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rendellching (19)4 months ago

hi, i really didnt understand how harry potter survived the attack and talked with dumbledore and go back to life? can someone tell me waht hapend? also, how did draco beat dumbledore and got the elder wand?

 
 
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tags:  harry potter, dumbledore, deathly hallows, voldermort
 
1. myLot reputation of 46/100. cbakin20 (152)   4 months ago

This part is just supposed to be an especially magical part of Harry's life. He is, technically, dead...or at least very close to dead. While he is sitting on the edge right between life and death, he is able to talk to Dumbledore who is already dead. Then, after this, Harry realizes that he has to come back to life and save the world...so he does.

Draco never, technically beat Dumbledore. It was Snape who actually killed Dumbledore, Draco just took the credit and took the wand.


myLot reputation of 73/100. Tantrums (946)   ranked 967 out of 1,373 in harry potter  4 months ago

In addition, It was Draco who was planning all year long in how to kill Dumbledore, as it was mentioned in the book, the wand recognizes Draco and not Snape (according to harry though).

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2. myLot reputation of 37/100. Infolancer (160)   ranked 1,372 out of 1,373 in harry potter   4 months ago

Hi,

What the above to have said is definitely close but not exactly.

Answering ur 2nd questions 1st..
In the 6th book When Dumbledore and Harry reached HOgwarts after the horcrux expedition, and were near the astronomy tower, Dumbledore asked Harry to summon Snape.
While Harry was on leaving, they heard some footsteps. Dumbledore knew that there are some intruders and he didnt want harry to be revealed, hence he cast a freezing charm on Harry who was under his invisibility cloak.
Exactly at this moment Draco came to light, he cudnt see harry, he saw only dumbledore and sent a disarm spell to him. As Dumbledore was casting a charm to protect harry, he cudnt defend himself and thus his wand flew off.
Thus Draco defeated Dumbledore and he became the owner of The Elder Charm.


COming to ur 1st question...
Harry Potter was also one of the horcrux of Voldemort. He had 2 souls in him, one his own and one voldemorts which was latched to his scar.
When voldemort used the killing curse, it was supposed to be Harry's end, but instead it killed voldemort's soul, Harry body remained there in the jungle and his soul departed.
But its soul didnt die, cos voldemorts soul died and his soul had a choice either to go back to his body, and be free out of his body. His soul was able to talk with Dumbledore cos Dumbledore was also dead and they had met in heaven, and the small boy who was crying was voldemorts soul.

I have read Harry Potter series many times, even I didnt understand this the 1st time, but when I re read, i understood everything.



Do write back in case if u have not understood any of the above.


myLot reputation of 37/100. Infolancer (160)   ranked 1,372 out of 1,373 in harry potter  4 months ago

Technically it was Draco who defeated Dumbledore, cos in magical world defeat is snatching someone's wand.
Snape never defeated Dumbledore cos Dumbledore had asked Snape to kill him, it was preplanned.
Lets put it this way.... Dumbledore's defeat by Draco ( Draco disarming Dumbledore) was not planned, it was against Dumbledore's will, but Dumbledore getting killed by snape was dumbledore's will, not against his will.

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3. minttyman (8)   4 months ago

Well there is a horcrux inside harry when when Voldemort try to killed harry he destroyed the horcrux instead so harry was sitting on the edge of life and death where dumbledore who died in book 6 was dead so harry could talk to dumbledore. Draco beat dumbledore buy disarming him on the tower near the end of the book using expelliarmus which flicked his wand away he however did not get the elder wand the phsical wand anyway as draco disarmed dumbledore he got the spritual part of the elder wand which later got transferd to harry when harry was in the malfoy mansion and he disarm draco which then meant that harry got the spiritual part. Voldemort got the physical part of the elderwand by stealing it from the tomb of dumbledore.
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4. myLot reputation of 65/100. Revan2009 (214)   ranked 181 out of 1,373 in harry potter   4 months ago

As Infolancer has accurately explained, Voldemort had never been the master of the elder wand.

The Elder wands true master had become Draco when he disarmed Dumbledore against Dumdledore's will whereas Snape was ORDERED to kill Dumbledore. Therefore mastery over the most powerful wand in the world had passed to Draco, not Snape.

Voldemort used the Elder wand to attempt to kill Harry Potter, when Harry Potter was the true master of the wand, as Harry had defeated Draco months before the battle of Hogwarts therefore ownership had passed to Harry.

So the conclusion was entirely predictable:

The Elder wand would've destroyed Harry's soul (Voldy's soul would be untouched since the Elder wand never harms its master) had Voldemort beat Draco months ealier and not Snape.

The simple answer to your question is: the Elder wand can't harm its master which saved Harry's life.

Voldemort had actually killed himself twice LMAO! For such a powerful wizard, Voldy was too ignorant to understand how the Elder wand worked. If he was there personally, he'd have killed Dumbledore and become the master of the wand. If that happened Harry Potter would've ended with Voldemort as the winner.


tjdas83 (97)   ranked 1,313 out of 1,373 in harry potter  4 months ago

Actually Revan 2009, your explanation is true to the last battle between Harry and Voldy inside the Hogwarts castle. Voldy's killing curse backfired because the Elder wand recognized Harry as its true master.
But as for the jungle scene, where Harry faced Voldy wand-less ready for a sacrificial death, Harry's soul was untouched because his mother's sacrifice lingered in both his and Voldy's blood veins. If you remember in Book 4(GoF), Voldy took Harry's blood to regain his body which made Lily's protection inside both of them. Voldy's body keeps Lily's sacrifice alive, so while the enchantment survives in Voldy, in does so in Harry as well. So basically, Harry cannot die if Voldy is still alive. Which i why, only the part of Voldy's soul in Harry gets killed.


myLot reputation of 65/100. Revan2009 (214)   ranked 181 out of 1,373 in harry potter  4 months ago

I'm going to have to disagree: Voldemort is familiar with that protection. If he knew "Harry couldn't die while Voldemort is alive" Voldy would have never attempted to kill him... Dumdledore has already said that Voldemort had overcome the weakness you're are referring to.

No what saved Harry was:

The Elder wand cannot harm its master, and Harry was its master - Something Voldy failed to realize. When Harry told him, he yet again showed that he didn't know anything about the powers of the elder wand.

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5. deepak123cse (76)   4 months ago

When Voldemort cast a killing curse at Harry Potter, he killed the Voldemort inside Harry Potter (Harry is one of the Horcrux). This is what said in the book.
Actually Draco didn't kill Dumbledore. Dumbledore knew that Draco will attempt to kill him, so he asks Snape to kill Dumbledore. Dumbledore planned this to give the elder wand to Snape


deepak123cse (76)  4 months ago

But snape only kill DUmbledore not win Dumbledore, so as Dumbledore died the wand chooses its master as Draco because he is the one intended to battle Dumbledore.


myLot reputation of 65/100. Revan2009 (214)   ranked 181 out of 1,373 in harry potter  4 months ago

Dumbledore intended the powers of the elder wand to die with Dumdledore, for only the master can control its powers.

Ownership cannot pass to Snape because Dumdledore chose his own death and therefore Dumdledore was unbeaten in a duel...

While it was Snape who eventually killed Dumdledore, ownership had passed to Draco: something Dumdledore never intended.

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6. myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (15383)   ranked 5 out of 1,373 in harry potter   4 months ago

you've seen the latest movie? well, right before Dumbledore dies, Draco disarms him, that's how he got the Elder Wand...

and Harry had a choice, when he was lying there "dead" or very nearly, and Dumbledore came to him basically saying that he was the unexpected thing keeping Voldemort alive - but either way, with this "near-death" it was breaking that tie - yes, Voldemort, but so would Harry both come back to life, but they would no longer be tied together.

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7. myLot reputation of 81/100. ilovepiesomuch (115)   ranked 509 out of 1,373 in harry potter   3 months ago

Now as Harry finds out in Severus's.. or rather Professor Snape's.. Memory, that a part of Voldy (Voldemorts) soul was concealed in him the day he tried to kill him. The curse had backfired and Harry's brain was connected to that part and so that gave him the ability to speak to snakes, to look inside Voldemort's mind. They had a connection with the wand also, but that is another topic.. Well anyways, So.. When Voldemort tried to kill Harry while he was in the forest, he.. well.. destroyed the part of soul that was inside Harry, and Harry was still alive.. About Dumbledore.. Just I'm not very sure, that all happend in his head, something about Dumbledore actually telling him about everything, he was like in a dream.

For the Draco part, if you remember, When Draco burst inside the Astronomy tower, he shouted "EXPELLIARMUS" and disarmed Dumbledore.
To win a wand from the owner, he has to defeat the opponent, Draco made Dumbledore wandless, and hence had beaten him in the 'duel'. So, Draco was the owner of the Elder Wand, But Harry had defeated Draco, and then he was the owner of the Elder Wand, But Voldemort did not know this - I think this is one of the many reasons Harry wasn't killed when Voldemort tried that (In the 7th book)

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