Who are the Other sheep not of this fold  |
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|  John 10: 16 quotes " Other sheep I have which are not of this fold. Them also I must bring, and they shall here my voice, and there shall be one fold and one shephard.
Now I have heard that this could be the Gentiles and I have heard that this could be the people of the americas. Which were unknown to the people of the time.
Any ideas?
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1.  barehugs (5855)
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3 years ago
| |  This is a famous biblical verse often quoted to prove that Christians are supposed to go out into the neighborhood and convert the heathen. To me this verse is just another facet of the Biggest Scam ever perpetrated on the human race. Churches and Temples of Organized Religions have been collecting money for nearly 2000 years in the name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. This brilliant scheme(Scam) was dreamed up sometime after the Purported Death and Resurrection of said Jesus. There has never been any factual basis for this religion, and science has come up empty handed trying to prove that Jesus ever actually lived in Palestine. Even the Dead Sea scrolls failed to mention the Savior of the World.
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2.  gewcew23 (5064)
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3 years ago
| |  These other sheep might be living in another solar system, LOL, I have no idea what he could have been talking about. The best guess gentiles living outside of the known world.
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 ClassyCat (874)
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3 years ago
| |  Well, I guess where the validity of the Bible and the birth, live, death and resurrection of Christ is concerned - that is all a matter of personal choice for accepting - but there IS and has been many scientific and historic facts that support all of the above.
Generally those that reject these things are really not looking nor do they want to hear about these studies, so there's no need for me to post any links aluding to them.
I never have figured out why folks get all bent out of shape about money going to the churches. You either give or you don't - it's all of societies free choice, and of course the church 'has to received funds somehow' for their pastors, priests, and mission efforts, etc. Those who misuse funds will give an account for that.
And there are many of us 'christians' who don't go out door to door or preaching anywhere. We just live our lives in simplicity and try to be an example of what Christians should be. But we all get blamed for the quacks within the faith.
The scripture that you mention has been misused by many religions saying that "they" are the other sheep that Jesus spoke of - but He was referring to those that would be His sheep in the future generations, including this one. These sheep are those who look to Him as their Saviour and 'Sheperd' and follow His teachings.
I hope I have helped in some small way to shed a little light on this.
Hope you had a nice Valentine's Day (if you celebrate it)
C. C.
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| gewcew23 (5064)
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3 years ago
| | I think you might have posted this to the wrong person. | | | |
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| 3. EvanHunter (2233)
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3 years ago
| |  My opinion is that maybe its not just for anyone but everyone. My theory is that prophesy is not limited to one time and location but that true prophesy is like an anomaly in a fractal theory that is fitted every time it occurs. So how about all the above and than some.
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4.  Residual (986)
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2 years ago
| |  onlinetomakemoney,
First you have to do is to learn how to rightly divide the word of God.
On this you only read the verse and you should read the whole chapter. but I will explain the verse:
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
In this verse Jesus is the shepherd and his flock are the ones who followed him and believed the he was God. The other members were the unbelievers and they are the of the Jewish nation.
Jesus never stepped foot out of the Nation if Israel and he only preached to the Jews because he was a Jew. No Jew would have anything to do with a gentile which is us and they wouldn't even eat at the same tabl with us. They considered us like dogs.
When I say righly divide the word you find ut who is talking and who the are talking to.
Hope this helps!
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