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myLot reputation of 75/100. achilles2010 (2097)   ranked 509 out of 6,501 in religion 2 years ago

Circumcision was the "sign" or physical brand of identification of the human participants (Genesis 17:11). Circumcision was relevant to Abraham's generation. Why it lost it's relevance after Jesus came?


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1. myLot reputation of 64/100. charmed007 (214)   2 years ago

Circumcision is still in practice until today, even when Jesus was a baby he had been circumcised too, so I do not think its' relevance is lost. Also, circumcision is hygienic for males. I think that is the main reason why all males should be circumcised, it is not merely a sign of covenant, but it is for health reasons too.


myLot reputation of 75/100. achilles2010 (2097)   ranked 509 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

I mean to say why circumcision lost it's relevance as a covenant with God. I know people still perform circumcision for health reasons.

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2. myLot reputation of 82/100. Steinway (301)   ranked 1,731 out of 6,501 in religion   2 years ago

I just studied this in Sunday School today. Look in Acts 15:1-19. The Pharises thought that the Gentiles should be circumsiced. But, the apostles and elders discussed it and Peter addressed this issue. It was decided that they should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God.


myLot reputation of 75/100. achilles2010 (2097)   ranked 509 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

Thanks Stein for quoting the reference. I personally feel that the Covenant God had made with Noah was unconditional, but the covenant God had made with Abraham was conditional. God gave his word to Abraham that he would have a generation as many as stars in the sky and grain of sand on earth if they resort to circumcision. God kept His word after He came as His own son. Once that covenant was fulfilled, it lost its relevance. Muslims circumcise because they do not recognize Jesus as Son of God and they are still waiting for Christ to come.


myLot reputation of 66/100. Harley009 (821)   ranked 1,032 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

Muslims believe that Jesus had come and he was a prophet. God is ONE only neither beget nor begotten, And hence Jesus is neither son of God nor God. Jesus was neither dead nor got crucified, but God raised him to a dwelling place with Him. Jesus will return as per the God's command for the second time near to the last hour, he will stop evils and spread the real message of God, he will lead people, kill anti Christ who spread evil and troubles and will die a normal death.

Jews don't recognize Jesus as the promised messiah, they are still waiting for the Messiah.

Just to clarify ...


myLot reputation of 75/100. achilles2010 (2097)   ranked 509 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

It is true I agree because Jesus was born in Isaac's line of descent and not in Ismael's line of descent. In Ismael's line of descent he is yet to come.

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3. myLot reputation of 87/100. loku18 (506)   2 years ago

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myLot reputation of 87/100. loku18 (506)  2 years ago

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myLot reputation of 47/100. Gordano (393)   ranked 751 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

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myLot reputation of 75/100. achilles2010 (2097)   ranked 509 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

Egyptians, Babylonians and Romans too were Abraham's contemporary. Will you please tell me:

1)of all the people in the world why God chose only Abraham and his descendants for circumcision?

2)Why did he make covenant only with Abraham's generation and not the others?

3)Why God did not make any covenant with those who lived before Noah and God chose them to destroy?

4) Did He extend this covenant also to those who will survive after the judgment day? Meaning Muslims will continue circumcision even after the judgment day?


myLot reputation of 87/100. loku18 (506)  2 years ago

Hi Achilles & Gordano, have a nice day!have a nice day
Thanks for providing me with so much of information on circumcision! 60 years before as a young Hindu boy, what I know is Hindus don't aattempt circumcision whereas it is compulsory for Muslims!
Keep Smiling!happy

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4. myLot reputation of 62/100. redhotpogo (2272)   ranked 301 out of 6,501 in religion   2 years ago

I don't think its lost its relevance. Maybe the health reasons are why God wanted it done in the first place. Everyone thinks the rules, and laws are there for the hell of it. Like God said "You do it cause I say so." But I think that kind of attitude is a human attitude. I believe everything that God said was for a reason. It was for our own good.

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5. myLot reputation of 36/100. TheMetallion (771)   ranked 2,453 out of 6,501 in religion   2 years ago

It hasn't lost its relevance. Jews still practice it as a religious and cultural act -- pretty much for the same reason you say Muslims practice it. To Christians it was never relevant, rejecting circumcision was one of the points on which Christianity schismed from Judaism.

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6. myLot reputation of 47/100. Gordano (393)   ranked 751 out of 6,501 in religion   2 years ago

Circumcision is an everlasting covenant between Allah the Almighty Creator and Prophet Abraham PBUH the father of faithfuls, Jesus Christ PBUH was also Circumcised at the 8th day as written, circumcision didn't loss it's relevance after Jesus came as you already said, but after Saul of tarsus (or the so-called Apostle Paul) preached the false message to the wrong audience.

now Christianity and the Church give more attention to Paul's deception than the teachings of Jesus Christ, some people also consider Paul the founder of current version of Christianity, where all the teachings of Jesus were canceled and the the Law was abolished by Paul when he preached the false message to the wrong audience.


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7. myLot reputation of 26/100. qamarep (4087)   ranked 5,995 out of 6,501 in religion   2 years ago

who says that man it is still done here in theworld with the religious people


myLot reputation of 75/100. achilles2010 (2097)   ranked 509 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

Abraham's descendants born of slave woman Hagar are still continuing the practice. Descendants born of his legitimate wife Sarah are not circumcising their males anymore.


myLot reputation of 26/100. qamarep (4087)   ranked 5,995 out of 6,501 in religion  2 years ago

if she was a slave then why would a wife ask her husband to divorce and take slave out of home.. she was second wife..

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