Gays Adopt Children Just So They Can Abuse Them.....

@LadyMarissa (12148)
United States
November 3, 2009 11:54am CST
Let me start by apologizing to ALL my gay friends!!! I went to lunch with a friend of mine. I know she thinks the gay population is evil & automatically condemned to hell. We have NEVER been able to have a rational discussion on the topic of homosexuality. She won't open her mind & I REFUSE to close mine!!! We used to work for the same company where one of receptionists was a Lesbian & married her partner. Well, actually, they had a commitment ceremony as they aren't allowed to get married. During lunch last week, she asked if I had heard from my Lesbian friend. She thinks I'm going to hell because I refuse to condemn homosexuals & actually have the audacity to befriend them. I took the opportunity to point out that, even though she felt they were living in sin, she should acknowledge that they had been married & faithful to each other for over 5 years...something that most hetero couples couldn't boast (including her). She looked me in the eyes & said...you know, God told me last night that the gays adopt children just so they can abuse them & that just makes me sick. I asked her if she had lost her freaking mind as God wouldn't say such a thing. Then she asked me why gays would want to adopt a child as they didn't need them. I asked her if she was so ignorant that she truly believed that it was impossible for gays to love a child just like she loved hers. I pointed out that most pedophiles are NOT gay, but are in reality heterosexuals. She challenged me to prove my point. I know I have seen research on this, but have been unable to find it. Can anybody help me locate this statistic??? I know she will just change her reason for closing her mind again, but I won't give up on proving my point!!! We're going to lunch again on Friday & I would like to have this information with me when I meet her!!!
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10 responses
@littleowl (7157)
4 Nov 09
Hi Lady M, Wish I could help you out with statistics, but am not sure what they are myself even though I have heard about this myself. As my so is gay and my sister, plus I have gay friends my view on them has always been a positive one, as for going to hell, actually I don't believe in hell and if there is such a place think it is here on earth where there are so many other horrific things that happen...plus if we are God's children as it says he is a god of love and made us in his own image, so he must of gone wrong somewhere in letting gay people here too! Nothing is ever perfect!...LoLo
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
4 Nov 09
My thoughts exactly God has made us all so he made them to
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@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
5 Nov 09
WELCOME BACK LITTLEOWL!!! Long time, NO see!!! My first husband didn't believe in hell either. He said being condemned to live on earth was living in hell & we were kept here until we learned our lesson. He felt God gave each of us a path to walk & our souls travel from one body to the next until we learn what we were sent her to learn. Once we learn our lesson, our soul leaves the earthly body & travels to Heaven. That goes against everything I was taught, but it did make sense to me. I never could believe that God would send anybody to hell, so I prefer to believe that living here on earth is living in hell!!!
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@Louc74 (620)
4 Nov 09
Ok, I know it's childish, and petty, but here's a plan: next time you're out for lunch with this woman, tell her you came across a study which showed that 95% of people who objected unreasonably and fiercely to gay relationships are actually gay themselves. (There isn't one that I know of, by the way - I just think ignorant people should be noised up whenever possible!) Then ask her if she's a closet lesbian.
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@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
4 Nov 09
I know you meant that in jest, but studies show that to be a true fact. The louder somebody objects, the more likely they are to join the lifestyle. Think back over the years at the members of Congress who yelled the loudest that have since come out of the closet whether intentionally or unintentionally. Then there's Jimmy Swaggert who raised his voice against immorality (not just against the homosexual community) & then was caught being as immoral as anybody he was condemning. I was raised to beware of those who protest too much. As it seems they fear their own desires!!! I seriously doubt my friend has lesbian tendencies, but I do think she fears her thoughts for whatever reason. I've always felt she had the right to feel what she was feeling, but she pushed it too far when she stretched it to say gays adopt children in order to abuse them. Now I must educate her so she can look at things differently.
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• United States
3 Nov 09
People like this drive me crazy. They're quite delusional. My favorite thing ever is when they counter anything that you say that goes against their ideals is with, well god spoke to me last night and he told me this. And whatever they tell you is so far fetched, so crazy that any rational person wouldn't believe it but they're just hoping to get someone to believe them. It's like taking sides. Personally I would have dropped her a long time ago. It's not worth fighting for friendship with someone that thinks you're going to hell and thinks that you're crazy. It bugs me whenever they condemn someone that lives a better, more moral life than they do all because they think god likes them better.
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@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
4 Nov 09
OMG, she is such a GREAT friend in so many ways, dropping her is NOT an option!!! She is entitled to her opinion. It just this particular opinion is so far out there, I want to educate her as to her ignorance. We've had many heated discussions on gay rights, but this was the first time she's ever pulled the "God told me last night..." out of her head. Maybe once she started the debate, she changed her mind & just wanted me to shut up. It worked...temporarily!!! Now for round 2...
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@skysuccess (8857)
• Singapore
3 Nov 09
LadyMarissa, Your friend is certainly quite a wild fiery character if I might just say here and I doubt if any points you might have at the end of the day will really convince her to your camp. However, in view of gays adopting children, really have me thinking on how they will be brought up. I just cannot help ponder on issues like - Will they be brought up to become like them and live a homosexual life? Will they have a disorientation as far as sexuality is concerned? How are they going to relate to children who have normal parents? So, in this light I feel that your friend's argument may hold half truths here.
@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
3 Nov 09
Will they be brought up to become like them and live a homosexual life? Using your logic, we'd have NO homosexuals!!!! Look around you....heterosexuals had EVERY homosexual child ever born. Were these children not brought up to become like them & live a heterosexual lifestyle??? YES. Did it take??? NO!!! Why, you might ask??? HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A LIFESTYLE...IT IS HOW THEY WERE CREATED BY GOD!!! Contrary to what my friend claims to believe, the devil does NOT have the ability to create human life. Once again using your logic, a family has 8 children & ONLY 1 is gay. Was the gay child not raised the same way as the straight child??? Therefore, having heterosexual parents does NOT stop a child from being gay....So, having homosexual parents will NOT make a child gay!!! Will they have a disorientation as far as sexuality is concerned? NO!!! Why you might ask??? Could it be that they grow up with an OPEN mind as to sexuality. I have NEVER heard a homosexual say that it is WRONG for a man & a woman to be married & have children. Looking at it from your point of view, is it not the heterosexual parents who are abusing their child by insisting that there is NO other way to feel but the way they feel??? How are they going to relate to children who have normal parents? Normal parents??? What, pray tell, is a normal parent. Waking up every day is normal. Going to sleep every night is normal. Loving your partner & child is normal. So, it sounds to me as though homosexual parents are as normal as anyone!!! I have homosexual friends with children. Their children are polite & kind & they have manners...very much unlike the children of many heterosexual couples. They love Mommy & Mommy (or Daddy & Daddy) just like the heterosexual couples do. I've NEVER heard one of them make fun of a child with a heterosexual couple for parents. Half truths aren't enough proof in my eyes. The same arguments can easily be applied to heterosexual parents. So, are you saying that EVERY parent on the face of the earth is abusing their child??? NO, I didn't think so!!!
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@littleowl (7157)
4 Nov 09
Lady M I AGREE with every word you have said..as in my comment I will repeat I am a heterosexual, but have GAY son, he did not CHOOSE to be this way he was born that way..yet I love him to bits and he is one of the most polite, thoughtful, caring people I know as well as my heterosexual frends I have GAY frinds who are nicer than my how my heterosexual friends can be at times. The other thing is I NEVER brought my Son up or taught him to be homosexual either...LoLo
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@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
5 Nov 09
WELCOME TO MYLOT KITTYKAT!!! Thank you for understanding what I'm trying to say!!!
3 Nov 09
Hi LadyM, This friend of your is off her rocker and very ignorant to boot, "God spoke to me" what?that in itself sound as though she is crazy, hope you can find what you are looking for, just to prove the point with her, good luck. Tamara
@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
3 Nov 09
I've found 3 different studies that prove my point!!! God ALWAYS talks to this girl when she wants to prove her point!!! The Bible says "Love thy neighbor as thyself." NOWHERE does it add "unless they are gay!!!"
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• United States
5 Nov 09
Amen!
• Mexico
3 Nov 09
Hi Lady Marissa: Unfortunetly i don't have these information but i thin you're right. Maybe i don't think everything gay people do is right i respect they and how they feel. I think God's love and he's the only one that can judge people, i don't like these divisions if a gay or lesbian person is good to me and he/ she doesn't do inmoral things or act in some ways that are really inmoral i can be his/her friend. Simply, hope you can deal with your "friend" for your next lunch time. I'm glad to read your opinion about the subjet. Have a nice day.
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@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
4 Nov 09
I'm not expecting her to accept everything about the gay lifestyle. However, I am asking her to NOT make up statistics just to prove her point!!! When I recovered from my shock & attempted to engage her once again, she challenged me to prove my point. So, I'm searching for facts & figures to prove my point. I've had several people PM me with links yesterday that not only backed up my point that her thinking is just plain WRONG. Some of the facts are just plain staggering. I've printed out a good sized novel of facts & figures by experts in their field. One such study concluded that the ratio of hetero males to gay males that abuse children is as high as 11 to 1. That in NO ways holds up he idea that gays adopt children just to abuse them. It tells me just the opposite. It indicates heterosexual males create children just so the can abuse them. I'm looking forward to hearing her explanation for that one!!!
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
4 Nov 09
I have to say you are very patient with your Friend lol as I would have had a right go at her about this My answer to People like that is, no one condems them for living their Lifes the way they want to so why is she condeming their Lifes because they are Gay I have Gay Friends and it does not even enter my mind oh they are Gay, because they are People and good Friends just like any one else I hope you will find the Information Lady M as I don't know where you could have seen it
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• India
4 Nov 09
I would like to inform you about a incident which happened in our place. A big CEO, who was a bachelor, adapted a young boy. They are quite attached to each other, and till today, they are still staying together. The boy is now a middle aged man, and both of them are staying together. I do not know whether these people are gay, because in India, such kind of things are not spoken freely, but this is only a rumour. This CEO belonged to one the biggest companies in India, and the fact was he was forced to leave the company, because he wanted to make his adapted son as the next CEO. Note that this man was very widely respected, so if these two people are gays, then what your "MAD" friend makes sense. Here I would like to mention, that I do not have anything against gays, and as far as I am concerned, they can have their own life. I hope you would also read the response I have given to Lamb.
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@pierone (1893)
• Italy
4 Nov 09
Hello LadyMarissa. First of all, thanks for the interesting discussion. I would like to suggest you to don't spend so much time in your searching, could be better spend your time in searching some new friends, and run away from that woman. She's not only ignorant, but also dangerous. Her words are lot in common with the ideas of lot of fanatic groups, starting from the Illinois Nazi to the infamous KKK. If I were you, I would like to remember your "dear" friend that not so much time ago a big scandal explosed about penophily and chatolic priests. Maybe she would like to say that these priests are gay... then you could remember her that lot of abuses on childs are done by their own parents. And if they are the parents, "probably" they are heterosexuals. Anyway, is a waste of time, she never change her mind. Once again, instead of waste your time trying to let an unreasonable person understand something reasonable, invest your time in find better friends. Btw, I'm etero, and happly married ;) Have a nice time there.
• Philippines
4 Nov 09
hello marissa, i couldn't believe that they are some who are actually so closed minded with regards to the lesbian and gay community, as they are spread through out the world already. well, am a bit close minded in some other things but never this close. you'd better be careful talking to these kind of person, good luck for you. i just hope you don't get into trouble trying to open her mind
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