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myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer 6 years ago

Here's some great footage of Setzer doing a cover of a classic piece called Caravan by Louis Prima. Setzer won a Grammy for this incidentally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFL5OZln_XI

It's taken from the DVD Live In Japan back in around 2002, enjoy :)

 

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1. myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)   6 years ago

I love that jazz tune well who does´n´t know this one. That´s great played of him i learn it a few years ago but i didn´t play that much in up tempo. You really have brought me to Setzer these days awesome player. Next stop at the music store i try to get this DVD must see the whole concert.
Can you play some of Setzer´s songs??? or did you play some in groups???


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Yes, I can play some Setzer stuff, played on a lot of rockabilly bands & we often did one or 2 of his numbers.

Here's some more from that same DVD 2 instrumentals :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsVvajNut1o

enjoy :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

That was really great listening to it in the morning, what a awesome Setzer is, i´m becoming his fan and have to det me that DVD. When i see him playing these wonderful speedy lines i think i never would be able to close to it. My attack hand is not that strong´, my fretting hand works much better. I allways having problems in syncronisation of both when it get´s to faster playing. How do you practise that? do have a good hint for me. What i really like in Setzer´s playing is that his fast lines are so nice in melody it´s not just the fast playing effect. Would be glad to just come a little close to it... lol Great video jay love it also that mellow song is so wonderful, he plays that marvelous.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

the thing that amazes me with all his phrases & riffs, he isn't even looking at the guitar half the time, he's busy bouncing about the stage & making gestures to the audience.

As for playing that kinda stuff, I'm not even close. He is really accurate & precise with his flat picking. I tend to lose it after a while. The only way to learn that kinda stuff is to practise lots of flat picking pieces.

There's a really good computer program called guitar pro that you can load tabs in, I use that a lot to practise my stuff.

http://www.guitar-pro.com/index.php?affiliate=Jay


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Hi jay thanks. i will have a look on this site, about the stage acting of Setzer i totaly agree. I´m really hungry for some new material to practise on.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Guitar pro isn't free, but as a tuition tool it's worth every penny, you see the tab on screen, you can loop sections to work on them etc, & set it to speed up each loop


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Sorry Jay i´m a little lazy responsing today, yes i saw it but i think it´s worth the price. Also if you pay you will use it, we don´t have to get all for free, the money for this software is ok for my opinion.

ps. What about Mike Stern do you like his playing???


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Re Guitar Pro, you can download the demo I think, try before you buy which is good.

As for Mike Stern, I know his name but can't recall any tracks by him, there's so many to remember.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Yes jay i just saw that you can download a demo, i try it out tomorrow as i´m some kind of to lazy for getting in to it right now, i give you a note about what it think on it after i had a try on it.

Yes your right about remembering there´s really such an amount to listen to. To me Mike Stern is a great player i have some lead sheets of his music which was into jazz rock and played it 4 years ago in a group. So we took the main song and played them in our on style that was great, also i learned a lot about some harmonys, i knew them befor but not in the kind of way he connected them. He also played in the Miles Davis group in the 80´s. Maybe there are some videos on youtube have to see for that.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Absolutely, I'll look around youtube for him for sure. Let me know when you get Guitar Pro, I got a tab of sleepwalk, by Setzer for it. That should keep you busy for a few hours :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Oh yeah... you´re probable right about playing it in that way he does it.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

I down loaded the Guitar pro today and it said only for 15 days well ok but the thing is i see the note/tabs page and you can click to see even the fretboard. So when i press play the line runs throuh the note bars but nothing to hear. Do you know what´s wrong???


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Goto preferences, & select sounds options, there;s a midi setting somewhere to select what you want to use, that's probably it


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Nothing to hear i just read on the front page that in this demo version RSE is disabled, what does that mean???


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

RSE is the REAL Sound Engine, that's different to midi, so you need to make sure you have your midi sound settings correct in preferences.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Ok Jay i got it now i here something tha sounds some kind in to a guitar.. lol.. great thanks for the help. That was so easy but i didn´t get it first.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

I know it doesn't sound great the sound, but that's because it's midi, but you get to hear the nots & see them. Which makes learning tabs way easier to follow


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

It´s good i have a little practise on them the next 14 days i can keep it. What´s with the RSE? can you hear then a real guitar.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

RSE is a more realistic sound engine, it takes a more powerful pc to run, but much better.

I just emailed you a tab too try :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Cool i just listend it, that´s great having the notes i played it sometime ago will practise that tune. It´s such a lovley one, isn´t it played also in the movie Back To The Future with Michael J. Fox??? i´m not quite sure but i guess so. Your so helping & friendly Jay im glad i met you here on this site.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

No, Michael J Fox did Johnny B Goode on Back To The Future. That's sleepwalk, same as the video somewhere on this thread :P

& likewise, I'm happy to have met you too, we share a lot of similar interests :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Yes Johnny Be Good is played in that movie, but i sure think also that Sleppwalk tune is played when his parents dance together. Next time i see that movie i have a look on it if i´m right or some kind of blinded.. lol


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

I remember them dancing yes, you may well be correct on that.

Back to Setzer, seeings as you like the vids I've found more tracks from the same show for you :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWjwiScBoMc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2AWc0jsfLM

you probably notice by now how many different Gretsches he goes through in a show. I'm very jealous of his collection


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

You really got me into Setzer the more i hear the more i enjoy his music he´s also great entertaining to say. Also like his guitar sound though it´s different to mine, i know i will get on practise in that style of music. I remember back when i started i learned a lot of rock&roll changes, riffs & pentatonic style licks.
That´s great when the ladys come out to dance & sing by his side what a wonderful music this is, it´s awesome you get a real joyful positiv feeling on it, as he said it´s time to rock...


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

I like that Drive Like lightening, cos the guitar scales sound really exotic, almost Egyptian or something. Then at the same time, sounds like dick Dale surf with the really fast pick work. Yet his does it while jumping about. Most frustrating seeing it made to look so easy.

Incidentally, the blonde lady on stage is his wife :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

I listen to the solo again and i think he mixes in some harmonic minor scale notes to get that sounding. I will try out tomorrow on that melody his playing to catch up better
what he does.
About the easyness of his acting while playing yeah.. that´s really true. I´m a big fan of Weather Report from the 70´s and i saw a concert on tv long ago and Jaco Pastorius plays the bass and when you see him playing that stuff he does it´s really amazing, he was like a maniac but the sad thing is he got to crazy weird in his personal life so he doesn´t share his music anymore to the people, that´s real tragedy.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Darn, I typed a reply & the page went blank!

I said it's a shame when musicians go off the rails, it happens so often.

Peter Green went the same way, from Fleetwood Mac I believe, he grew his nails really long so he was unable too play for many years.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Yes right said, i haven´t listen to Peter Green for a longer time also didn´t hear something on him, i like the old Fleetwood songs. My girlfried prefers more the time with Stevie Nicks from the mid 70´s. I know she has a solo record from Green that is great but can´t remember the name have to look that up.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

I wouldn't have a clue, I used to date a girl into Stevie Nicks, not my cuppa tea at all


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

You mean Fleetwood with Nicks is not your taste did i get that right... lol.. well i like the period from end of 60´s.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Yes, the 60's stuff, more bluesy, the later stuff was like pop music too me


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

I´m getting nearly tierd Jay i´m of to bed get some shut eye, see you later ..... man it´s 3:00am


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

I can't send you route 66, it's to large for your email limit :(

But to make up for it I found more from the concert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eovIVF8IgE4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOabXKpDfmk

enjoy :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Hi Jay it´s early in the morning and i´m just listening on your links, great stuff again. The Dirty Boogie is cool i like that brass sound behind. I maybe be on weekend in our next bigger town würzburg and see to get that DVD. As i said befor Jay it´s fantastic listening to that style in music after you just got up.

ps. i saw another vid "Setzer´s guitar lesson" that´s so marvelous seeing him on the guitar and no band behind him. I also reconizied how he switches between finger picking & flatpick that´s amazing how he does that, i tryed... man that´s not easy but it looks so easly as you see him doing it.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

I actually use that technique of switching between pick work & finger picking like Setzer, it really opens up your options when doing solo's. Takes a little getting used to though


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

I just saw that your in Jay, what´s up you can´t sleep like me... lol maybe it´s the moon ..haha well today i get to start practise the sleepwalk. Where did you get these notes for the Guitar Pro???


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

You mean the Sleepwalk Tab?


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Exactly, another thing i just saw that you can slow down the tempo that´s great, well i have 12 days time to practise it..lol then i have to buy.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Not only can you slow it down, but you can loop it, & set it to gain tempo on each loop.

As for the tabs, when you purchase it, you sometimes have a download of free tabs when you log into the customer area. Plus there's quite a few user forums to download & request tabs. I have loads of tabs, a few thousand for you :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

I´m thinking on to buy this thing it´s pretty cheap in my opinion 60€. Ok i´m just over the first 8 bars on tempo 60bpm.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

I'm glad you like it, I've been using it a couple of years now, I'm sure I'll have plenty of tabs you'll like.

I have to goto bed now, it's kinda late & I'm falling asleep. I'll see you tomorrow maybe :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Yes sure Jay, a well sleep for ya´ ... ssssssss


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Hi Jay, next stop at the music store i´ll get my self 2-3 CD´s from Setzer which ones do you recommand should i buy Jay???


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

The Dirty Boogie, Guitar Slinger & his side project called Ignition, it's different to the orchestra, but really rockin.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Morning Jay, hey do have an alarm bell that´s tells ya´ some friend posted your were so quick LOL....thanks i´ll get to see in buying them. A good thing happend this week, a friend of mine needs me in his studio to play some guitar parts on his tracks and for the work on them i´ll get one day free for recording some stuff, great thing.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

So this week you become a star :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

No no no... not me i´m just not the typ for getting a star!


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Ahhhh you're a modest Rock Legend


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

LOL... I didn´t get modest at first, had to bring out the dictionary, yes modest may be but legend in now way Jay, but i like rock music.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

You forget I've heard you playing. you could be up there with the big boys if you put your mind too it :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Which big boys do you mean Jay ... LOL i have heart for music i know that for sure, but i´m not really mad for the stage i think, i may be get a new band together next if luck is on my side, i´m trying to find a practise room now since i gave the last one up when i took the one year brake of playing guitar.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Yes, that's always a pain finding somewhere to rehearse, I could never find drummers I could get along with either. Serious ego's & not willing to play what was needed.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Yes i understand, well the thing is my old drumer mate phoned me and said he wanted to do something (we have been playing together some years earlier) so i called up my brother who i told you plays bass and is in a cover band to get our bums up and have another try on something new.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Yes, get it on, a jam is great fun to bring new ideas.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Yeah.. that´s it, i´m seeing to meet as maybe 2-3 times befor going to that studio recording day i got for free to just record session stuff and get forth from working on them ideas we play on that day, could be work out good i think.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

It'll get your creative juices flowing & it's just good working with other musicians. I find I stagnate just jamming by myself.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Yes that´s exactly the point as i also have this small project with that older friend of mine, but he´s not a jammer and we play with a drum machine and that sucks in time. I let you know how it´s working out because this week i will know more my self, well i´m sure i find a place to jam a litte then. If it get´s started and the recording is successful i send you over some stuff from it ok.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Absolutely, I'd love to hear it :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Well then press your thumb for me Jay...LOL
i have to pick up my lady from work so maybe catch you later, if not then sure the next day. see ya´


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Ok, catch you later mate :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Hi Jay how is it going do have some good news for me is Setzer playing a concert next week in germany near my area??? ... LOL

ps. I want to ask you if you have the notes for his Caravan version for the Guitar Pro 5???


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

I know news of any Setzer Europe tour at this time unfortunately, & I can put in a request for Caravan tab on the forum :)

I got a vid for you, watch closely, something kinda unexpected happens half way through :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3XZwzN4iMY


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

OUT STANDING!!! what a great scence going on there, i didn´t exspect that to happen suddenly Eddie on stage and all the other well know names. I just can say i enjoyed it to the bones, i had to watch it a 2nd time, great. That must have been a hell of a fun being in that concert.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

I was blown away when I first saw it, it's a shame the audio is out of sync with the video. What a historic moment for guitarists, I defy anyone to say Setzer isn't a respected guitarist after that


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Yes i agree on you, i recognized that something is not right about the tone track but you can explain that better then me...ha


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Here's another I've not seen before, again the sound quality isn't brilliant, but still good to see :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWgbHwzgL-c


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lewah69 (1166)  6 years ago

Sorry Jay needed my bed... after 10 minutes of posting the last comment but right after geting up i had a listen to it. It sounds somehow very traditional, nice tune it´s familiar to me i think i heard it befor. Setzer is pretty young age, in what time are these videos made?


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

The Orchestra Ones are from 1999 I believe, not sure what the Stray Cats one is from, but it's around early 84 at a guess

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2. myLot reputation of 89/100. cremechese (4490)   6 years ago

I thought "Caravan" was originally Duke Ellington -- maybe I'm mixed up. I have to make somebody crawl on their knees to bend over and fix my stoopid speakers. Dang, and my son was just here yesterday, argh. why didn't I think of it.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

Yes, you're right, it was Duke Ellington, I always relate it to Louis Prima as that tends to be the version most people I know prefer. Sam Buttera plays Sax on it & he is a long time fav of my as well.

But thanks for putting me straight on that, you're quite correct :)


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

The Orchestra Ones are from 1999 I believe, not sure what the at Stray Cat one is from, but it's around early 84 at a guess


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

D'oh, I replied in wrong place lol

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3. myLot reputation of 68/100. visitorinvasion (3623)   ranked 2 out of 4 in brian setzer   6 years ago

Much better, cathead.
bookmarked ;)
Thanks!
PS: I still prefer the 1st 2 albums, but since there's some of that on there, I'm good to go.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Jaytech (675)   ranked 1 out of 4 in brian setzer  6 years ago

you just got too give it a few listens, it's good stuff. All musicians have to change & move on, otherwise they become bored. I've been there.

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