of Marion devotion say that the Bible doesn’t say to honor Mary, and therefore it shouldn’t be done. However, in Luke’s gospel, Mary’s cousin Elizabeth said “Blessed are you among women” and Mary acknowledges this blessing by saying “all generations shall call me blessed” (Luke 1:48). Both women realized that Mary was uniquely blessed because she was entrusted with the honor of carrying God-in-human-form, Jesus Christ, in her womb. She alone was chosen for the highest honor in the history of the world. Catholics understand that if she is special enough for God to honor her, then she is certainly special enough for humankind to honor her too.

Catholics venerate, or honor, Mary in prayer and song. Some people mistake prayer and veneration for worship, but they aren‘t the same thing. Prayer is simply entering into communication with a holy spirit. Veneration is giving special honor to a saint. Worship is for God alone, and Catholics worship only God through the mass

Why Pray to Mary When You Can Go Directly to Jesus?
All good mothers pray for their children and Mary is no exception. If God is our Father, and Jesus is our brother, then Mary is our spiritual mother, and she is very influential with her son. Remember, Jesus worked his first miracle at the wedding in Cana (he turned water into wine) at his mother’s request. When Catholics pray to Mary they are asking her to pray to her son on their behalf because her prayers carry a lot of weight with her divine son.

Another side note:

Have you ever asked your pastor to pray for you…the pastor doesn't turn away by saying, "Don't talk to me! Don't ask me to pray for you! Go straight to Jesus!" The pastor has compassion and "intercedes" (stands in the gap) for him. He prays for the congregation and for individuals. He has compassion and wants to assist people in their relationship with Christ. This in no way diminishes Jesus' role as the Lord and Saviour.

Catholics ask Mary to pray to Jesus for us. She is interceding, kind of in the way a pastor might pray for you or me. Even in the Rosary we ask Mary to "Pray for us sinners." And we think she s quite good at that.

In the movie "The Passion of the Christ," I was floored when I saw Mary at the foot of the Cross. I would like to have that woman pray for me. I ask her to do just that, pray for me.

There is a difference between asking someone to pray for you here on earth and to intercede before God on your behalf. If your priest dies, will you ask him to intercede still? I would think not. Your argument that we ask others to offer intercessory prayer here in this life is flawed.

There is also a difference in asking someone for prayer and praying to them. The Romanish tradition teaches prayer TO Mary.

I know that the Catholic church teaches Jesus, but it also teaches what the Protestant or Evangelical factions would see as non-Biblical, at best, and heretical at it's extreme. I am sure that many people are saved through the Catholic tradition as there is enough truth in it to serve, and God does turn everything to the good, FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM AND ARE CALLED TO HIS PURPOSES.

The persecution of the Christians at the behest of the Popish toadies, (Cardinals, Bishops, etc...), is indefensible. If the Catholic church encouraged the laity to read the Scriptures for themselves there might be an alarming reform within the church, but they don't. In many instances the church does just the opposite, insisting that the laity has neither the capacity to understand, nor the divine calling to read what is considered holy.

God Bless

True that years ago, the church did not encourage members to read the Bible...for fear of misinterpretation. The Church believes the Bible has alot more meaning to what one person may think. Background, history, the understanding of who the Gospel writers were, etc...must be taken into consideration when reading the Bible, and every statement in the Bible should not be taken so fundamentally. There are many paralitical writings that are often misunderstood.

However, the church now encourages everyone to read the word of God. In my life time my eyes were opened by God - the veil was lifted as they say - and am now more convinced of the truth than ever when I read the Bible. The Bible has in no way detered me from the church.

My question to you is: When a family member dies, do you belive that they are in eternity with God? Do you believe that they are with us in spirit? Why can't we talk to them and ask them to interecede on our behalf. Many a saint has gone to Jesus on the behalf of others. Mary is no different. Of course, if you don't believe in Saints then that is another discussion for another day..lol

If by saint you mean the patron saints that the church has decreed, no; I give them no creedence whatsoever. When a human dies, I believe that their spirit goes to be with the Lord immediately, "to be absent the body is to be present with the Lord." In Revelation we see the souls of those martyred for the faith under the altar crying, "how long..." The soul is still waiting for the last day when their resurrection bodies are raised, imperishable.

I do not believe that our departed loved ones are able to return to us, nor speak to us. Father Abraham said to the rich man, "they have the prophets..."

It is inconceivable to me that you can claim no difference between the intercession of Jesus before God, the Father, and the prayer offered to Mary on the behalf of the Popish faithful. You are claiming equal deity for God, the Son, and a mere mortal who has fallen asleep!

Jesus did not regard His mother, Mary, as any more virtuous than any other human. In Matthew 12:48-50 Jesus denies His natural parent and says that those seated around Him were His mother, brothers and sisters thereby making her equal to any of the other disciples. Also, in John 19:26-27, He refers to her only as, "Dear Woman." He did not tell John, "I give to you my mother as the most highly exhaulted..." NO, he only put together two mortal souls to care for one another, something that we are all supposed to do.

Since the Bible is THE WORD OF GOD, and since God is perfect and can make no mistakes, and since God has confirmed all that is written in the Bible through Jesus Christ, how can you even put forth the idea that the Bible can not be interpreted in a strict fundamental sense? God is not capricious. Nor did He say, "Here it is folks, do whatever you like."

While it's true that some of what is written is history and not necessarily condoned by God, the sacrifice of children, multiple wives, cannibalism, etc... If the Bible is properly understood, there is no part of it that God did not mean! That's why my website is titled, The Fundamental Blog, (see profile for the link). I think that fundamentalism has been given a bad rap because it is typically associated by those who advocate the adherence to OT Mosiac law, this completely ignores the new freedom we have been given in Christ.

There is nothing wrong with a fundamentalist's beliefs if those beliefs as based on the Bible. It IS the FUNDAMENTAL instructions of God and any genuine faith must be centered on it's fundamental truth. No twisted interpretations like name it and claim it, no health and wealth baloney, just the genuine word of God, PERIOD!

I love the Roman Catholic church as far as liturgy goes, and I even openly state that were it not for the doctrines, I could be a Catholic. There is something in the reverence held in that church that I believe is unequaled. You can feel it when you walk into the sanctuary! But bowing to the saints at the stations of the cross, prayer to Mary, the assignment of a Pope as God's representative on earth, calling the priest, "father," these are the kinds of things that would never be reconcilable to any Bible believing Christian.

I invite you to visit my Blog, sign up for my E-Mail - Fundamental Updates, and look through the ARTICLE tabbed archives. I am not trying to make you change your faith, I couldn't if I wanted to... but maybe, just maybe, God has brought us to this point so that you might be exposed to the truth of His Word.

Please do not misunderstand, I AM NOT claiming that I have all the answers, I know that I don't, and while there may be some who would say that, "Yeah, he's almost that arrogant!" It would be tongue-in-cheek. I hope you come by and visit, and maybe leave a comment or send me a private e-mail, (CONTACT tab), to share your thoughts.

God Bless

Alphonso Liguori's "glories of Mary" even pointed out that Mary is divine! Whereas only Jesus is divine because He is the Son of God. The word "divine" should only refer to God not to man. To call human divine is merely blasphemy.

Levite...I am not familiar with him; However, we as a Catholic Church do not believe that she is divine...only human. Jesus was both fully divine and fully human.