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InspirationStation (64)   ranked 264 out of 3,128 in photography3 years ago

I use a compact digital camera when shooting these days, but I prefer using an old school SLR with a tripod and good professional film. I was very pleased with it when I took it and it remains one of my finest photos taken digitally. I am strongly against altering an image with photoshop unless it is warranted (for example in the case of restoring antique images). I am interested in what you think of this image and also what you think about using photo programs such as photoshop. Indeed there is an art to photoshop, but is it as unigue and therefore as worty of merit as an original photograph?


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1. splinter6 (2)   ranked 2,797 out of 3,128 in photography   3 years ago

Yes the photo is very Ansel Adams style. I dont think there is anything wrong with using photoshop to enhance photos especially when it comes to digital photography. Sometimes a digital camera cannot capture things correctly, bypassing whatever skill you have as a photographer. I find its best to take photos in color then convert them to black and white in photoshop. NOT by using convert to grayscale mind you. There are several good methods of converting a photo to black and white in photoshop. Do you not think using photoshop is any different to using a darkroom? If you were manipulating objects in photoshop to make your photo look better than I would disapprove unless you were doing photo manipulation art. Otherwise I dont see anything wrong with changing tones, contrast etc with photoshop.


InspirationStation (64)   ranked 264 out of 3,128 in photography  3 years ago

All very valid points and I hear you completely. I guess I'm just a purist when it comes to the satisfaction of producing an image - i like to have to work for it and get lucky from time to time, even if it is more costly and time consuming. Believe me, I use a digital camera all the time now (it's been over a year since I even touched my old school SLR - it comes with me on all backpack trips into the wild), but sometimes I really miss even setting up the tripod. Heck, one time at a festival at a local ranch, I set up a tripod, opened the shutter and left it there under a moonlit night for a good ten minutes while I boogied down to some good music. The eventual photograph was quite exceptional. I just don't make the time anymore, nor have I seen a digital camera on a tripod - I don't think I would not unless I went to photography school or knew someone who made a living off of photography.
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2. myLot reputation of 95/100. rhinoboy (1354)   ranked 20 out of 3,128 in photography   3 years ago

I love your picture! I visited the Ansel Adams gallery in yosemite village in 2003 and was completely dumbstruck.

Since I only became interested in photography since getting a digital camera, I can't really relate to the purity of film and SLR.
Personally, I don't like to alter my pictures very much, but I do crop and rotate and fiddle a bit with brightness and contrast to get them looking their best.

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3. myLot reputation of 74/100. MBourgeois (168)   ranked 763 out of 3,128 in photography   3 years ago

I really like this photo. I think photographers show their real talent when taking simple black and white shots. Personally, I love the colourful nature that surrounds us, so I usually take photos that reflect the beautiful colours. However, I also like black and whites, but mainly for human subjects.

I read this once: "Normal shots show the colour of your clothes, black and white shots show the colour of your soul."

The real, most beautiful shots in my opinion are simple in nature. It shows what I like to think as "true talent".

As for Photoshop... Yes and no. If you don't have a good photo from the start, it's very hard to turn it into anything worthwhile. Editing a photo is another talent. Taking a photo requires the right kind of light, exposure, angle, and many other things. To change the colours, or recut it, takes a different kind of mind.

Because I like strong colours, I will sometimes change them to they're brighter... Sometimes I like to turn my photos black and white. Resizing and changing the frame is the most common thing I'll do in Photoshop. Although it may or may not add to the photo as a whole, it's certainly not the same thing as taking the shot in the first place.

And anyway, it's so much cooler when you use a traditional camera. You feel so powerfully antique, old and original.


myLot reputation of 79/100. destinycole (721)   ranked 2,224 out of 3,128 in photography  3 years ago

I have to admit I love black and white photography but find it very expensive.
Now of course with the age of digital cameras we can just make anything black and white and the results are still quite profound.
I use psp paintshoppro. CorelPaint. I love my psp its like a virtual best friend.
Lots of free filters out there as well that can add some really curious or strange things to your photo's.

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4. darkumer (65)   ranked 2,785 out of 3,128 in photography   3 years ago

This kind of pgotography is really cool and nice. the real stuff is in this photography. The coloured one is also good but not as that

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5. myLot reputation of 59/100. tomoe_spy (242)   ranked 604 out of 3,128 in photography   3 years ago

Me too i'm using an old school camera for photography i'm currently using a canon ae-1 even though i have a canon eos 400d i still prefer to use most of the time the slr one, I think altering images using photoshop is not bad since you only use it for enhancing your photos colors, brightness etc... not altering the whole thing...

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6. myLot reputation of 95/100. jayperiod (688)   ranked 19 out of 3,128 in photography   3 years ago

Cool photo. I love black and white photography. Contrast can many times tell more of a story than color.

All that said, I only use my digital SLR now. Photoshop is God's gift to photography! You can do so much with Photoshop. I took some photos for stock photography of my daughter, but she had a scar on her arm. With Photoshop I was able to edit the scar out and the photo has sold many times. I don't think it would have if I hadn't altered it.

I always think of photography as an art. I don't paint or even draw well, but I do have an eye for photography. It's my art. There are may artists in the past who have told great stories with their works, but they are not life-like or actual renditions of what they painted. They altered them to tell their story. A photographer using Photoshop is no different. I can take a picture, alter it, and tell an interesting story with it.

I guess it all comes down to how you see it.

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7. myLot reputation of 68/100. binong (2205)   ranked 2,804 out of 3,128 in photography   3 years ago

i don't know about Photoshop or photography
but i love if someone capture me with his camera and i love black and white image look so naturally

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8. myLot reputation of 97/100. icequeen (2564)   ranked 2,803 out of 3,128 in photography   3 years ago

Good for you for being so creative. I think the picture is great and unique on it's own. However..such programs do have thier merit too..while working on other things. We also need a better program..because now as a writer..I find I am getting more jobs that may require it....posters, invitations..etc. I admire photographers..and I think it is a great creative endeavour.

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9. myLot reputation of 86/100. AmberNormandin (744)   ranked 130 out of 3,128 in photography   3 years ago

i also have a digital camera and its ok. its not wonderful though. i use photoshop sometimes, but just to have fun. i always save a copy of the original photo. you can make some really cool effects with photoshop.

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10. myLot reputation of 70/100. forfein (1711)   ranked 2,763 out of 3,128 in photography   3 years ago

Hi

Firstly your pic is very good!! There is nothing like a GOOD black and white pic!

The details you can get is amazing!

But........ it has to be GOOD!

Photoshop....................

Lots of Photographers now use this programme, and of course, if you are fairly adept with PC's and are an "arty person", then most other users can use the programme as well!

We use it a lot now-a-days, my wife was a Semi-Professiional model, and she got quite "In" to it, at the time!!

Now she is fairly "Adept" with the thing, and the good thing about the progame is ..... if your pics are not quite what you expected, then with a little enhancement, they can be made to be quite decent!!!!

In the right place, then photshop is an excellent tool!!!

However, I have seen instances whereby the model is way to fat for the actual shot, and her figure has been re-done to standards that do NOT resemble the actual photo!!

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