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myLot reputation of 98/100. Janey1966 (2682)   ranked 471 out of 916 in believer 3 years ago

...they are killed for their skins i.e leather, am I right? Why is this? If a cow is sacred it is sacred. I know that it covers just "eating" the cow but why should it not apply to its skin as well? Killing is killing am I right?

I know all this because so-called "Italian Leather" - popular in the UK, is now imported from India. It's true!shocked

I want to know why the Indians have suddenly decided that killing cows for profit is OK.doh

 

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tags:  india, beliefs, cow slaughter - money minded people, eastern indian leather, food
 
1. myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8759)   3 years ago

Janey

You have observed this as well.

I some weeks back asked why India people here in Australia have Fast food take aways stores like Hungry Jacks, and McDonald's also 7-11 stores That sell meat produce in the form of Burgers and hot-Dogs as these are Beef (Cattle) cows,

These folk also wear the third eye on the forehead, I was under the belief they had the COW as Sarette and the Holy.

But to me it must have changed in time from HOLY to the HOLY DOLLAR. and forget beliefs and faith.

My question was not commented on by anyone from India, and that made it also very interesting, What do we have here, put the head in the sand and all will pass by unseen ?

Mine was a question, not a blame or hate comment, but of interest to have a better understanding.

If we do not ask, how will we ever know and understand better of those around us.

HICCUP/


myLot reputation of 86/100. hiccup (8759)  3 years ago

TYPO.

Sacred (as in holy)

Sorry.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Janey1966 (2682)   ranked 471 out of 916 in believer  3 years ago

Hi Hiccup, Thanks for sharing that with us. Yes, I am hoping I get some answers. I'm curious more than anything. I mean, cows are "free" to wander all over India and yet this goes on...hopefully, I might get somewhere with this discussion.thumbup

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2. myLot reputation of 96/100. sulsisels (946)   3 years ago

Hi Janey..From what I understand, cows are still very much sacred in India. The slaughtering of the animal to make shoes and handbags is done brutally in illegal slaughter houses. The problem seems to be that not only is it a 4 billion dollar industry, it also employs 2.5 million Indians. PETA has actively attacked the issue and has been successful getting large companies like the Gap, Donna Karan, Eddie Bauer and Timberland to stop buying Indian leather. Another problem is that
banning the industry would only put it "underground" as well as unemploy millions. The challenge is now for the government to balance the right of the animals, sacred to many, and the rights of the industry which is now threatened. I personally am all for boycoting Indian leather. I don't want to see millions out of work, but can't stand the thought of inhumane treatment of the animal either. Its definately a huge issue. PETA is a wonderful orginazation and should be commended for the work they have done there..Unfortunately it just isnt enough.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Janey1966 (2682)   ranked 471 out of 916 in believer  3 years ago

I'm pretty sure it was PETA where I found out about the Indian leather thing...on their British version of the site. Thanks for giving me even more information about this, it is much appreciated. I just needed to understand what was happening and - more importantly, why? I do know that Chinese leather isn't very good either. We have had instances in the UK where people's legs "sting" when they sit on it because of chemicals, I think! It's a huge problem as manufacturing is a dying industry here so leather seems to come from anywhere that's "cheap" but animals suffer as a result.


myLot reputation of 47/100. NoirAngelique (356)  3 years ago

If you don't want to support the inhumane treatment of animals and will boycott Indian leather to achieve this, then it's also time consider boycotting American beef, pork, chicken, milk, eggs and cheese. Do a search on factory farming. All the animals are cramped into spaces so tiny they can't even turn around. Cows have their tails docked and horn buds burned off, no anesthetic. Chickens are de-beaked. Milk cows are kept perpetually pregnant by artificial insemination to keep the milk flow at max. All are fed growth hormones, all are fed grain contaminated with pesticides, cows & pigs are fed low doses of antibiotics constantly. And there's LOTS more, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Some of the videos are so hard to watch, I just had to stop. I was never a big meat eater anyway, but after seeing and reading about this, I'm giving up meat raised here unless I KNOW where it came from and how those animals were treated.

If you have access to free range meats & eggs, stick with that. And if you can get Amish cheeses, you're probably safe there.

As far as the cows in India being holy, they are not to be eaten by those of Hindu faith and I think a few other lesser known ones. If a cow died from natural causes, the body could be used for many things, but I don't think the cows supposed to be slaughtered for those things. And milk, butter and cheese could be consumed, just not meat. But Hinduism isn't the only religion in India, so maybe those working in the related industries aren't of that faith and so have no conflict. What boggles the mind is that there are enough people willing to perpetuate these horrible conditions and inhumane treatment of all these poor creatures....in India, in the U.S. and anywhere else these travesties take place.


myLot reputation of 96/100. sulsisels (946)  3 years ago

Point well taken..thanks

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3. myLot reputation of 67/100. junil_jk (398)   3 years ago

yeah they even make sacrifices for their gods and goddesses also. just doesn't make sense!


myLot reputation of 98/100. Janey1966 (2682)   ranked 471 out of 916 in believer  3 years ago

Yes there was a big festival recently wasn't there? It received a lot of criticism around the world as it was on such a big scale.

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4. Redeast (6)   3 years ago

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5. chandush (24)   3 years ago

India is secular, thus there are several communities with different religious thoughts and ideas. therefore, we may say that cows are sacred to one particular religion or community but may not be the same to the other community. hence for one religion it is sacred and for other it is not. Thus cows (cattle)are slaughtered or killed for their skins, beef etc which has now become a major business of export or import in the industrial sector. So one can never conclude easily as cows are sacred in India and yet are killed for money. When money becomes primary to man, humanity never can take a stand and people are tend to such acts merely for that said money.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Janey1966 (2682)   ranked 471 out of 916 in believer  3 years ago

Thank you for your response as I know that you are from India. Welcome to MyLot. It does seem a shame that some communities worship the cow and others don't. It must be about money...and I don't condone your nation for that, it's just that I worry that cattle won't be treated as well as in other areas where they are sacred. You see what I mean? I have boycotted Egypt as a holiday destination because they chose to over-react because of Swine Flu and burned ALL their pigs alive with acid, burning them and leaving them to die in total agony...in broad daylight as well. Compassion in World Farming was not impressed, as you can imagine. Please, if you witness any cruelty, report it. If it goes unreported then it escalates. I also know that the UK is not perfect either and am willing to accept we, too have a long way to go.sad

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6. myLot reputation of 100/100. astonysh (4492)   3 years ago

Is it possible that all these cows are slaughtered by members of India's Muslim community?

There are apparently over 100 million Muslims in India, so that must be a possibility.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Janey1966 (2682)   ranked 471 out of 916 in believer  3 years ago

I never knew there were so many Muslims in India. Thanks for your response, you've got me wondering about that now lol.

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7. myLot reputation of 94/100. allknowing (5152)   3 years ago

Cow slaughter is banned in certain parts of the country and it is in the other parts of the world there is no restriction whatsoever and they are killed for whatever purpose. Cow slaughter is banned in India for all purposes. But the slaughter of cattle excluding cows is not banned.

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8. myLot reputation of 97/100. MrKennedy (1888)   3 years ago

Although the cow is very much sacred, I guess some Indian people are just really desperate for the money that cows can bring in, and so all thoughts of them being sacred are thrown out of the window for a handful of notes and another meal on the table.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Janey1966 (2682)   ranked 471 out of 916 in believer  3 years ago

That's fair enough but I can't understand why the cow is so sacred if they choose to kill it.

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9. myLot reputation of 99/100. RawBill1 (3395)   ranked 33 out of 916 in believer   3 years ago

This is sad news. I had no idea that this went on in India. I guess that as there is so much population there and so much competition for money to live on that some people are willing to forsake their religious beliefs in order to survive. sad

There are also many different religions in India and they might not all see the cow as sacred. India is just as multicultural as Australia or England. I was actually having a discussion with a friend last night about the many different religions in India. He has been there many times and is planning to return again later this year. happy

He took me to a Hare Krishna temple nearby last night. It was a great night with loads of awesome music and chanting and a great feast at the end of it all. I know for a fact that Hare Krishna's view the cow as being sacred and are all vegetarian. It was the second time that I have been to one of their temples but the first time at this one. The people that I met were all extremely friendly and polite and were a mix of mainly Indians, with some Aussies and a Japanese person as well. And yes there were pictures of cows on the wall! thumbup


myLot reputation of 98/100. Janey1966 (2682)   ranked 471 out of 916 in believer  3 years ago

It just goes to show that none of us knows absolutely everything about all cultures. How can we? Every country is so diverse now. India being one of them...surprisingly so. You notice not many Indians have responded to this discussion...and the same happened with HICCUP, apparently. They are obviously a bit reluctant to talk about their cows. That Hare Krishna temple sounds awesome...and there's me thinking that India was like that. How wrong could I be?sad

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10. myLot reputation of 72/100. barehugs (5851)   3 years ago

The last thing I want to do is to upset your little red wagon, but you just wrote "Killing is killing, right?" India has been overloaded with holy cows, so much so that they were costing the country millions. They disrupted traffic, ate, and otherwise destroyed human food stuff, and were a $hitty mess in the cities.But all this aside, Killing is not what it seems! No living thing ever dies. All living things such as plants, animals, and people are like chips of God. Would God allow a part of Himself to molder away and be gone? Of Course He would Not! and he does not. Reincarnation happens when the Spiritual body (only the physical is abandoned)changes dimensions and lives again on earth in the body of a newborn animal, plant, or human. (google reincarnation to get the facts)


myLot reputation of 98/100. Janey1966 (2682)   ranked 471 out of 916 in believer  3 years ago

I have no idea what you are going on about but I will say this. If there was a problem of over-population why couldn't the cows be sterilised? Just a thought!

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