angry americans

@Ravenladyj (22902)
United States
August 28, 2007 7:07am CST
so my husband and i had an interesting conversation last night that started off with the school system here in the U.S and ended up us talking about how bitter, angry and negative the americans are and why.....It occured to me the WHY.....the U.S is the MOST powerful country in the world, its SUPPOSED TO BE the "land of the free" with opportunities a plenty and so on BUT the American citizen gets shafted so hard up the behind by the gove and the system on a regular basis more than IMO many other countries (mainly on a financial level above anything else)...Its no wonder ppl over here are so angry all the time..they are supposed to be living in the greatest country in all the freakin world but if you really think about it....are they? Americans are overworked, underpaid, the gov tries to be the super control in very sneaky ways, Americans are unappreciated more often than not and the list goes on...if you arent in a high income bracket you are "less than" and pretty much screwed on all levels..and if you are below poverty level FORGET IT...nobody gives a crap...if you are different to what the higher ups deem a standard socially you will get harrased, belittled, beat down on many levels, unaccepted and so on.... its no wonder ppl over here are as angry as they are any thoughts?
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@urbandekay (18278)
28 Aug 07
Now who told you US was the land of the free? You don't even have a free constitution, here in UK we are free to do whatever we please, provided there is no law against it, your constitution only grants you rights to do certain specified things! Even as your constitution was being written it was amended by vested interest. Seriously, whilst there are many admirable qualities about US society there is also some rather dark and sinister aspects all the best urban
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
28 Aug 07
uM first off its NOT MY constitution..I'm CANADIAN...secondly the U.S being the land of the free is standard belief..why do you think ppl are forever moving here...for freedom, opportunity and so on...
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@urbandekay (18278)
28 Aug 07
Well now, if you read your post it does say "...here in the US" which, without saying you are visiting, suggests you are from there. Many people move to US because it is a wealthy country; people care more about an empty belly than a supposed freedom. Whilst belief in US constitution as free is a common belief that does not mean it is true all the best urban
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
28 Aug 07
"here in UK we are free to do whatever we please, provided there is no law against it," If I wasn't already sitting on the floor I would have fallen on to it laughing after reading that statement. It's all in how many laws there are.
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@eden32 (3973)
• United States
28 Aug 07
I've got to disagree with you on a few points. I disagree that most American's "work hard". I can think of a few professions that require hard, physical labor but they are compensated well for it; masons, carpenters, trash collectors etc. I disagree that we are underpaid. We are greedy, fat, (mindless) consumers. Poverty doesn't mean going without cable or having a car that's more than 5 years old. Poverty is not having heat, or a bed, or enough food. Yes, there are some people living in those conditions here too; but we have many programs to help them. I do agree that government is way too involved in our private lives. It seems we become more subject to "big brother for your own good laws" every day.
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• United States
29 Aug 07
The problem is they make the programs too hard to get. My mother in law desperately needed medicaid and she made $13 too much. Thirteen dollars!!!! What can you buy with that??
• United States
30 Aug 07
I know what you mean clam. AT one point we HAD to apply for welfare. We were having trouble finding jobs (kinda hard when you are homeless) and we needed to eat and feed our daughters. I would love to know how I was going in to pick up my check with holes in my shoes and there were people in there dripping in gold and covered in full length leather!!!! We found an apartment but of our $488 in assitance $315 went to rent once we found a subsidized apartment! Then as soon as you start working they basically stop helping you. It is sick really. A few dollars can stand in the way of help that a person really needs.
• United States
28 Aug 07
You said: Americans are overworked, underpaid, the gov tries to be the super control in very sneaky ways, Americans are unappreciated more often than not and the list goes on...if you arent in a high income bracket you are "less than" and pretty much screwed on all levels..and if you are below poverty level FORGET IT...nobody gives a crap Not all Americans are overworked and underpaid but they are the growing segment!!! I wasn't disgruntled before Bush got in office. My hubby made half what he makes now and I didn't worry all the time about my bills. Ever since Bush started this war (which most forget was focused on Osama and NOT on Iraq) we have struggle more and more!!!! You are so right about being poor. A few years ago we applied for low income housing and were told our income was TOO LOW!!!! What??????? Not enough income for low income housing??? That's just crazy!! The other thing people are bent about is this senseless war that only serves to protect Bush and Chaney's oil interests and kill our men and women. I hate to say this but if the Iraqi people want to blow themselves up ... then let them!!! Let them figure out how to fix it; cause our being there isn't doing it!!
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
28 Aug 07
"You are so right about being poor. A few years ago we applied for low income housing and were told our income was TOO LOW!!!! " WHAT?! ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? thats absolutely SICK and BEYOND TWISTED!! ya we touched on the whole war thing too last night while we were talking and I cut that fairly short because it IS a senseless war and whats REALLY GROSS that my husband pointed out is all the horrid deaths arent even front section let alone front page news any more and that IMO is absolutely DISGUSTING! i dont even like talkin about it cause I have issues with war to begin with but the fact that its become "old hat" and "old news" even though ppl are dying every day over there fighting for something that country doesnt even want help with at this point just makes me want to retch
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• United States
28 Aug 07
Yep yep we were denied low income housing cause our income was too low. What blew my mind was that the rent we would have been paying in low income housing would have been lower than what we were originally paying!! You know what dawned on me the other day about low income housing? You can be low income and buy a low income property. Then you could better yourself and double or even triple your income but you still reap the benefits of the low mortgage or rent!! (My cousin bought a low income property after her divorce. She is now a nurse making loads more money but still has her cheap mortgage. Yet I can't even get a home of my own!)
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@devilsangel (1817)
• United States
29 Aug 07
Well I am neither bitter nor angry, and I love this country. See I have lived and worked in many different parts of the country and the world. I know what it is like in different areas and I am always greatful for what it is I have here. See the wonderful thing about living in the US is people can complain and moan about how much it sucks. No this country is not perfect but no place is. It is all in what you make it and no one is going to get a free handout just cause life is hard. Anything worth having is worth working for, so to sit and complain about how much something is or how little someone is doing for you is pointless. I think the problem is the laziness factor. People have gotten lazy and working hard to get futher in life seems to be to much for them. Everything has become now now now. My thing has always been this though, if a person doesn't like the way things work in this country, they can always leave and find somewhere else to live.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
29 Aug 07
Hello Devilsangel, When compared to our parents, our grandparents, and our great-grandparents, I'm the first to admit that I don't work nearly as hard as they did. Their commitment and perserverence was beyond admirable! I have a vacuum cleaner that cleans our floors. I have a washing machine that cleans our clothes. I have a computer that writes my words. I have an automobile to drive to the local grocery store, where I can purchase food stores that have been grown by another, for my convenience. I don't have to get up before the sun rises, and work 16 hours, passed sunset, just to put food on the table. You are so right on target, in your post. We are lazy and complacent. We've lost our ability to appreciate what we have. And, our willingness to not only maintain committed goals, but our willingness to work harder, and smarter to achieve those goals. When I was a kid (10yrs old), I went on a summer trip with a girl friend's family. We drove into the heart of Pennsylvania, and spent several weeks with my friend's uncle's family in Amish territory. Talk about an education in appreciation for life's conveniences. I've never again worked as long or hard as I did in those few weeks. After nearly three weeks of hauling full bales of hay, milking the cows, tending the fields and animal stock -- I was truly ready to go home. Yet, I couldn't be more thankful for that life-altering experience.
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• United States
29 Aug 07
I have to say that I agree with you 100%! Many people are lazy and don't want to work for the things they need/want. They want everything to be easy or handed to them. Many people feel that everyone owes them a living. Just like you said, get off your behind and get to work and be grateful and stop complaining! There are many people all over the world who would love to live here and have what we enjoy and take for granted.
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• United States
30 Aug 07
Spring you said "Many people are lazy and don't want to work for the things they need/want. They want everything to be easy or handed to them. Many people feel that everyone owes them a living. " I don't feel anyone owes me anything. I can no longer work outside the home because of illness AND taking care of my special needs son. As far as easy - not necessarily but it did annoy me that I can't become a lactation consultant and help mother's nurse their children cause I don't have a medical degree. I am not about to go become a nurse or something so I can become a lactation consultant. So yeah sometimes things could be easier; like in that case.
@wiccania (3360)
• United States
28 Aug 07
I'd say you've hit the nail on the head. The "privileged" class isn't so angry, because they don't have much to be angry about. But everyone else gets the shaft.
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• United States
4 Sep 07
You got that right. Who else but a privileged person like Nicole Richie would only get 82 hours in jail?
@Mare73 (1335)
• United States
28 Aug 07
Interesting topic, but long responses - which means it's good. IMO... I've lived here for 20+ years and believe me if I didn't have a good job or kids I would leave NYS FAST! We have the freaking highest tax in the damn nation which is ridiculous. The rich are getting richer and the poor are well getting poorer. That's a no-brainer. My frustration with the government (and yes I do vote so I can complain about the government all I want...) is that for starters they want everyone to be 'healthy' YET there is no aid or assistance for the farmers. The price of milk is MORE than gas - crazy! The health insurance is outrageously f...d up! My thing is the school system. I STRONGLY believe that ALL kids K-12 grade should wear some type of uniform. Here in Rochester, NY that idea is always shut down by the city school district because it 'violates' kids rights. What freaking rights??? They are not the ones working and having to dish out $200+ dollars to buy new clothes. When I worked in a private school one year and my kids were able to go it was SO MUCH easier with them wearing uniforms. Anyways, government and top people are all in cahoots together.
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
28 Aug 07
LOL ya know I always forget that you arent originally from here!..and omg dont DON'T get me started on this school thing....J and I talked about that last night too about the kids NOT having recess which is how the whole conversation started...and this No Child Left Behind crap pfft...though the CONCEPT is a great one..the IDEA of it is brilliant..too bad the way they are trying to pull it off is causing more damage to these kids than good.. AND OMG YOU ARE RIGHT..MILK IS MORE THAN GAS!! omg thats sick!
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
28 Aug 07
"Anyways, government and top people are all in cahoots together" HA its funny you would say that cause J was saying something VERY similar last night....
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• United States
29 Aug 07
I thought they changed the name of that program to, "no child left a dime"?
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• United States
28 Aug 07
Well, as an American, I know that I am angry about the education systems here (it takes too damn long to get through school), things are too expensive, and health care is a joke. "Land of the Free", "free" what? Everything is censored, and you have to pay for just about everything. Yes, sure we have it better than most countries, but not entirely.
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• United States
15 Sep 07
I agree. The gove tries to squeeze every last freaking dollar we make out of it. And usually succeeds. Now I do think we need certain taxes ect but COME ON!!
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
29 Aug 07
It depends on whether what you say is true. This is only your opinion, and if you say they are overworked and underpaid, some will not believe you. If you say the government is super controlling, some will not believe you. What you are doing is sprouting generalities. But if you say, that people in America are overworked, because they are working two or three part time jobs at minimum wages and they have to buy their own insurance because part time workers are not offered medical insurance, that we can understand. If you say that they do not get as many vacations and that they have to wait until they retire to go on extended vacations, that we will understand. If you say, because of 911, the government is controlling, that we will understand. I do not what standard the upper class have that the lower classes have, but if it was that they eat at tables, or do not come to breakfast in their pajamas, that is a standard we should all have. So I guess it is the lower classes that are more dissatisfied and I guess they deserve to feel that way, if they have the same manners as those above. If they are lax in manners and feel that they do not need to, because "we're country folk" then their dissatisfaction is undeserved.
@Zelmarq (12607)
• Cebu City, Philippines
29 Aug 07
Well, you can never realy say that until you see other countries suffering and not being able to put a decent meal on the table or even eat on complete meal in a day. I mean you have to be thankful sometimes because you are in America and you are an American citizen. Many countries especially the Philippines have this american dream to go there and be able to have a life. And they did, but all things goes with hard work and they are earning good enough to help those relatives left in the Philippines. Philippines is a very poor country and many work anywhere in the world just to get a good source of income to help their families, some work as nannies even if they were teachers here in the Philippines.I know the pay is not that big but it goes a long long way here and could help many. I hope you can be thankful americans rather than angry americans, count your blessings and thank God, thee are so many big reasons to be thankful for than to be angry for. Happy mytlotting.
• United States
30 Aug 07
I feel the same way...it seems the U.S is almost in poverty in a lot of ways..jobs going..going..gone.. gas is going up..up..up houses..well..if you don't already have one ..then how in the ..bleep..could you afford rent etc..without a job..u know.. no one cares..because the only one's that could truly help..are already rich...so they don't give a ..bleep..
• United States
30 Aug 07
Your right clam most people don't want to work for minimum wage. Actually I think it is more a matter of people can't live on minimum wage and unless they work more than one job. If they are working two jobs that is one less job available to others who may need it. Maybe the government should get their heads out of their rears and make minimum wage a living wage. Heck it would only help them in the end since that is more tax money available without having to raise the tax rate!
@MisterPlus (1915)
• Philippines
29 Aug 07
Who would think that there are Americans who suffer from poverty for America is a very powerful country. Should I stop about my American Dream for this? Maybe it's the anger that drove the Americans to be the best. They do their things to make the government do something about what they're angry about.
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@Daelin (683)
• Brazil
28 Aug 07
There is no paradise on Earth. The fact that USA is a country where people should find more opportunities doesn´t mean that everyone will have all the opportunities. People have to fight their way to sucess if they live in USA or in Iran. It might be easier if your country doesn´t punish you for expressing yourself or if the government doesn´t kill you if you talk against it. This freedom exist in other countries. It is something that exists in USA and it is in its constitution but you can find this principle in other constitutions around the world. As I said the fact that you live in a country where you can express yourself freely doesn´t lead you to happiness and sucess by itself. There are other factors that contribute to happiness. Said that we can see that one of the factors that will make a person angry is the failure of their plan to succed based on promisses made by the society. So you are wrong when you emply that USA is a perfect place where people should be happy all the time. But you are right when you point out that people are angry because they don´t have access to the american dream. They see in the movies and the press that USA is the land of opportunity, they see that everyone in the world envy the americans and want to go to USA (even if it is not true). They feel like they are been excluded from this opportunity and they will try to blame everyone. The imigrants, the government, other countries. They are unable to blame themselves for their failure. Maybe they feel like they were given the opportunity to study, to work in anything they wanted, to go wherever they wanted to go but they didn´t use this opportunity.
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