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LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers1 month ago

What do you feel about cloning people? I guess you already know they're cloning sheeps (Dolly was first), hamsters, cats, dogs and all sort of other animals. People actually clone their pets so that when they die they can replace them.
What are your feelings about that? Would you clone your pet? Or your mother, or boyfriend, or child?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 95/100. marguicha (3464)   ranked 89 out of 19,055 in questions & answers   1 month ago

I think it´s terrible and it should be against the law everywhere. I can´t imagine any valid reason to do it.I don´t know if that would save people from starving, but I doubt it. As for cloning a pet or a human being, it sounds like a horror movie. It is not only genes that make a person or an animal. There are other things that are unique and can´t be done by cloning.
I am not a religious person, but towards cloning, I think it´s a sin.
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LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

Do you think that it's possible that your resentment comes from the fact that we don't know much about the subject? Cause 500 years ago, Leonardo daVinci had to cut corpses secretly at night so that no one finds out because people thought this is a sin. But still, medicine evolved mostly because of people who broke the sin barrier.

I mean, I wonder what will people think about cloning 500 years from now. Would they be scared of that? Or maybe it's gonna be something normal?


pallinoo (6)  1 month ago

Even for me is the same thought. I am against the cloning of human beings. Why? simple! I don't see much utility in cloning. Who in the past dissected cadavers in secret at least he did it for real utility. This utility was to know the human body to be able to cure. But why clone? I don't conceive..


LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

Well, pallino, it could be because clones can be used for replacing organs for people who need them (we all know that human beings don't like to donate their bodies not even after death). Don't you think?

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2. myLot reputation of 98/100. mama_bear (602)   ranked 420 out of 19,055 in questions & answers   1 month ago

from the standpoint of conservation i would say that it is not a good plan. the earth is already struggling to maintain the current population. adding more will not make it better, there are already others out there who are procreating. if cloning replaced procreation as a means to propergate the species, then i guess that it would be okay.i don't however believe that there would be equal cloning rights for all, some would be more inclined to be cloned than others, for example, genetically superior individuals, those that won the genetic jackpot. they would have permission to clone at will. there is also the problem of disposable lives, the lives of clones might not be valued as much as those of the non-cloned variety, also the more times you make a copy of something, the more inferior it becomes. cloned individuals might not have as much of a life span, depending on how long it would take to get them from testube to maturity. if this process time is shortened then their life spans will be short too. and yes i have given cloning a lot of thought, being the fan of sci-fi that i am.


LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

Cloning is already being used for species that are disappearing, which indeed might be a god thing, since there are so many nowadays. Could be a good solution, although we don't really know yet if there are any dangerous side effects on a long term.
And yes, I do agree with you. In my opinion, the worst part about cloning is people's reaction to it. They will exclude human clones, forgetting that we created them and that they have a soul. Which might mean that mankind isn't ready for this step, yet.


myLot reputation of 98/100. mama_bear (602)   ranked 420 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

that's right, i have no problem with cloning animals for food.

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3. myLot reputation of 96/100. ybong007 (825)   ranked 1,728 out of 19,055 in questions & answers   1 month ago

It's just like playing God. Imagine if you are given the power to create life according to your designs. This would probably work for those who can afford it the only setback is people will no longer appreciate life as it is since a replacement is readily available.


myLot reputation of 82/100. starsailover (850)   ranked 3,162 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

Hi ybong007: I don't see the dilemma as people "playing god". This is a problem abou ethics. If they clon persons respecting the dignity of the human being that will be created i think there's nothing wrong with it. When a medical center make a caesarian operation they play god, because this little baby was supposed to die


LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

ybong, i take it you don't want to be God. It's hard for me to believe that there really is someone on this planet who doesn't want to be God (at least for a day), but I won't argue with you. My question is: why do you think that cloning means playing God? Isn't planting seeds for a plant to grow playing God? Or getting pregnant and giving birth to a baby? Or creating a fabulous and fascinating piece of art?

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4. myLot reputation of 83/100. VVroom (141)   ranked 6,538 out of 19,055 in questions & answers   1 month ago

Cloning is like everything else in our world. Good and bad. And it cannot be good without being bad in the same time. This is our polarized world with up and down, black and white, yes and no, male and female, yin and yang, good and bad. Any major step in human knowledge had created monsters and angels. Cloning is not and will not be different. It doesn't matter the public debate and our opinions. If there will be a need for it, it will happen, no matter what we are saying. And as long as we are living in a world of forms, where we got so used to spend impressive amount of money on things we don't really need, cloning can look very attractive to a lot of people. The simple process of thinking about it will become soon a 'need'. And then, it's a matter of money until we will see history repeating.


LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

True. So true that I don't have anything to add.
Except for the question: would you clone yourself now? (Now as in the immediate future, not this moment) Or rather now as in this stage of human cloning research.


myLot reputation of 83/100. VVroom (141)   ranked 6,538 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

No. I don't need a clone of myself. I am anyway a hard to handle person so, really, there' s no need for more than one me:) Therefore, I wouldn' t do it. ... How about you, Lightwarrior? How many of you's do you reckon you would like to have and why?
Btw I have just thought about what to do with a clone. And I am sure cloning will be illegal until the end of days:))


LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

Hahaha! I just imagined my clone wondering through my wardrobe!! I'm pretty sure that's the first thing she'll do!!:)) I don't want to clone myself, but I've tried to picture what I'd feel if someone would clone me and I'd meet myself on the street. And I can only come up with some ideas without really knowing what I feel until it would actually happen.

But please, tell me what use did you find to your clone that made you think it would be illegal till the end of days?

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5. jwpseno (24)   ranked 2,594 out of 19,055 in questions & answers   1 month ago

I think there is nothing wrong with cloning. Cloning is actually done by other living things before human was able to do so, see here: www.timeshighereducation.... . I think that it is just because humans are arrogant and selfish. They think of other species as not important at all and it seems that anything can be done to them by us humans but they cannot do anything to us. Cloning, deadly test and other experiments, they approve it to be done to animals. If humans accepts cloning of other species, then why not accept cloning to done to humans too.


LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

I'm saying the same thing. We all know that people don't care about anything but them, their family, friends and (maybe, not in all cases) co-nationals. That's the big problem with cloning these days. Uninformed humans' reaction to the subject.

 
6. myLot reputation of 71/100. bird123 (1108)   ranked 3,805 out of 19,055 in questions & answers   1 month ago

Cloning is a good thing. It will allow doctors to make spare body parts like a heart without creating an entire person. God has given us all the answer to this long ago. Isn't an identical twin no more than a clone?? We are all spiritual beings trapped in a physical body. You can copy a body but God will put a different person inside. If man were to go crazy and start cloning everyone, God would send a plague. This would not be to punish us. It would be to show us the need for diversity.The way kids are born today creates great diversity. That has given man his staying power through all the diseases in this world. A totally cloned world would not survive because it could not evolve or change when needed.


LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

I tend to agree with you, although I can see the downside of cloning too. For me, it's not entirely good, nor entirely bad either. And I'm not sure that a totally cloned world would not survive, why do you think it could not evolve or change when needed?

 
7. myLot reputation of 92/100. lealuvy2j (312)   ranked 2,171 out of 19,055 in questions & answers   1 month ago

This is really a controversial topic but as for me cloning people is very disagreeable because I really do believe that God is the only One who has the right to give life and take life. But Medicine has a good point though but if they can clone organs, I would not disagree with this because I think this will be more of a compromise and will help a lot of sick people.


LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

If you look at this sentence: "God is the only one who has the right to give and take life", don't you immediately find a number of examples that prove it wrong? And if God is the only one who can give rights, don't you think that the man discovering how to clone is God's will?


myLot reputation of 83/100. VVroom (141)   ranked 6,538 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

Good point, Lightwarrior.

 
8. myLot reputation of 88/100. Fulltank (988)   ranked 606 out of 19,055 in questions & answers   1 month ago

Anything that was invented or to be invented is for the good of humanity. The only problem is that when this invention is in the wrong hands. Atomic bomb for example is used to bring us more electricity and not for the destruction of human lives. Cloning is I think good when it is used for good. Say, a patient is dying from an internal organ failure and can only be saved by transplanting a cloned organ. I think thats good. But if cloning is used to harm people, them it becomes a bad thing.

Another thing is that, religious groups are against it as its not within the law of the Bible. Anyway science and religion is a never ending discussion.


LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

Yes, my thoughts almost exactly.:)))
Depending on the angle from which you look at the "situation" you see one truth or the other (that would be the good side or the bad side). This works for ANYthing else, from wondering whether you should go to that college, take that job, marry that guy, have kids when you're 20, etc. All of these situations and every other situation in our lives has a good side and a bad side.


myLot reputation of 83/100. VVroom (141)   ranked 6,538 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

I guess anything used for good will do good. And anything used for bad will become bad. And, indeed, depending who's observing. Al Qaida ( if it is for real) and Obama, for sure have different opinions about what's good and what's bad. A lot of people think that God is the good one and the Devil is the bad one. Some other think they are the same. And others are just thinking that we need new standards. And a few people understood that everything is good and bad in the same time. If it looks good now, it contains the potential of becoming bad sometime. And the reverse. Yin and Yang. Our polarized and magnificent world where the balanced between 2 extremes should always be maintained on zero if you want peace. And humans need knowledge. And they HAVE to learn the dark side to realize the existence of the good side. So, I guess it is inevitable to have both the angels and the demons as results of legalizing human cloning.


myLot reputation of 88/100. Fulltank (988)   ranked 606 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

Very well-said vvroom. Amen to that.


LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

I bet you're a Star Wars fan, VVroom! And I'm pretty sure you know which pill (blue or red) you should pick also!:)) Thanks for the input, zen master! And, as Fulltank said, Amen to that!


myLot reputation of 83/100. VVroom (141)   ranked 6,538 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

I'm a Matrix fan too. Did you know it is based on an ancient hindu tale?


LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

No, I didn't. But I suppose the ancient hindu didn't imagine machines taking over human reality. Or did they?

 
9. blackwrfromfts (3)   1 month ago

cloning would only be acceptable if a species was going extinct. . other than that we dont need to be cloning human . .there is all ready too many as it is. .

 
10. myLot reputation of 91/100. happy6162 (1968)   ranked 2,529 out of 19,055 in questions & answers   1 month ago

I think that cloning should only be used for organ donations. There is such a long list of people who need organ transplant and if they can clone and get the organ they need to save a life than I think it is good. I do not think cloning should be done to replace a pet or human being that has died.


LightWarrior (69)   ranked 2,511 out of 19,055 in questions & answers  1 month ago

It's one of the best applications of cloning, in my opinion. I wouldn't have any problem living with a cloned organ in my body and I think most of the people wouldn't when facing the possibility of death. They're against it now, but when they'll realize this is the only way to survive, they wouldn't think twice, as much virulent as they might be now.

 
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