Obesity and Overweight is it in the appearance

@suspenseful (40312)
Canada
December 22, 2007 2:50pm CST
I am large boned and stocky built and according to the Weight rules am considered obese, yet I do not have soft flab nor do I go flippy flappy when I walk, there are no large bulges on my calves, etc. Yet because I wear more than someone who does, I am obese. Now I can understand someone who puffs a lot and cannot even go up one flight of stairs and has soft fat deposits, being considered obese, but people like me who are large boned, muscular, and can really move, do not get that tired and are energetic (oh and because of that, have a hard time losing weight, after all if you find it hard to move, you can take one step and you've lost calories, me I have to walk at least three quarter of an hour, do situps, and run about thirty seconds and still my heart does not beat faster. So do you suppose the medical community have it wrong, should they not say that if you have flabby fat, you are obese, but if you do not, you are overweight?
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@Umbra75 (56)
• United States
22 Dec 07
The medical community has had it wrong since all of these weight rules amd BMI's came out. Weight, in-and-of itself, has nothing to do with health. All of those weight rules are supposed to be nothing more than guidelines, giving doctors a reason to make sure their patients are healthy, then give them encouragement to continue being that way. Those guidelines were NOT supposed to be used to make healthy people feel bad about themselves for being outside of those "healthy weight" ranges. Unfortunately, that's all it seems doctors are doing to their 'heavier' patients; telling them that they need to lose the weight, or suffer who-knows how many problems because of it. As long as you're blood pressure is normal, your cholesterol is in check, your not breathing like a five-pack-a-day smoker during a walk, and you're healthy in every other way you can be, then give yourself permission to disregard anything those weight rules say you are supposed to be. They were meant to be a help, but really they're just another problem the medical field has inadvertently created.
@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
23 Dec 07
That is what bugs me. I have been trying to lose weight around my waist, but no matter how many walks I take, it does not work.
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@GardenGerty (128721)
• United States
23 Dec 07
Some people are built more squarely than others. They do not have the curvy waists that fashion dictates. I think that it is terrific that you are so healthy.
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@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
23 Dec 07
I used to have an hour glass figure. That is the trouble.
@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
22 Dec 07
I am also considered obese. I believe that it hast to do with being grossly overweight. It does not matter whether you are fat or skinny, if you are out of shape, you will huff and puff when you exert yourself. For me, I do not drive. I do a lot of working, so I could be in better shape then someone three times smaller than me who is always driving every where they go. It takes more than losing weight to be in good shape. This is why people who never gain any weight are always still exercising.
@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
23 Dec 07
I am considered obese but I can really move around, and I exercise and I do not huff and puff, and I do not look obese, no bulges, just solid.
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@Lakota12 (42678)
• United States
23 Dec 07
to me an obse person would be some one who is 5 ft. and weighs 300 pounds thats streaching it. that cant get up with out huffing and puffing now if that samr person weighed something like 150 that would be over weight but they would be able to walk run and do most any thing they wanted to do. BUt then I am 5ft.6in and have a belly that cant get rid of I have lost 15 pounds since my operation and that darn belly is stil there but I noticed the other day that It looked like finally it is going away yeah and all I am doing is exercises for my arms to get all my movement back in them do you think they are heling? I sure hope so
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@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
23 Dec 07
I won't tell you what I weigh, but sometimes I feel I must keep moving 24 hours a day, go without sleep just to lose even one pound. And you imagine me writing on a computer and moving around at the same time just to get rid of this roll around my hips?
@Lakota12 (42678)
• United States
24 Dec 07
thats bad that you feel that way but even with me at the puter I am never still I am always moving in my seat setting up straight slumoing down moving my feet and legs and then I jusmp up and go do something else even if I moved to the front room to watch a show with daighter and grand daughter and then we have the music on and dance around so we keep pretty active even thoough we dont go through a bunch of exercises and we walk almost every day. When its not to cold for the little one and us .
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@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
26 Dec 07
I feel I am not getting anywhere. I do not want to take diet pills, but I feel I will have to get on Relacore or that Slimquick to get any weight loss. If I never moved around, it would be different, but I do.
@sugarfloss (2140)
• Malaysia
23 Dec 07
hello suspenseful,I am big-boned too.I believe I'm fit but some may call me overweight.I agree that someone who's not flippy flappy is fit.Therefore you are not obese!
@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
27 Dec 07
Everytime I smile, I look as if I gained ten pounds. I have this thick neck.
@Polly1 (12646)
• United States
23 Dec 07
I wouldn't worry about it too much. I am a big girl too. If you can move, bend and are healthy then fooey on all the charts. It is true that some people have big problems with their weight, they know who they are. I want to lose some weight but I am not way over weight to go to extremes to do it. If that is your picture, you are chunky but so what. You are not that big.
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@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
23 Dec 07
And I always wanted to be slim. That is what was wrong with me, I am underly tall.
@GardenGerty (128721)
• United States
23 Dec 07
Some people who are large are just that, large. We cannot all be thin little waifs. I got very sick once, and I lost down to size ten, but I was so ill I began vomiting blood. I am not meant to be that small. A more real test of obesity is a body fat test. There are tests about measuring the fat on your abdomen and other places with calipers, or by water displacement, or with an electric current. One of my favorite health/obesity authors is Covert Bailey. He wrote several books on the theme of Fit or Fat. You would like to read it he says that you can be very trim looking and have fat all over inside, or you might be large and muscular, but people think of you as fat, because you do not mathc the insurance charts. The important thing to do is to know that you are in good health, and you sound like you are.
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@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
23 Dec 07
I have found there are some scales that measure water and fat. I know I have to be careful of salt, but even with that, I still am large. I guess I will have to get a body fat test and or one of those scales.
@slickcut (8141)
• United States
23 Dec 07
suspenseful, i know the difference between obese and large and there is a great deal of difference..I happen to think that people put to much into what a person weighs..I have a lot of large women in my family, my mother was one and so is my daughter..I happen to have taken after my dads side so i am not, but i do not think what a person weighs has anything to do with the worth of a person...I do not care what people think, i live my life the way i feel happy..if you are happy and healthy then just be happy, and if someone does not accept you as you are say goodbye to them and move on...It sounds like to me that you are a healthly happy person..i am not skinny or big but i am no twig either..I eat what i want and i do what i want,forget what doctors say.You do not have to weigh fetus size to live a long healthy life....
@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
23 Dec 07
I have an hour glass figure, but at my size and weight it is hard to find something that looks nice on you. I look like one of these overwearing dowagers - at least I would if it were not for my youngish looking-people take advantage of me-face.
@Grandmaof2 (7602)
• Canada
23 Dec 07
I'm no expert but I know I am obese. If that is the real you in your avatar I'd say maybe you're big boned but you sure are NOT obese. I don't know where they get their figures from. You sound very healthy as well so take care of yourself and don't worry about what is said. You'll know when you're too heavy believe me. Merry Christmas Suspenseful.
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@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
23 Dec 07
I have the bad luck of taking after my father. My brother is this tall skinny guy who takes after the other side of the family, except for my maternal grandmother, she was short, but my maternal grandfather was tall and so was my uncle. I always wanted to be slim.
• India
23 Dec 07
Hi suspenseful, Yes.Weight rules are very important. The weight is calculated according to the age and height.You can have a marginal increase say around 2kgs extra and that does not matter,but if your weight is more than that, you are obese.Obese means,not only looks and bulges and heart beatings, even a wieght increased person is also called obese.In some cases the herediatry factor play a role in case of looks. In some cases the person will look lean and he/she is obese. Now you should be very cautious and take care of your self because looking fat,bulgy and slight increase in heart beatings may rise at any time.You know very well that'prevention is better than cure' and do not ignore the advice of medical community. Good Luck.
@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
23 Dec 07
My family is all large boned. My father gradually went from slim to 250 lbs. and he was taller than I was, my mother was large boned but she was taller than I was. I take after my maternal grandmother in height, she was short, but my father in build. He was German and hefty. So I never did look lean. If you could see me as a little girl, you will see this stock little person who is shorter than most of her class.
@ssh123 (31086)
• India
23 Dec 07
I am not a medical man to answer your qeustion competently. But by and large,from the experiences and from the talks I had with the doctors, it is generally said obesity will cause a lot of problems. There is a specific chart as to how much one should put on weight at a given particular height and age. I my self experience obesity caused a lot of inconvenience in all aspects of life. It is decades ago, I started avoiding teh oily foods, fatty foods, junk foods. Now I feel health-wise very comfortable and digestive system is in right order. Also the periodic tests reveal that everthing is quite normal, whereas when I was putting on weight due to excessive eating, eating undesirable food items, my tests revealed that I had all sorts of problem from symptoms of diabetic, cholesterol and blood pressure. even the appetite was lost. So Obesity and overweight is not only from appearance point of view but also from health point of view is undesirable.
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@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
23 Dec 07
I know all that, but when someone has flab on them like bulges, it is a bit different from someone who is large boned, and is also very active and has a muscular build. I can really get around, walk all the time, exercise, but my metabolism is slow, and eat healthy. If someone else walks one mile at two miles an hour they will lose weight, but I will not. Also with the snow, I cannot run all the time. My blood pressure, cholestoral is okay and I am not diabetic.
• United States
23 Dec 07
These two words have different meanings. Obesity is a condition that is characterized as having excessive accumulation of body "fat". Overweight is weighing in excess of the norm for one's age, height and build. So obesity pertain's to the body's fat content and overweight pertains to the weight of the whole body. I don't think Dr.'s have it wrong, I think society has it wrong. Bay Lay Gray xx
• United States
23 Dec 07
Actually, that's wrong. "overweight" and "obese" are two levels of the same thing, according to the medical field. A person is either underweight, normal weight, overweight or obese. The BMI or weight charts don't discern bone density, muscle, or fat distribution. And generally if your weight falls under the "obese" category, unless you're built like Arnold, you will be told you have to lose weight. Yes, I agree that the media is "fat" sensitive, but the medical field really isn't much better.
@meme0907 (3481)
• United States
8 Jan 08
Hey s, I feel like the gage should have something to do w/ one's % total body fat not just the weight. Personally I think thin women are less attractive than thick it just looks unhealthy +'s |:)
@sharone74 (4838)
• United States
26 Dec 07
Obesity is the public watch word now for a condition known as morbid obesity, this being when a person is grossly overweight and continues with the same patterns even though they know that the extra weight on their person will eventually kill them. That is where the morbidity of the condition comes in. If you are exercising andsolid, with no health problems you probably are not morbidly obese. You are engaging in measures to lower your health risk and to loose the weight. Sustainedexercise of the heart is what is needed for weight loss and healthy heart muscles. You must keep your heart rate up for an extended period of time in order to loose weight. I am a dancer and instructor when I am not working if I continue to eat the same as when I am dancing 8 to 10 hours a day I begin togain weight. When I get back to work though it all melts off.
@chrislotz (8200)
• Canada
24 Dec 07
Well, I don't think your over weight either if your not fat. Just because your large doesn't mean your over weight either. Whats important is your physical strenght not the pounds you weigh. There is nothing unhealthy about you, I would say. You can do more physically then most thin people I know. I am overweight because I have the fatty tissue you are talking about. And I am one of the people you are talking about that can't run up the stairs or walk real fast for half an hour. Not that I'm obese, I'm only about 25 lbs. over weight.
• Philippines
23 Dec 07
I have a friend who told me that being obese have something to do with your height. The heights have their corresponding weights which will identify if you are obese or not. It's not always in the apperance of one person because there are some person who didn't look like one but they are. But don't get me wrong, I just learned about this things through my friends.
@academic2 (7005)
• Uganda
23 Dec 07
Trust these medical guys, they are scientific suspensful, they have very accurate ways of declaring someone obesse-look, the guys calculate your body weight and divide it with your height-if you exceed a certain thresshold, they will straight away declare obesse-so please try to understand them a little more before you prove them wrong-this is not to say, they are always right!
• Philippines
23 Dec 07
you should measure your basak metabolic rate:weight divided by the square of your height times 100.more than 29 is overweight, more than 30 is obese
@apsara60 (6611)
• Israel
23 Dec 07
Hello suspenseful, You have started a very interesting and important discussion. I have always felt very unfortunate as I always looked broad, which does not come in beauty....and this is a fact that we have to swallow even though it hurts. Just like you I am very active, I work at home and at office, I go for fast walking and don't even feel tired, I don't have any soft flab anywhere, but still I cannot say that I am beautiful, because I am broad. So what should people like us do, who have broad bones, dieting does not help. We are considered over weight because we have heavy bones, so how to loose this weight. Is there any way to reduce the weight of bones or it is heredity and has no solution.
@apsara60 (6611)
• Israel
23 Dec 07
Hello suspenseful, You have started a very interesting and important discussion. I have always felt very unfortunate as I always looked broad, which does not come in beauty....and this is a fact that we have to swallow even though it hurts. Just like you I am very active, I work at home and at office, I go for fast walking and don't even feel tired, I don't have any soft flab anywhere, but still I cannot say that I am beautiful, because I am broad. So what should people like us do, who have broad bones, dieting does not help. We are considered over weight because we have heavy bones, so how to loose this weight. Is there any way to reduce the weight of bones or it is heredity and has no solution.