In Hillary's hands - or not?

@coffeebreak (17815)
United States
February 4, 2008 2:31pm CST
In watching a news show, it came to my mind - with all these third world countries and other countries that are male "dominated" and where women dont have rights, can't vote, can't even show their faces in public and are half the time not even considered part of society, the USA does "business" with all these countires - Will they still "do business" with USA if Hillary is president? Will the men that run/rule these countries do business with a woman? I mean, think about it, they don't acknowledge their own women, so why should we think they will acknowledge a woman president and put their countries "business" in the hands of a woman? Do you think Iraq and Iran and all those male ruled countries will even speak to a female president? What do you think?
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@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
4 Feb 08
I think that she will have to prove herself to them more than a man would have to. The other thing to consider would be that they would by pass her and deal with Former President Clinton. She has to be careful or she could fall into the trap using Bill to help and in effect some would see that as he is the power. Toward the end of President Nixon's administration Kissinger and Westmorland were seen as the people to deal with.
@coffeebreak (17815)
• United States
5 Feb 08
Could be something shei s counting on! Let Bill do the work!
• Philippines
5 Feb 08
Hey don't underestimate what women can do. I know they should'nt or she should'nt interfere with boystuff but sometimes women are better leaders than men.
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@coffeebreak (17815)
• United States
6 Feb 08
No argument there at all.
@my52cents (569)
• United States
4 Feb 08
That's a great question! I think they probably will do business with her to some extent out of respect for the office/position, rather than just ignoring her, but I don't think they will take her as seriously or deal with her nearly in the same way they would a man. She'll certainly have to have a very strong, male Secretary of State to handle those situations. If they can hate the United States any more than they do, I think they will if we elect a female president. In my opinion.
@coffeebreak (17815)
• United States
5 Feb 08
and if she has to get a strong male secretary of state, then he is doing her job...
• United States
4 Feb 08
That's an interesting and poignant question Coffebreak. Will the third world male dominated countries deal with Hillary? Did they with Margret Thatcher? Interesting.
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@coffeebreak (17815)
• United States
5 Feb 08
That is a little different -there has always been a queen in England for the last many years. Thing is, the Prime Minister, formerly Tony Blair - seems he did more of the hands on work for the country than the queen did. Never heard her do or say much, but Tony was always in the news taking care of the country. Plus England is not a super power like USA is and doesn't do for the rest of the world that USA does and doesn't offer the near what USA offers.
• United States
5 Feb 08
Hi Coffeebreak...You're right, England is not the superpower that the US is...although they can hold their own... However, Margret Thatcher was not the 'queen', she too was the prime minister (before Tony Blair) and she was one tough cookie. Thanks for posting.
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@coffeebreak (17815)
• United States
5 Feb 08
You have a point.
@Fishmomma (11375)
• United States
4 Feb 08
I don't think this is a problem, as other countries have had female leaders. I'm more considered with how the leader handles the situation, as a good leader should be able to lead no matter what country we are talking about now.
@coffeebreak (17815)
• United States
5 Feb 08
But other countries are not a super power like USA is. Other countries don't have the workings USA does. Other countries rely on USA more than any other country. And if they don't feel a female is confident enough to take care of them....
@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
10 Feb 08
Other countries that had women as leaders you did not know their husbands. Like it or not Hillary is the wife of President Clinton and he will always be President Clinton. When she ran for the Senate in New York she was running on her husbands name. Notice that she when she ran for senator she dropped the Rottum in her name that she used all during her time as first lady. Hillary Rottum would not have been elected to the US Senate. The only connection she had with New York was that the state voted for William Clinton twice for President.
@coffeebreak (17815)
• United States
10 Feb 08
I had not noticed the name change... i did notice it once she got First Lady - it was just Hillary CLinton while they ran, but once in office, she the Rodham and I remmeber thinking, good grief what a show off! ANd now, no Rodham...interesting....
@barehugs (8985)
• Canada
5 Feb 08
Yup! These Muslim men will treat Hillary with the respect she deserves because she will be (as President) a World Power. These radical muslims know better than to downplay women, but they can get away with it, and they do. These same radicals are no worse than Joseph Ratzinger the 265th reigning Pope of the Holy Catholic Church who refuses to acknowledge the right of women to be ordained as Priests even tho the Church is getting desperate for new blood in the Ministry.
• United States
5 Feb 08
I found this an interesting post...that is until went anti women, and everything else!! My goodness!!
@coffeebreak (17815)
• United States
5 Feb 08
I don't think it went anti women, I just think that a woman president is just not what this country needs right now. Not to mention the wife of a previous president who's last term in office was full of such personal scandle, you know that is all going to come back to haunt us Americans! MEdia will see to that, and while she should be taking care of the country she will be defending herself, her husband and her personal baggage she brought with her. Plus, it was just discussion
• United States
4 Feb 08
it's an interesting question, but don't forget a third world male dominated country such as india elected it's first female prime minister (indira gandhi) more than 40 years ago. so in a way the US is the less progressive country in that aspect. also, condoleezza rice has been having diplomatic relations with all these countries for the past three years as secretary of state. so i think really anything is possible.
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@coffeebreak (17815)
• United States
5 Feb 08
I don't know about India, but with Connie Rice, yeah she has, but who has been her "boss", basically telling her what to do so the other countries know "where" it is coming from and who will have the final say...it's been a male......
@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
6 Feb 08
Indira Gandhi had a name, Gandhi, but again not a super power and I believe that China tried to attack India? The problem that Hillary has is her husband. They dealt with him in the past and if he says something is he a civilian or do they see him as the President?
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@Stiletto (4584)
5 Feb 08
Wouldn't be a problem. We had Margaret Thatcher as our prime minister for 11 years and no-one refused to talk or do business with us because she was a woman. Numerous other countries also have had or currently have female leaders and there doesn't seem to be a problem for them either. What matters most is how strong a leader is, not whether it's a man or woman. Thatcher was a tough cookie and I suspect Hillary Clinton would be the same.
@snowflake5 (1579)
• United States
5 Feb 08
I don't think it will be a problem at all. The most repressive country towards women is Saudi Arabia, and they dealt fine with Margaret Thatcher when she was Prime Minister of the UK, rolling out the red carpet for her when she made her state visit. As for other Muslim countries, believe it or not, quite a few are ahead of the USA in electing women leaders. eg Pakistan elected Benazir Bhutto in the 1990's, Bangladesh had a female prime minister, so did Indonesia and Turkey. These countries were all influenced by their local superpower, India, which elected Indira Gandhi in the 1970's - as soon as India elected a female leader, the others followed suit within a few decades. As for Europe, we are quite used to female leaders - The UK has had female prime mionister (Mrs Thatcher), France had a female prime minister (Edith Cresson), so has Norway, Portugal (back in the 1980's), Ukraine and Iceland. Germany is currently run by a woman, Angela Merkel. And in South America, Chile is run by a woman. So the USA has been quite backward on this issue. To be honest many of us in the rest of the world were wondering if it was down to some sort of Christian fundamentalism similar to the muslim fundamentalism in Saudi. I hope you elect Mrs Clinton - welcome to the modern world!