Should the Star Trek Universe still go on, and if so in what direction should it

I think that Enterprise just veered to much from what star trek should have been, into as you said to much tech, and to much hype, since the star trek of the timeline they did shouldn't have had so much tech in it. It should have been about the fumbling, and mistakes more of finding their way.

The formation of the Federation sounds like a good idea though. hmm not sure how the Earth's first war would go, but sounds interesting.

I think Enterprise was ruined by the introduction of the timeline story and the time 'wars' theme. It turned out to be a very feebele ending and just another way for Frakes to write himself into an episode!
Personally I would have liked to see the theme developed in its own time with all the clever references to things which were yet to come instead of them getting actively involved in the future.
I am also in favour of a 'Cadet Kirk' and his boys' own type adventures. I think that could be quite fun as long as it retained some of the old tongue in cheek bravado of the original series.

they are going to make a movie, and they are doing polls to see where fan opinions are at if you go to www.startrek.com you can see one of the polls for what they should call the new movie which is supposed to be released by Dec 2008.

How they will manage to release it by then when they haven't written it yet I am not sure but hey should be interesting.

Yes I agree Enterprise was full of mistakes, and there are still episodes I have missed of that series, it is the only one where there are gaps in my having seen the show.

They are re-running the series on sci fi and I am still missing episodes. I don't feel like I missed much.

Which is a shame, I liked the characters they created, I like Scott Bakula, but then the story lines were often such a waste of time, it was terribly disappointing.

I agree they need to avoid the past, since they have messed up the past so badly with Enterprise. I am an advocate of using the Peter David books and his Calhoun character and crew.

To me those stories have the best of the newer star trek, with the very best qualities of the original series.

When they started changing Star Trek's fictional history not only did they ruin the show, they to me any way showed disrespect to the creation of Star Trek.

Which is interesting. I worked in a book store for many years. There are strict very strict rules to writing a star trek novel.

If you don't follow the guidelines, and rules, and stay true to the story and show, then you can not write or get published your star trek novel.

It would have helped if someone had mentioned this to paramount, and the writers of the Enterprise series, it certainly seemed like they didn't care about any of that.

And here I thought no one really read that book but me, it is one of the funniest books I have ever read. I love the whole ice cream palour scene. It should have been made into a movie years ago when the cast was still alive, or young enough.

I agree with you. Even if you are not a Star Trek fan you would have to laugh over so many parts of that story.

That is a really great idea, it leaves so much open to explore, and while you can have some consistancy with some characters, you are not locked into anything, so that if there is a completely fun fluff show it is not that big of a deal, so long as it is consistant with the idea and history of the star trek universe, it doesn't necessarily have to be anything major.

That is really a great idea, thanks for sharing.

I was thinking about this, you could do even sort of mini series with say Ro after star fleet, or what about that time Vash spent in the Gamma Quadrant after she left with Q. Or what has happpened to the Continuium since the whole Q revolt against the status quo? John De Lancie certrainly has the flair for it, and his episodes always seem to have some great lines. Wesley's travels with the Traveler.
And Barkley is a great character to work with plenty of comedy to be found in him, with Dwight Schultz talent it would be good.

I think they should make the next movie with the Next Generation crew and Q. It should have been done a long time ago. At the end of TNG, Q told Picard that he would see him again somewhere out there. The great thing about making a movie with Q is that you can do anything. They are free to create almost any kind story they want. They could even combine the crews of all the shows. With that kind of freedom they should be able to come up with an amazing story. Here's hoping for a great movie.

I like that idea of using Q and combining the crews from the different shows. That sounds like it could be interesting, I wonder how though I mean to fit the time frame of a movie they need to be careful that they don't cut to much out of the story to prevent it from being a good story of some kind.

It seems most people feel that the whole time wars was what ruined the Enterprise show. Whic I do think had a nice potential since I liked some of the characters a lot. I did like some of the episodes, such as the one where Meriweather went back to see his family, the one where Trip got pregnant was funny, and the one when the Ferengi try to pirate the ship.

It is just that the whole Suliban time war thing messed up some big time.


It seems a lot of people are interested in seeing a new story from a Cadet or early Kirk perspective.

I think they need to make sure the character stays true to who the character was, they need to be careful.

Sometimes new writers who while fans of the show, put to much of what they personally would have wanted to happen, and forget to look at what did happen, and keep things in context.

One author who was able to blend a new idea, while keeping faith with the original ideals was A. C. Crispin in Yesterday's Son, and Time for Yesterday.

due to the age of the actor's these stories couldn't be made into movies now, but maybe people trying to write for a story line for star trek should read something like this to see how keep the integrity of the story and Star Trek history when introducing some new twists.

Another idea was that someone wrote about the Eugenics wars while not Star Trek's prettiest time in history would be interesting to explore.

Thanks for this excellent comment.

I, too, did enjoy episodes of Enterprise and some of the characters did develop well (T'pal, Trip...). And, I'll never forget the drunken Lt. Reed's statement "She's got a cute bum".

I also agree with you that if a Cadet Kirk were to be developed, it would be extremely important to keep the character intact. There could be some really good story lines there.

As for the age of the characters (actors as well), because of the "open" timeline available in Star Trek and the fact that humanoids live quite long, old characters could make appearances to intertwine the storylines while new characters could be introduced and developed.

Wow...cool - Thanks for "best response":)

I hadn't thought about the origin of the Borg, not a bad idea, I wonder if there is a book or possible movie idea floating out there for it.

It is hard Enterprise did kind of create a mess when it comes to the Star Trek realm, one that I suspect they are just going to ignore as though it didn't happen.

The Romulans are not a bad idea to go, the books that started with My Enemy My Ally are great that delve into the Romulan people, Not sure if you read any of them or not. There are five of them I think Rihannsu series of books that sound so good, it makes you want to know more about the Romulans. See how they evolved. That maybe they are not the big bad villians, that they were once thought to be.

If anything, it seemed that in TNG, Deep Space Nine, & Voyager, there has always been "The magnificent Seven" of the main characters. While we have seen the Next Generation crew in the subsequent movies, we know that they're alive & kicking, along with Worf, who also became part of the Deep Space Nine crew.

On Deep Space Nine, we saw the demise of Ben Sisko (who in the end, became one of the prophets himself). Odo, Chief O'Brien, Worf, & Garak all left the station for various reasons. I cannot remember if Dr Bashir opted to stay on board. I'm sure that Kira would probably have became the new station commander. I also cannot recall what Quark did either. It would be good to see how everyone got on with their new lives.

In Voyager, they probably had a certain time frame to fit in as much as they could. I never really felt that the ending was complete, with it ending with Voager arriving back in the Alpha Quadrant to be greeted by a fleet of starships to escort them home. If I rememebr, Admiral Paris led the fleet, & I would have loved to see how father & son dealt with each other, being that Admiral Paris was disappointed in his son, Tom, 7 years before. I'm sure those 7 years really changed him, not to mention that the Admiral was a grandfather. Then how would have the former members of the Marquis (Chaktay & Torres) been dealt with. Then what other changes did the other crew walk into? It is true that we saw Captain Janeway promoted to Admiral in Star Trek: Nemesis, so we know that her career is indeed on track.

I agree, I mean I knew they had to get home to end Voyager, they couldn't leave you hanging that much in the air, but I still felt like so much more could have been done for the final episode, And what if any effect would it have on the baby being born in what a worm hole, or whatever it was that caused Voyager to get home, since Tores supposedly delivered in between the Delta, and the Alpha quadrants,

How did Tom's father, react, and how would he have felt knowing his son designed and built a special ship specific to the needs they had in the Delta quadrant, I mean it was Tom who designed the Delta Flyer, Would that ship be obsolete in Alpha quadrant?

Would those members of the Maquis who earned their ranks etc, while on Voyager maintain those ranks? Remain in Starfleet? retire honorablly from Starfleet? Face charges for previous maquis acts that took place prior to everyone ending up in the Delta Quadrant, there are so many unanswered questions, and I am sure that eventually one of the authors will address this in the books, if they already haven't but while I think some of the books are fantastic, and I know they have strict rules to follow when writing a Star Trek novel, to keep things plausable and within the Star Trek realms and story lines, it is not the same thing.

Though several of the books are so true to the series' that they should be incorporated either into film, or even special one time tv movies, And I still think that the Peter David New Frontier books would be the best series if they stick to the basics that the author wrote, then they have a first class series. It also is key that those particular books are written in a part of space that is some what isolated, so they have more of the alone out there feel of the original series. No quick calls home for help.

I have got to see Nemesis again I can't for some reason remember much of that movie. I don't know why.

Should be interesting to see what if anything they can do,

Well, it does seem that both, Deep Space Nine & Voyager did leave a lot of unanswered questions when each series ended. My thinking was the reason they left things open-ended like that was so that if they ever do it, a movie or two might actually answer those questions. However, they sure went overboard with leaving Voyager open-ended. I think in this case, it was more because of time constraints.

yes I agree it is most likely due to time constraits with all those open ended questions for Voyager.

It would be very intersting to see if they could find a way to tie in several of these characters from the different shows to interact with each other.

While I don't think they should all just fall into each other's laps it would be ridiculous sometimes you think that they might over lap each other.

For instance the Dominion war, and the Enterprise never showed up for battle against them?

I liked DS9 a lot, and I am glad that they didn't have say the Enterprise come to the rescue, but one of the biggest battles of the Dominion War and the Enterprise wasn't there? Just seems odd.

I would love to know what happens with the various characters after the series ended, I suppose I should start watching for the new books it is likely that some author will come up with some ideas.

It is also likely that since the characters from DS9 were so scattered at the end of the series they will never do a movie, I mean how do you have them all come together again in a believable story line? One that isn't back tracking the characters in a somewhat unrealistic way.

yes I know unrealistic is what the show is, in that it is scifi, but I mean unrealistic to the universe created within the story guidelines.

For instance I think that Tim Russ is a good actor, and he did a good job with Tuvok it is just that well Vulcans are greenish if anything, so that was one area where they kind of goofed, fortunately as an actor he was good enough to pull it off.

Sorry for my late reply here, but I seem to have forgotten some names. They can get everyone together by maybe Qo'noS gets taken over by the Duras family, & these Klingons want to go & try to get rid of the Dominion in the Gamma Quadrant. Because of the war that thye had just won, most of the Klingon Defense Force would probably be assembled at Deep Space Nine. The Duras family wanting to attack The Dominion would bring Odo back, I'm sure.

Maybe to bring Ben Sisko back, have him make appearances as a prophet in selecting a new Kai - since Kai Winn died, & - well - that left Bajor with no spiritual leader.

Well - there is also always having an Enterprise mission take place in Bajoran space, but can you imagine the cost of paying all those main actors?

I'm also surprised that they didn't drag the Enterprise into it, not even a mere mention. However, if they did bring them in, an episode like that probably would have costed plenty.

Sorry for any delayed response haven't been online that much in the past few months, vacation, been sick, and death in the family has kept me busy.

I am sure an episode where the Enterprise was brought in would have cost a great deal, however not even mentioning where the ship was, or what it was doing etc during the Dominion War, I know that the focus of course was DS9 and Bajoran space since of course that is where the wormhole was, but still they made this whole big stand and the flagship of starfleet wasn't involved LOL even in mentioning? Go cheap lol hire an impressionist to do voices for communication from Enterprise with Sisko, wouldn't even have to show the dang ship. LOL

It would be interesting to see where the Romulans would be going from the point of the end of the Dominion War, I mean with working with Federation during the war they had a chance to check out what Starfleet might be capable of, and then there is the whole Unification thing Spock did in Next Generation.

So that brings up a lot of possiblities but then again Romulan Space and Bajoran Space are not necessarily near each other in the story lines.

With so many Klingons being still having such strong anti Romulan sentiments it could bring a lot of possiblities.