May 22, 2007 4:18am CST
I was recently reading a discussion on GW Bush. One of the related discussions made mention of unemployment rates of a different president. Who is not important. My opinions of Bush are not important. I just don't understand how people are so blind to the level of unemployment. They here the reports and think "oh unemployment has gone down". What they don't think about is that you are only entitled to unemployment compensation for 6 months. During those six months you count as being unemployed. When those 6 months are over you are no longer counted as being unemployed. That is why the numbers are so wrong. (I know this information cause a few years ago my hubby was laid off and this was told to me by an employee at Unemployment that this is how they count how many are unemployed. It took him 11 months to find work but as far as the government is concerned he was employed once his benefits ran out.) So my questions to you are do you think we are in a better place as far as unemployment levels? Or do you think that they go by these inaccurate numbers to make it seem better than it is? Also, do you think they should come out with a more accurate way of knowing how many people are unemployed?
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• United States
26 May 07
I'm sorry I didn't see this topic sooner, it is a good one. You are correct maildumpster, the unemployment figures are very skewed. You already mentioned how you can only receive benefits for 6 months before you are no longer counted. The vast majority of unemployed folks however don't qualify or file for unemployment at all. During my entire working life (and I've been out of work a lot) I have never filed or qualified for unemployment. If you leave a job voluntarily, or are fired with cause you can't even apply, and are therefore again not counted. Many people leaving jobs "at will" are really being given the options of quitting or getting fired. There is one other major thing that effects unemployment that is not taken into consideration either. That would be underemployment. These are the people who are working in low wage jobs with little or no benefits, working part time, or actually holding 2 or more low wage part-time jobs to try and survive. Those underemployed people are considered "gainfully employed." Sadly enough there is a growing gap in the job market. There *is* a war on the middle class going on. The middle of the road jobs that used to pay well have gone overseas in favor of cheaper labor. That leaves many with either the underemployed option, or the minority in egregiously high paying jobs such as upper management positions. I think we are far worse, and the unemployment and underemployment statistics are much higher than most people think or would like to believe. When Rome waged its war on the middle class is when the empire declined and fell. Historically we are following in their footsteps far more closely than I'd like to admit. Great topic.
• United States
28 May 07
Thanks for the praise. I think though that the government is well aware of the issues and the real facts. It is not something that current administration will want to point out however as it puts them in a bad light. I fully expect the democratic candiates to start bringing up these issues as we get closer to the election. One would hope at least.
26 May 07
it is sad to know how this problem has been gripping your country, too. people have now looked to having jobs in some companies as the primary source of income. the hard days have set in. it may be good to really bring out the true numbers of the unemployed. it might open up the eyes of the authorities as to how huge the numbers truly are. they might come up with programs and projects to be able to adress the problem squarely. now, we all know that this is not that easy to tackle with. but at least, it iwll be such consolation to note that something is being done somehow.