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myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion 2 years ago

HEll0 friends. I know that in the Christianity "helping the others" is one of the unwritten laws( as far as I know, hope that I am not mistaken) that religious people must observe, and I guess it is the same with all other religions, but am I really right? Does this saying really play an important role in your religion and do you always observe it?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 43/100. Idealisticgirl (382)   ranked 3,971 out of 6,502 in religion   2 years ago

As an Adventist, I must say that I do feel that "words" in our group. Everyone is so friendly in our religion and we are helping even those people who are not same religion with us.


myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

well, it sounds really nice. I hope that the most of the people can be so friendly like the ones in your group, just because the world will be a better place to live in, with people like that! I don't know anything about your religion, just have heard about it, but not much!

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2. myLot reputation of 69/100. JerusalemFolk (2424)   ranked 590 out of 6,502 in religion   2 years ago

The Sages said in the Mishna ( oral law ) : The world stands on three things,1
on the study of the Torah ( Holy Bible and commentaries ) 2.on the service of G.od and 3. deeds of kindness, generosity.
Deeds of kindness are greater than charity. Why ?
1. Charity is only with money but in acts of kindness you give all your person
2. Charity is for the living. Kindness is also for the deceased, e.g. eulogizing, light a candle, not saying bad things about the deseased
3. Charity is for the poor. You have to be kind to the poor and the rich.
If your brother becomes impoverished and his means falter in your proximity, you shall strenghten him ( Leviticus, 25:35 ).
Also in the Books of Psalms, the King David says : I shall build a world based on generosity.


myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

hell0 there!
well, i have never doubt that kindness is less than charity, because nowadays the word charity means for many people something that famous people/celebrities make just to become more popular, to have some popularity and not because they want to help people in deed. yeah, i also guess that we should be kind to all of the people no matter of their material status and their religion, but sometimes there are many rich people who realy don't deserve to get any kindness from people!

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3. myLot reputation of 91/100. MAllen400 (506)   ranked 717 out of 6,502 in religion   2 years ago

I would like to think that helping others is a human thing to do as well as a religious one. Yet I am sure that this is not so as there would not be wars in countries, neighbours not getting on etc if everyone tried to help others. On the other hand there are a lot of people that do not want to be helped.
I must admit that yes I do try to help others and yes I admit that sometimes I am choosy in which others I help. x


myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

well, maybe you are right- sometimes there are people who behave bad with the others and we don't want to help them in moments of deed, but that's actually what we should try to fight with, this "habit", because when we learn helping even the ones we don't want to, then we can surely say that we follow our religion and know the real meanning of the word "HELP". someone has said it once, that if we really want to know what help really means then we must first learn to help our enemies, because helping the others means helping all the people in deed, not only the ones that we like, and maybe that's why there are so many wars in this world, maybe that's why there are so terrorist and so many criminals, just because we don't try to understand them and because we don't try to help them, and I guess that if wetry to help those people, they will let us do it and will change for good. The only think that we must do is to show them that we care and taht there are many others who care for it too thumbup
I am not a religious person, but helping the others means a lot to me, and I don't even connect it with religion, for me helping people in deed that actually shows us that we are reasonable creatures and there is something that makes us different than many other animal specieses!

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4. myLot reputation of 91/100. sudiptacallingu (8859)   ranked 515 out of 6,502 in religion   2 years ago

The word ‘help’ does not belong to Christianity alone. Every religion orders its followers to help people in need. What is to be seen is whether this ‘help’ is for all people or only for those people belonging to that particular religion and also whether that ‘help’ is more for proselytizing or completely selfless. I think most religions have this ‘help’ thing only amongst its own followers and when they help people of other faith, its more to spread their own religion.
In my opinion, there’s only one religion which has selfless ‘help’ and that is HUMANITY


myLot reputation of 83/100. akiong (422)  2 years ago

Great, I like your comment!

Yes, 'help' does not belong to a certain religion. Human already helping each others far before any religion ever exist, since the ancient age. Some scientists said, this 'helping each other' behavior makes us human different from other living beings in this earth. They made some tests. Monkey is willing to help other monkeys if it knows it can benefit itself, for example to searching food together. We human are different, we are willing to help others even we know it won't benefit ourself. For example donation to the poor. We even help not only human but also weak animals.

Helping others make us different from other living beings. That is why we called ourselves human.


myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

hell0 Sudiptacallingu! yes, i guess that you are comletely right, because i was pretty sure that help is a word which we can see in every holy book of each religion, and I just wanted to know how much does it mean in each of them, because for the different religions it can have different value :)
well, it is sad when people with different religions try to help others just to spread their own religion among them, because the help doesn't mean that. and yuo are right also about that the HUMANITY is the only selfless religion.thumbup

Hell0 Akiong!
yeah, i also think that help is something more than just a word in the religion and people have helped each other since many thousands years, even before the religion was created. I also have mentioned that people are different than the other living creatures on Earth because this HELP and i was really wondering do any other animals do that, or we are the only ones. well, now I have the answer with the monkeys. I only think that we must try to stick together, not only people from same religions, but all the people, because help is something that can connect all the people on the world, no amtter of religion

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5. myLot reputation of 60/100. pierone (1127)   ranked 639 out of 6,502 in religion   2 years ago

I guess that help the others is a kind of "law" common in most, if not all, religions.

As well as "love the others as yourself".

But I also guess that nowadays this kind of "law" is not so popular among the people.

Just as an example (but there are really many more", you can try to find some discussions about "immigrants, illegal immigrants" here, in mylot (usually are in the "politics" section).

You will see how lot of people, (the same people that you can find also in the "religion" section saying that God is love, and lot of other nice and good things), that probably never forget to go in the Church on sunday, forget this law, forgetting that immigrants (expecially the illegal ones), are people that leaved their own countries just because their life conditions, and should be people that really needs help.

I guess that this demonstrate that is really easy be "good people" in words, but when be good people means put the hands in the wallet, then.... is another story.


myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

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6. myLot reputation of 98/100. jaiho2009 (11604)   ranked 944 out of 6,502 in religion   2 years ago

In my views,it is not all about religion that we,people/humans,help each others.
It is one of the basic instinct that we feel pity and feel to help others when know they are in need.
In my religion,we help a lot of people by reaching them with our various charity works.
From medical missions to feeding programs.
We also run orphanages for the orphans and the widows and the aged.
Helping other people,gives joy and happiness that can't be define.

In my religion,we had this thoughts of keeping in mind,that,
"try not to do sin,unless do one good deed/s in a day"


myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

hello! I am really glad that there are still people like you on the world, who really help the others not because of some benefits, but just because they know it is right and it is something good that they can make for people who really need it. I have never taken part in some charity programs or some other helping things, but have given money to charities many times, because I also think just like you- that if I can't be sinless then I can at least try to do something good a day!


myLot reputation of 98/100. jaiho2009 (11604)   ranked 944 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

It's nice to know that,you also try your best to reach our the needy by giving financial support to charities.
Keep it up dearhappy


myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

yeah, i really feel much better when do that!

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7. donyun247 (64)   ranked 3,222 out of 6,502 in religion   2 years ago

Hi phoenix8606, just want to give opinion. I think the terms of "helping the others" should be apply to any religion. Basically that's supposed to be the product of religion which is trying to make us to become a better person and "helping the others" is a result of our learning in each of our religions. I guess the correct word that you are searching is "compassion". That would be the highest achievement from your religious life turn into more spiritual. Religion is all about rules and law but if you understand it more, spirituality is what you aiming for.


myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

hell0 Donyun!
yeah, I am sure that it must be applied to any religion, but I just wanted to know how do you exactly vaue this word in each religion and how much does it mean to you :) yeah, HELP is actually the thing that can make us good at the easiest way, if I ca say it so, because for me there is nothing better than that what we can do than helping people in deed. yeah, spiritual life is really something what we all should try to achieve, but it is really hard for many of us!

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8. myLot reputation of 93/100. nangisha (2596)   ranked 1,976 out of 6,502 in religion   2 years ago

I think the word help not only used in term of religion, we must help each other because we will need others help someday, it just the way it is.

I think in term of Christianity got told us to help each other so other will see how got we getting along and show how merciful is lord to all us.


myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

yes, my friend! help is not only a word from the religion, help is moer a word from the HUMANITY, a word that shows us what human being means, because we can't call ourselves human beings if we are not ready to help others when they need some help, and as i have already told earlier, the highest achievement of reaching the HELP is to learn helping our enemies!

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9. myLot reputation of 75/100. achilles2010 (2097)   ranked 510 out of 6,502 in religion   2 years ago

I do not believe in Ben Franklin's quote, "God helps those who help themselves". God helps those who need His help the most. There were many civilizations one better than the other but God chose Hebrew race. He came as His own Son as their descendants. Hebrew race was an unknown race. It was on a race on a verge of extinction. Therefore, I believe God does not help those who can help themselves but help those who need his help the most.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Adalie (1491)  2 years ago

can I ask you something, but promise me you won't be offended?


myLot reputation of 75/100. achilles2010 (2097)   ranked 510 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

Promise me you will not try to cut me with a tomahawk !


myLot reputation of 99/100. Adalie (1491)  2 years ago

lolno I am nice!
You said you don't believe in Ben Franklin's quote "God helps those who help themselves" and so you believe God does not help those who can help themselves but help those who need his help the most, well than if that is true why god didn't help the Jews when holocaust happened? if he loves all of us why would he allow such things to happen here on earth? the reason why I am asking you this is because you sound so sure, you sound like you have faith, and I don't and your sentence got me thinking " that's all. If you are very religious help me understand if not I hope somebody here will.




myLot reputation of 75/100. achilles2010 (2097)   ranked 510 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

Hi Adalie, thanks for being nice to me. Since you had mentioned at your post you do not believe in God, I will try to explain as much as I can without any Bible references. I will begin with another earthly example. Suppose I buy a car. Car manufacturer will not come to help me every time my car breaks down. I will have to seek help from a mechanic. However, he is not oblivious to the defects that exist in the car. He is watching the defects that are occurring not just in my car but also in every car that he had manufactured. After the cars he built outlive its usefulness, he comes to help but not only to help you but also to help all those who had bought the car. He also wants to help those who are yet to buy his car. He makes a new car and this time it is without the defects and problems that everybody had faced. The real help is not coming from the mechanic who had been helping me every time my car is breaking down but it would come from the manufacturer who would eliminate the problems eventually.

May be my example did not appeal to you. I will give you another example. Medical doctors are treating the patients the world over to cure them and alleviate their sufferings but that is not the real help. Real help would come from the scientists who are right now working for inventing drugs to eliminate those sicknesses.

The father who gives his son bread for asking is not helping him really. The father who is teaching his son the ways to earn bread is helping him in the real sense. Likewise, the father who is giving his son fish for asking is not helping him but the one who is teaching his son to catch fish is helping him in real sense.

God did not help Jews in the time of holocaust because God comes to help only once in an age. He is not around to help us at every twist and turn as many think. God had help them once before by coming himself as His own Son. He promised He would come again. This time when he comes he would usher them into a new world. A world where there would be no sufferings of the kind they had experienced in this world.

Remember, God's help is not palliative. It is not just a remedy; but it comes completely to cure.


myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

well, I am really not sure that it is all true, that God helps only people who need help and can't help themselves alone.I guess that we must not wait for Him to help us/them, and try to help by our own, just because we never know when can God come and help, and as Adalie has said, sometimes God doesn't help and I also don't know why!?


myLot reputation of 75/100. achilles2010 (2097)   ranked 510 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

phoenix the phrase, "God helps those who help themselves" sounds great; but try to picture God offering a wheel chair to the one who is able to walk. Therefore, I said, "God helps only those who need his help the most". It also does not mean that we should not help ourselves and wait for God's help to come, or should not help each other. It means God's help arrives only when there is none to help.


myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

yeah, i guess you are right, but I am accustomed not to wait for someone to help meor some other person, I always prefer to do it by myself! don't get me wrong, that's only what i think!


myLot reputation of 99/100. Adalie (1491)  2 years ago

@Achilles, thanks for your explanation, I appreciate it, I am not trying to start a war flame with you lol what you said makes since but as you said god is not going to offer a wheel chair to somebody being able to walk therefore; let me give you an example I was homeless for about about a year or more, and I never asked for god's help even if I did I don't think he would had answered my prayers because what happened to my family especially my mother she didn't diverse it, I never sat around waiting for his help, I work hard to get off from the streets and nobody helped me and my mother we did it all by ourselves so god help's those who help themselves and not those who are in need just a thought; he helps both those who are need and help themselves have a nice day


myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

I think that Adalie is right! we must not always wait for some help from God, first we must try to help by our own!

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10. myLot reputation of 99/100. Adalie (1491)   2 years ago

just a thought I think the word help should be apply to everyone and not just in some religions. That's how it should be we should help others because we really want to and not because we want a place up there in heaven just a thought. You know I don't believe in religions nor do I believe in god.


myLot reputation of 99/100. phoenix8606 (2645)   ranked 13 out of 6,502 in religion  2 years ago

yes, Adalie- we should help all the people who need our help and we must try to help everyone in deed, and not waiting for some prophets to come and tell us whom can we help and whom not, just because he has done something bad in his life and the other hasn't! sometimes I also wonder does God really exist, because of the many bad things that happen to good people!

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