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At Last I Watch Water Margin Film Series, Novel that Inspired Suikoden Games  email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 95/100. lordcaocao2025 (825) 3 years ago

Yesterday, At Last I Finished wathing the 43th episode of Water Margin Series. The Film Series is based on Shuihu Zhuàn Novel ( Water Margin ) which also known as Outlaw Of The Marsh

This Movie thought inspired the Suikoden Games, but the story itself is far from the same.

The few thing that this series and suikoden have in common is The 108 Heroes. Thought The Toran Lake ( HQ For Suikoden 1 ) is based on The Lianshang Marsh ( The HQ Of The 108 Heroes from the Novel ).

The story of the series happen at China, in Northen Song Dynasty. At that time, the Court is full with many Corrupt Official, One Of Them Is Marshall Gao.

Marshall Gao and His Gang Frame Many Honest And Loyal officer so he can control The Court.

At Last, Many Of Those who was framed and Who Dont like the corrupt official Join Force With Song Jiang with a purpose to upholding justice, and hopping some day, the Emperor will realise that they are honest and loyal officer, and then they can get enlist again by the court.

What make the series great is Almost All 108 Character have their own story, and u can c they personality develop. And How 1 Character Connect to each other is good too.

No Wonder Suikoden Could be a success Game, it all because of this Novel.

Well, actually many more can be told from this series, but i think for now, it is enough.

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1. myLot reputation of 79/100. forester1985 (379)   3 years ago

I am never playing suikoden games, but I playing some historic chinese games like romance of the three kingdoms, dynasty warrior, and sango2. when I see your review about the films, and you said that the games have a few simillar with the film, I will try to play suikoden now, because it seem interesting.


myLot reputation of 95/100. lordcaocao2025 (825)  3 years ago

Yes, suikoden is an interesting game with magnificant plot. If you want to play the best one, i suggest you to play Suikoden 5 in Playstation 2, or Suikodem 2 On Playstation 1. But if you want to understand the suikoden universe completely, then you must play all of them, thought each series only have litle connection with each other.

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2. myLot reputation of 75/100. tyronie4cash (714)   3 years ago

I played Suikoden 1 and 2, but nothing more coz I don't have PS-2 for the next parts.

Uhmm, Where'd ya watch the series? I think I'll watch this one, haha ^_~

Sounds kewL!


myLot reputation of 95/100. lordcaocao2025 (825)  3 years ago

Suikode 1 and 2 is a great game in Playstation 1. I watch water margin series in a site called indowebster. But the site ( i think ) only accesible from indonesia. If you play suikoden 1 then you will know that many aspect in suikoden 1, is try to follow water margin novel.

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3. Snievan (17)   3 years ago

Hello i'm new here..nice to meet you..^^

Wow a novel that inspire Suikoden...
It is kinda interesting for me. I've a lot question for you..^^
Did water margin novel tell story that really are the same with suikoden series?
Also is the leader actually a little kid?:p..Did 27 true rune exist there?and can you tell is more about it friends?

thnkyou very much for your answer..


myLot reputation of 95/100. lordcaocao2025 (825)  3 years ago

Well the novel actually only inspire suikoden. There is actually only small part that the game really copy, like lianshang marsh really are resemblance of the Toran Castle. Also the 27 true rune doesn't really exist in this game. And yes friend nice to meet you, i too hope we will have a great discussion.


Snievan (17)  3 years ago

Oh i see..
so the novel only loosely based on the story?Also is the main story the same?
I assume the Suikoden I is the only one based on the story(CMIIW).
and emmm..sorry my friend, you not yet answer my first quiestion about did the leader is also a kid(or maybe a young man) Like most suikoden games, well excluding geddoe and chris off course.:D:D


myLot reputation of 95/100. lordcaocao2025 (825)  3 years ago

O sorry, i kinda have too much spirit to reply that i miss that question. Well the leader in Water Margin is actually an old man, he is i think the most oldest man in the group ( well he have senior, but the senior is not including in 108 heroes ). And yes the novel really are loosely based, and the story is far from the same. Are you enjoying suikoden games too? Thanks for replying.


Snievan (17)  3 years ago

Ahahha..it's alright. THnks for the quick reply.
So the leader is actually an old man. lol. Anyway, yes i enjoy playing suikoden. I play all the series, from 1 to 5. I play it in PS 1 and also PS 2.
But i don't really play suikoden tatctic, i think the graphics is bad and the game play is less fun(IMO). Did you play the game too?


myLot reputation of 95/100. lordcaocao2025 (825)  3 years ago

Yes, actually i play the game too. All of the 5 series, from suikoden I and II in playstation 1, also Suikoden III, IV and V in Playstation II. And i might said that i am agree with you, i don't really enjoy suikoden tactic. I actually doesn't really like Suikoden IV too, but still it is better than tactic. How about you? Do You think Suikoden IV is bad too?


Snievan (17)  3 years ago

How do i say it..hmm..
well i can't said that suikoden IV is bad. It's kinda just too short for me.
It tooks me less than 35 hour i guess to complete the game, also there are many missing plot in the story(too bad).

The 4 char party idea also pretty stupid i think since they have 108 character.lol. And the war..is so bad, i don't really like the war in suikoden IV.


myLot reputation of 95/100. lordcaocao2025 (825)  3 years ago

Yes, i agree with you. Suikoden IV is too short, with many missing plot. It also have less fun in game play since it loose many special thing that the previous game have like skill, 6 player sistem. And yes, it has the worst war system the suikoden ever have. The Suikoden tactic actually an extended version of suikoden series, but i think it is also fail because many doesn't seem to like the game play its offer.


Snievan (17)  3 years ago

Yes agree..
btw back to water margin novel...ehehehe
How the hero actually recruit all the people, are they simply join from the start?
or more like recruiting in game, where the heroes recruit them one by one. And did all of this character have their story, or simply focus of the hero only?


myLot reputation of 95/100. lordcaocao2025 (825)  3 years ago

Well the story actually not focus on the main chacarter for a while. It is focus on a few character with meet with other character that later will join the 108 heroes. The leader actually very un expected since the series doesn't really have much focus on him the first time he show up.

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