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myLot reputation of 72/100. Willowlady (8976) 6 years ago

My wonderful dog is an escape artist and I wish to keep him safe and me with no fines. There is a leash law and we cannot keep him in the house since he is a large dog. We do not have the money for fencing right now.
We give him his house and water with food and toys so he is well tended!Any help will be greatly appreciated.


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brendalee (5064) response was accepted on 12/24/2006.
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tags:  animal, black lab, canine, captivity, chained
 
1. myLot reputation of 71/100. drumm1n (438)   6 years ago

well you make sure your dog knows that your house and your family is his pact.i trained my dog to stand guard based on the fact that i reward him once he does anything i want him to right!labs are very intelligent and i think the most eas to train. so it shudnt b too much of a problem

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2. myLot reputation of 99/100. brendalee (5064)   6 years ago

I don't know if you will be able to do this but this is what we did. We didn't have the money for a fence but needed an area for our dogs. I have 4, by the way. We went around to different businesses and checked the newspaper and we got lots of wood pallets. They were free. Some places just want to get rid of them. My boyfriend made a fence out of them. He ended up having to buy some chickenwire for the top because my yellow lab figured out he could climb it. You can paint the fence if you want it to look nice. I'll try to get you a picture later.


myLot reputation of 99/100. brendalee (5064)  6 years ago

here is a pic of my "red neck fence" lol.



myLot reputation of 72/100. Willowlady (8976)  6 years ago

Wow, this is right up our alley, would have only 1 question! what kind of posts did you use to support at the joints and make it stand firm? You are appreciated!!!



myLot reputation of 99/100. brendalee (5064)  6 years ago

Hopefully I can explain this.lol. He dug a small trench in the ground first. I don't know if that helps. hes explaining it to me as I am trying to type.lol. He says he took some of the boards from the pallets and cut one end into a "V" shape and pounded this into the ground, then nailed it to the standing pallet. Also pallet wood can be hard so you may need to drill holes in it. I hope this helps. he says he can draw plans up for you, all he needs to know is how big of an area do you need and if it will be free standing or up against a porch or something.


myLot reputation of 72/100. Willowlady (8976)  6 years ago

Wow, thanks much for this, this does explain things. the plans would be great if he would like to be creative...36 by 36 ft or so...he is a large dog and we do have property and running is good exerise..one corner could be sort of a roofed area for sun shade if you know what I mean... the email here could be used for transmission of postal address...or would you like to email the plans...either way this is so helpful!



myLot reputation of 99/100. brendalee (5064)  6 years ago

My boyfriend is right in the middle of making toyboxes for Christmas but he will be able to make up a plan later. He did say you will probably need about 40-50 pallets. And he asked again if you will need 4 sides or will it be up against something. We got lucky with ours,we have a back porch and we built it around that. We didn't need to build a gate because I can just let them out the back door. Do you need a gate? I haven't figured out how to get the plans to you yet but he says he can use the paint program on the computer and I can email them to you.


myLot reputation of 72/100. Willowlady (8976)  6 years ago

Ok, thanks and you are terrific...it would be a stand alone. He and an Australian Shepherd for now occupy adjoining areas for company and early alarm when someone comes down our long driveway. The shepherd will be housed with the barn if and when that is built so he has the company of sheep, goat etc. Pepper is the lab and he is my protector and playful pup..so being close to the house yet in an enclosure til I am out and about is best for him. We have pallets we can get that are about 6 feet long from a factory that do not want them so we will not have to use soo many like regular pallets. A gate can be easily made just have to make it Pepper proof..lol. I think he will like his canine playpen when we get it done. Thanks again!



myLot reputation of 99/100. brendalee (5064)  6 years ago

How soon do you need the plans? My boyfriend is very busy making Christmas gifts. Heck, I hardly ever see him, I just here him yell from the other room. I don't want you to have to wait too long. He might have time on Wednesday but I am not sure.


myLot reputation of 72/100. Willowlady (8976)  6 years ago

Anytime is fine..we probably won't get out there for enough time to put one up and we can gather supplies so we could work all together and get it put up in a day or weekend! Thanks much!!


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3. myLot reputation of 91/100. LovingIt (2241)   6 years ago

I see that you have been given a wonderful suggestion for building a fence. I would suggest this as your best solution. I do not like keeping a dog chained as I think that's cruel. Apparently your dog doesn't like it either.

Can't you keep him inside at least part of the time? You just need to work with him and teach him how to act indoors. It will require regular bathing to keep him clean but it can work. I have a 90 pound doberman that stays inside with me at night and most of the time during the daytime when I'm home. She, of course, does go outside to potty and for exercise. She's very well behaved, though, and knows to stay off of the furniture, etc. Just because a dog is big, doesn't mean it can't become a house dog.


myLot reputation of 72/100. Willowlady (8976)  6 years ago

we live in trailer since we had a housefire and eventually the property will be chained. as a rule he does stay home however if anyone came and saw him loose we could get a ticket although he is on our property. So at a down point in our life we are trying to do what is necessary so there is no additional money we have to spend on preventable things. Thanks for your thoughts. I also would not like to see a dog on a chain.


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4. myLot reputation of 90/100. margieanneart (16724)   6 years ago

I don't have a dog, but, may I suggest a harness, instead of a leash around his neck. Then put it on a chain, rather than a rope. I cannot see him getting out of that. Good luck. Why can't he live in the house, and go out to run around and make?


myLot reputation of 72/100. Willowlady (8976)  6 years ago

We 4 live in a 2 bedroom trailer since our housefire and there is no room even for us really. We did get a harness, a nice leather one thinking it to be stronger. We had nylon ones and he chewed through so when we got the leather harness we soaked it in hot sauce. LOL the darling doggie boy chewed through and then chewed on it. He likes hot sauce..lol..Go figure. Also we have leash laws here and if he is witnessed running free and even if we are in the house for a minute we could get a ticket. No fun there. Thanks for responding!!


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5. myLot reputation of 56/100. pollyandry (1226)   6 years ago

Dogs hate being alon. He is bored,lonely and seeking company. Why can't a large dog be in the house? Sorry but dogs should not be outside and alone all of the time. Especially Labrador reteivers. They are so people oriented.This is how troubles begin.


myLot reputation of 72/100. Willowlady (8976)  6 years ago

You do not know our story so quickly, housefire, now 4 in 2 bedroom trailer til house if rebuilt, not enough room for us. No matter we are out alot and there are leash laws here. Brendalee and I have come up with a way to fence him in and then we won't be fined. He is my dog and yes is longs to be with me. I do so everytime I go out my long driveway for mail, work in the garden etc. My kids even go out and often will sit and read to the dogs...so cute! Dogs seem to like it too.
You see our troubles began before! ^_^ Thanks for responding.

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6. myLot reputation of 94/100. cassidy22 (2677)   6 years ago

I have a escape artist, too. He can climb 6 foot fences. We don't leave him in the yard alone for long periods of time. Dogs are pack animals and want to be with their pack. If they get bored, they run off.

You have 2 options, if you can't do a fence

1. Always use a metal chain. Anything else, the dog can chew through. We used a HEAVY gage metal chain, as some of the "dog" chains at the store were too small and our dog broke them, we got serious chain from the hardware store. You need to hook it to something solid - like a TREE. Those metal posts you twist into the ground won't do any good for a dog the size of yours. If you can't afford a fence, can you afford one fence post, cemented into the ground? He won't be able to pull that out.

2. Before I got married, my dog climbed the fence, often was left on a chain, or I had to stay outside with him. My husband, however, is a VERY good dog trainer. He spent some time with my knuckle head, and now he doesn't jump fences AND we can walk him off leash! Some good obedience training can help keep him in your yard as well.

Our dogs always have access to our house. My dogs prefer to be inside when we are gone, and sleep on the bed all day. My husbands dogs like to be outside when the weather is nice, and we have a dog door so they can come in and out of the house. I hope some of this helps...


myLot reputation of 72/100. Willowlady (8976)  6 years ago

I do appreciate your information. My 9 year guy is wonderful. He tends to stick around on our 43 acres. He has companionship with our other dog an Australian Shepher that never gets off or breaks his chain. We did go get what I called an Elephant chain since he did break the others. Brendalee has helped us and we will be building his playpen this summer. Not some little yard but one with some room to run a bit and chase the birds that alight in his area. He is funny about those birds. We cannot have them in with the 4 of us in this 2 bedroom trailer. Thanks for sharing and responding to this discussion.

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7. myLot reputation of 93/100. daddyduke (657)   6 years ago

Well I would try a choke collar, it sounds worse than it is. Most dogs get off their leashes because the collar goes right over their head. But a choke collar is much like a slip knot if he starts to pull away then the collar tightens.


myLot reputation of 72/100. Willowlady (8976)  6 years ago

Am afraid for my furry guy. A choker would be dangerous for his sillyness. He would get tangled on something and pull and pull to unconsiousness. Brendalee has a good solution for us and we will see how my boys playpen turns out for him. Thanks for responding.


myLot reputation of 93/100. daddyduke (657)  6 years ago

I totaly understand, it sounds like you have a playful guy, I hope the play pen works out :)


myLot reputation of 72/100. Willowlady (8976)  6 years ago

Thanks much, I cannot wait. He will indeed be happy I just can see it now! ^_^

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8. myLot reputation of 97/100. Debs_place (6749)   6 years ago

Please don't tell me that with this cold you keep your dog outside. That is not good.

Isn't there somewhere in the house that there is room for him. If he is like my guys, he can curl up pretty small.

Exercise him outside, take him for a good long walk twice a day, he will be fine in the house. My guys, get 2 walks a day, 1-3 miles each and take up no space in the house. They sleep. That has to be better then chained outside.


myLot reputation of 72/100. Willowlady (8976)  6 years ago

We have property and he has a really long chain and a house insulated and with straw. Someone is almost on the property at all times so they get water regularly. Feed well with the proper fats and proteins for winter weather. We augment the feed with trimmings from the house too. He has another dog an Australian Shepherd out near him for extra companionship. We have a leash law and so in lieu of fencing the total property which we will do in the future they are chained for now. We are 4 of us in a 2 bedroom trailer and no room for big doggies. We do take care of our critters and obey the law at the same time. Thanks for caring and responding!!

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