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Is It Safer to Have an Abortion Than to Give Birth?  email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 2,067 out of 32,962 in life 3 years ago

It is claimed by abortion proponents that abortion is safer than childbirth. They claim 1 death per 100,000 abortions compared to 10 deaths per100,000 deliveries . . . Not True

What is the maternal mortality from childbirth?

Reported average maternal mortality 1979 through 1986 was 9.1 per 100,000 deliveries, having declined from 11 to 7.4. Morbidity & Mortality Report, July 1991, Cent. Dis. Cont., Vol. 40, No. 55-1

If all causes of maternal death, other than those associated with live birth i.e., abortion, tubal pregnancy, molar pregnancy, etc., were excluded. . . . "the maternal mortality for 1985 would be 4.7 deaths per 100,000 live births." "Induced Termination of Preg . . . ," Council on Scientific Affairs, AMA; JAMA, Dec. 9, ’92, Vol. 268, No. 22, p. 3231 147

And the rate has dropped further since the above, but the U.S. Center for Disease Control (see Chapter 17) does not break down their figures. It continues to report a figure for "maternal mortality" that includes abortion and other deaths.

But some mothers do die?

In developed nations, almost never. The National Maternity Hospital in Dublin, Ireland, receives many complicated cases from around that nation and delivers 10% of all births in Ireland. In 10 years (1970-79) it delivered 74,317 births at more than 28 weeks gestation with only one woman dying from a cause related to her pregnancy. J. Murphy et al., Therapeutic Ab., The Medical Argument, Irish Med. J., Aug. ’82, Vol. 75, No. 8

Ed. note: And this report was from two decades ago. Since then medical care has improved substantially.

Abortion Deaths

These have been grossly under-reported. The expose’ on this is detailed in Lime 5 published by Life Dynamics. The author and his staff have verified 23 deaths from induced abortion in 1992-93. All were reported to state agencies. There is documentation from state health departments that 18 were reported to the Federal Center for Disease Control. However, the official report of the CDC listed only 2 deaths. "At Life Dynamics we knew abortion complications were grotesquely under-reported, but attributed it to garden-variety bureaucratic incompetence." But after continuing research, they documented "that the flawed abortion data from the CDC was not from ineptitude but of dishonesty and manipulation" after finding that "a large percentage of CDC employees had direct ties to the abortion industry," they retitled the CDC to stand for "Center for Damage Control" — "The CDC doesn’t oversee abortion, it justifies it." M. Crutcher, Lime 5-Exploited by Choice, Genesis Pub., Chapter 4, "Cooking the Books," p. 135.

The claim that relevant statistics can be collected from the place where the abortion was performed "is little short of science fiction."

"Complications following abortions performed in free-standing clinics is one of the most frequent gynecologic emergencies . . . encountered. Even life-endangering complications rarely come to the attention of the physician who performed the abortion unless the incident entails litigation. The statistics presented by Cates represent substantial under- reporting and disregard women’s reluctance to return to a clinic, where, in their mind, they received inadequate treatment." L. Iffy, "Second Trimester Abortions," JAMA, vol. 249, no. 5, Feb. 4, 1983, p. 588.

What can cause her death?

The main causes are infection, hemorrhage and uterine perforation.

How often do women get infection as a consequence of induced abortion?

A study from one of the most prestigious medical centers in the world, John Hopkins University, reported: "Occurrence of genital tract infection following elective abortion is a well-known complication." This institution reports rates up to 5.2% for first trimester abortions and up to 18.5% in midtrimester. Burkman et al., "Culture and Treatment Results in Endometritis Following Elective Abortion," Amer. Jour. OB/GYN, vol. 128, no. 5, 1977, pp. 556-559.

For the local freestanding abortion facility in your community, with far inferior quality of care, the number of such infections will be at least double that of such a medical center.

"One sequel to abortion can be a killer. This is pelvic abscess, almost always from a perforation of the uterus and sometimes also of the bowel," said two professors from UCLA, in reporting on four such cases. C. Gassner & C. Ballard, Amer. Jour. OB/GYN, vol. 48, p. 716 as reported in Emerg. Med. After Abortion-Abscess, vol. 19, no. 4, Apr. 1977


 

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1. myLot reputation of 62/100. AngryKittyMSV (1913)   ranked 3,523 out of 32,962 in life   3 years ago

I think it's safe to say that childbirth has a far lower mortality rate than abortion FOR THE BABIES.

I nearly died delivering my son, he's two today and an absolute joy to have in my life. If I had it to do over again, I would still bring him into the world, regardless of the risk to me. That is my CHOICE.

Here's the thing about statistics, they can be manipulated to represent whatever point one is trying to make.


myLot reputation of 62/100. AngryKittyMSV (1913)   ranked 3,523 out of 32,962 in life  3 years ago

I am not pro-life, but I am "pro" informing people of the risks involved before ANY major medical undertaking. I think you have done a good job here informing people of the very real dangers that can happen for an abortion, it is something planned parenthood and other abortion providers generally does not bother to do.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 2,067 out of 32,962 in life  3 years ago

Happy birthday to your son! And congratulations to you for your choice.

As for the manipulation of statistics...you are correct. But I'd rather err on the side of life than to err on the side of death.

Plus, we live in a cynical society...don't we? It seems when someone doesn't want to admit to the truth of something, they say they reject the proof. As I said above...I'd rather err on the side of life.

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2. myLot reputation of 76/100. neelianoscet (3123)   ranked 3,060 out of 32,962 in life   3 years ago

I don't care about abortion..I care about the precious life and the tremendous joy babies could bring pleasure to mother and father..no matter the statistics or survey sites proclaim by medical practitioner..abortion in a higher sense is a crimes unless it is unintentional expulsion of the fetus through miscarriage..Pregnancy is dangerous but it could be prevented with earlier medical intervention and having a pre-natal in advance. The risk associated with pregnancy is a real factors which drives fear to women..but it really get a high cost to introduce a newborn in this world..is take a lot of risk, a lot of pain and sacrifices to the side of the mother..despite of this imminent dangers women have continue to give birth to build a complete family..


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 2,067 out of 32,962 in life  3 years ago

I agree that the life of a baby is tremendously joyful thing to experience.

Unfortunately many do not agree with us and I speak as an advocate for those who would be aborted.

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. maximax8 (17670)   ranked 162 out of 32,962 in life   3 years ago

In pregnancy a lady in my home country gets care from a midwife because health in pregnancy is important and a safe delivery is essential. Births can be at home, in a midwife led unit or in a maternity hospital that is consultant led. Not many ladies die from childbirth due to the skill of midwifes and doctors. When my first baby was born I had a retained placenta at home. Then I was sent to hospital to get a manual removal. I had an almost perfect birth with my second child. When my third baby was born I had a severe hemorrhage and nearly died.

I have read about some ladies dying in abortions. In that case both mother and baby die that same day. A lady seeks to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy but she dies. There are lists of ladies that have been killed in abortions like Laura Hope Smith, a American lady, that was 13 weeks pregnant. Infection must be horrible and I have personal experience of heavy bleeding. I know losing two and a half liters of blood I felt really weak. I kept fainting and my body just wanted to have a relaxing sleep after a hard labor.

I have three lovely children: Amber, Leo and Ryan. happy


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 2,067 out of 32,962 in life  3 years ago

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4. myLot reputation of 90/100. bonbon664 (2528)   ranked 1,391 out of 32,962 in life   3 years ago

There you go again looking for articles and stats that support your views.

Here's stats I found to support my view -

How many abortion-related deaths are there each year in the United States?

Between 1990 and 2000, there were between four and 11 deaths related to legal abortion in the United States each year. (41)
How many U.S. women die each year from pregnancy-related causes?

In 2002, a total of 357 women in the United States were reported to have died of maternal causes. The number of maternal deaths does not include all deaths among pregnant women—only those in which the cause reported on the death certificate is related to or aggravated by pregnancy or pregnancy management.

So, the worst thing you could do for women is close down legal clinics, and putting women's lives at risk.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 2,067 out of 32,962 in life  3 years ago

And the rate has dropped further since the above, but the U.S. Center for Disease Control (see Chapter 17) does not break down their figures. It continues to report a figure for "maternal mortality" that includes abortion and other deaths.


THEY CHOOSE TO DO WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR BODIES...THE BABY HAS NOCHOICE.

There you go again...? Of course I would support my own view...as you do yours.


myLot reputation of 90/100. bonbon664 (2528)   ranked 1,391 out of 32,962 in life  3 years ago

My point is, that's it's an emotional issue,it is what it is. You're either pro-choice, or not, and no amount of stats is going to change that. Depending on what side of the issue you're on, you can cherry pick stats to support your view.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 2,067 out of 32,962 in life  3 years ago

I already agreed that stats can be manipulated...I did not agree that mine choice of stats are wrong.

YOu are right...it is what it is. But I will keep plugging along, hoping that someone will listen. happy

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5. myLot reputation of 87/100. riezen30 (589)   3 years ago

Every one has the right to live. God gave life and we shouldn't take it away. The world today is full of corruption that's all. I am pro life.


myLot reputation of 78/100. debrakcarey (2673)   ranked 2,067 out of 32,962 in life  3 years ago

I agree riezen...but then when you reject God anything goes. Man in his infinate ego thinks he can continue to destroy and not BE destroyed.


myLot reputation of 87/100. riezen30 (589)  3 years ago

Yes it is very wrong.

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