DEATH! What is it? Do we really e affraid of this? Why?

Your Belief.

Is that your belief make you happy each day? I think how lonely it is. You don't have that belief to hope for eternal life! I think you're just enjoying the rest of your life! To make yourself happy, you are enjoy the wealthyness of earthly things. Enjoying night life, drowning yourself to alchohol each time you're down. Don't you ever think for the sacrifice made for you to have a chance of salvation?

Save from what!

If you are in cliff nearly to fall and someone render his hands for you to be save, and you resisted it beacause you don't know that person you think you will be save. It's just like that! You are not fighting for your belief as it is your principle, but you know, it's just your pride that separates you into salvation. Pride can't save you!

Why God! Where is that God!

You want to see God? So did you seek Him? I have a question, in your situation right now, can you see your brain? No of course right? But you believe you have a brain. You want to see it so that you will really believe? Break your head!
That analogy clearly states not all cannot be seen means unbelievable!

God is exesting! You can't see Him because your not worthy for His Holiness. But we can feel His comfort. Don't you ever ask yourself who made the balance of nature so that all living things will live?
We are just victims of SIN and he wants to redeem you!

It's not too late brother...
He is just waiting for you...

Im sorry but i do not drown myself in alcohol.
And you are very unwilling to see others opinions.
I do not reject the possible existence of god i just don't have the proof of him. it is a new age and i do not need gods so called salvation. i am not lonely in my beliefs. i do believe in a life after death just not the same life you see. in my beliefs, people like you, people who try to force religion on others. you are the one whos really sinning.

Forcing my belief? Is that what you see in your naked eye? Is that waht you think with your wholesome mind?
For my belief gives me the oppurtunity to tell it to others.

I sinned, just like walking in the darkness. But I saw light! There's one who gave me. I went to it so that I can lighted my way. But it's not only what happend, He guided me so that the light I bring will not be vanish with my life. And as walk in a bright way, I saw so many people still walking in the darkness! And that light bringer told me to share my light to others who have not. And I'm doing it. Many accepted and it and was enlightened. I thought all people wants a bright way. I was wrong, for as many accepted it, but twice rejected it.
I done everythng to reach them but still they refuse! So I said I'm done. They don't want the light.

I have all the light i need thank you.

Nicapol, I liked the way you told our saviour, the one with the light off. This people who are too obsessive in their belief tend to think and feel that they are God sent to man and God's gift to man. Keep up the good work, Nicapol!!! These numbskulls need people like you to awaken and enlighten them!!!!

We humans assigned to tend God's creature before us. But what human did? Accepts the will to committ sin. And other living things were affected.
In such situation, you are a servant, and your master told you to tend his things before live and he'll come back sooner. But you choose to live a free life! You did not tend the things your master told you. And your master came back, and will ask you, "Where are the things I've tended from you?" What will be your answer?

Jimple where did you learn all these? Did you do astral travelling or have out of the body experiences that gave you the knowledge that you so bravely speak of and disseminate? We are not stupid to accept any form of crap and nonsense from someone who wants us to accept his/her views. Period.

Speakeasy has a point here. Did plants and animals sin??? What do you say to this, Jimple???? Give your answer!!!!!

Jimple27 - did you read the part where I wrote - "live your life the best you can and try to leave the world a better place."

If you do that, you ARE tending to all of his creatures.

I think you are getting this "idea" from the story of Adam and Eve being driven out of the Garden of Eden.

Yes, they were driven out of the garden for disobedience; BUT, the story leaves out a lot of things - according to religious teachings; Adam and Eve only had sons; but, those sons married other people and raised families. So, Adam and Eve could not have been the only people that were created. But, these other people are not mentioned until they marry into the "family".

Also, the story of Adam and Eve does not say the animals in the Garden were driven out too. Only Adam and Eve were driven out into the rest of the world!

If you are not referring to the Adam and Eve cration myth - which one are you referring to?

Pose 123, you are absolutely correct. Each of us have our own belief of life and death. Jimple should leave others to theirs and not infringe on their beliefs. Jimple appears to be dogmatic in his/her approach and trying to instill his/her beliefs on others. Jimple appears to be fearing death. Why????? Everything living has to die. This is the circle of life..... We humans are a part of this circle of life and must learn to accept it and not blame it on sins. Apparently Jimple appears to be a Christian who has the concept that humans have sinned. If we have not sinned where would we be???? In Heaven or in Hell??????

As usual a good response from Pose123."Live life to the fullest, treat others the way you want to be treated and never fear death". I hope jimple27 reads this and understands it.

Have you ever guys read any phrase in the Bible? Or you are just reading a book made by by our fellow men which you believe as your God?

Do I'm instilling by belief in here? Or you guys finding yourselves to be instilled with the truth?
You have your free will right? You can choose to be good and you can choose to be bad. And the question is, have you receive that will?

You can feel pain right? You may die at any time. And why those are happening or will happen? Is that our choice? Do not exclude yourself in sin. We are sinners! But One came to redeem us again. Is your belief did came to save you from sin?

Afraid of death? I am not afraid of death! Yes you're right! We will experience death. We will experience death! That's a fact right? So, that all? death is in us? We will die! that's it?

In our belief we believe that we conquered death, as a man already conquered death already! He shown that we should not be afraid of death because it is just an example of long time sleeping. And as He promised us, He will return us to life again. And by doing the task he left for us, it's His will for us to be in paradise again.

All nature we see is innocent! In short, we are all victims of this cruel world. Why this is cruel? It's too obvious right?

I have a question, Why do all livings things has a defensive mechanism?
There are plants with thorn, animals with fighting skills and many more. Why that thing existed?

Do you think the Bible is the only way to God? If so you are an ignorant fool. I have no time for ignorance at the level you are in Jimple. Go read other books apart from the Bible. Then only will you understand what we, here, are talking about. Do not be too defensive of the Bible. It only shows your weakness and lack of knowledge.....

You seem to insult other forms of worship. How can you say that the Bible is written by God? Were you a witness to this writing of the Bible, that you can say the books written by others are written by man worshipped as God? Do not utter ridiculous nonsense. I feel you and others who think the way you do, should all find a place in the mental asylum, the best place for people like you to be in. Probably you will meet your God there.....

Yes that's right! We all be dependent from the word of God He left on us. HE is the author of all! He is not like us but still we will be bound to each other that's through the His Son Jesus who came to save us! It's all upon us if we will accept His offer and will share it to others.

1hopefulman, can you clarify your last sentence, quote, 'Until then, with the exception of a few...........'unquote. Thanks.

To: Shobhan51
I would like to quote "you are an ignorant fool","Do not be too defensive of the Bible. It only shows your weakness and lack of knowledge"

You're telling me that I'm so defensive in my part? Don't you ever look at what's happening to here in this DISCUSSION? Yes! for me this is just a discussions! Don't you know the that simple word? You maybe link yourself of what you say "lack of knowledge". It's too obvious in your part.

Of what you read from your book authored by our fellow men, your reaction on this discussion barely shows what your teachings is all about. You and your fellows are not OPEN MINDED! You are just sticking in your own thoughts which are barely common to us. Your thinking of you're a knowledgeable person than of others right("it only shows your lack of knowledge" as what you've said)? Well, in our principle we don't need knowledge as what you are aspiring of. Because our true knowledge came from WISDOM which is a gift from our Lord! You know wisdom right?

"For true knowledge is a virtue of WISDOM"
It's the truth! Find the truth shobhan, find WISDOM in your life!

shobhan51, I'll be happy to elaborate!

From my study of the Scriptures I see that there are at least three kinds of resurrections.

1) The temporary resurrections performed throughout Bible history. Example related in Matthew 9:18-26 (New International Version)

18While he was saying this, a ruler came and knelt before him and said, "My daughter has just died. But come and put your hand on her, and she will live." 19Jesus got up and went with him, and so did his disciples.

23When Jesus entered the ruler's house and saw the flute players and the noisy crowd, 24he said, "Go away. The girl is not dead but asleep." But they laughed at him. 25After the crowd had been put outside, he went in and took the girl by the hand, and she got up.

All resurrections performed by the prophets of old, or Jesus, or the apostles were of a temporary nature, meaning that the people though raised to life eventually died again.


2) The resurrection that would take place on the last day when billlions would be resurrected. Martha had this belief as seen here. This is a resurrection to life on earth

John 11:23-26 (New International Version)

23Jesus said to her, "Your brother will rise again."

24Martha answered, "I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day."

25Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; 26and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"


3) The resurrection to heavenly life which is limited to a small number that would actually rule over the earth with Jesus.

Revelation 20:4 (New International Version)

4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Revelation 5:9-10 (Young's Literal Translation)

9and they sing a new song, saying, `Worthy art thou to take the scroll, and to open the seals of it, because thou wast slain, and didst redeem us to God in thy blood, out of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation,

10and didst make us to our God kings and priests, and we shall reign upon the earth.'

1 Corinthians 15:50-57 (Young's Literal Translation)

50And this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood the reign of God is not able to inherit, nor doth the corruption inherit the incorruption;

51lo, I tell you a secret; we indeed shall not all sleep, and we all shall be changed;

52in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, in the last trumpet, for it shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we -- we shall be changed:

53for it behoveth this corruptible to put on incorruption, and this mortal to put on immortality;

54and when this corruptible may have put on incorruption, and this mortal may have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the word that hath been written, `The Death was swallowed up -- to victory;

55where, O Death, thy sting? where, O Hades, thy victory?'

56and the sting of the death [is] the sin, and the power of the sin the law;

57and to God -- thanks, to Him who is giving us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ;

Yes guys it is! God Jesus overcame the DEATH! So that He promise us to leave again with no more death! No more sorrows, no more nights, no more tears, never crying again.

Just like this song in titled "No More Nights"

I
The timeless theme,
earth and heaven will pass away
It's not a dream,
god will make all things new that day!
Gone is the curse from which we stumbled and fell
Evil is vanish to eternal hell

Cho:
No more nights, no more pain
no more tears, never crying again
And praises to the great "I AM"
We will live in the lights of the risen Lamb

See all around, now the nations bow down to sing
The only sound is the praises to Christ our King
Slowly the names from the book are read
I know the King so there's no need
No need to dread

No more nights no more pain
No more tears, never crying again.
And praises to the great "I AM"
We will live in the lights of the risen Lamb

Bridge:
See over there there's a mansion that prepared
for me!
Where I will live with my Savior eternally

And there no more nights! No more pain!
No more tears! Never crying again!
And praises to the great "I AM"!
We gonna live!
We gonna live in the lights,
of the RISEN LAMB!

That's a simple song really reminds us how nice to live with our Savior!

The song does say it all. Wished I knew the melody.