How can I forgive & forget?

March 12, 2008 10:10am CST
Some years ago, during a tough period in my marriage, my wife threw her wedding ring down the toilet and flushed it away. She immediately regretted it and I pulled up the drains looking for it but never found it. I bought her a new one but its always bothered me. To me that new ring is just a ring, the marriage ring, the one that was blessed in church has been flushed down the toilet. It was so nearly the case that the whole marriage followed it but we pulled through. I certainly didn't conduct myself well that night but I felt so betrayed, especially as I had done nothing in my eyes deserving of such a gesture. We are happily married still but this thing stays on my mind and is a raw nerve. I do not wear my wedding ring any more and I dont think I ever look at hers. I say I forgive, but inside I think I must not really forgive because I still am holding on to this and resenting it, feeling betrayed and hurt and refusing to get over it. I know it isn't really possible to forget but how can I truely forgive and what does it mean that the memory does not fade for me?
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@Nykkee (2522)
• Canada
12 Mar 08
I think it just means that the event really hurt you. Time does not heal all wounds. You can't expect it to just go away. But it's not worth giving up on your marriage either. I think what you should do is renew your vows. Have a second marraige ceremony on your anniversary and have the rings that you have now blessed, and makes your promises to one another again. Basically start over. Maybe then you will be able to let it go and not feel mad about it everyday.
12 Mar 08
Yeah, thats a good suggestion and a very good answer.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
12 Mar 08
oops...i responded before reading the responses....gave somewhat the same advice. Sorry I wasn't trying to copy.
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
13 Mar 08
I too thought of the same response that NYKEE had written. The moral of the story is that as long as you are happy but still have this hurt betrayal lurking somewhere within and are sentimental about the vows in church, it isbetter to get the ceremony done again. You can vow to each other that such a thing would never happen again.
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
12 Mar 08
I've been married 52 years to the same woman! I never had a wedding ring, and never missed it. My wife is a nurse, and because rings are unsanitary in a hospital setting she took her ring off, and has never worn it since. We were married in a Church, but that is not important in our lives.We raised 4 good boys and now have 4 Grandchildren. Life has been Great, and we are very Thankful for our Blessings. Your story touched me! But I'm wondering if you are putting too much emphases on the mundane, (rings) and not enough on your Blessings. Are you worried that God misses the ring that was blessed in Church? God is Love, and love is not gold or silver. Count your blessings (not your rings) and Be Thankful!
13 Mar 08
Maybe, the wedding ring has always been an important symbol to me, a reminder of my vow and also of some religious significance to me. We do indeed have many blessings and I think it would be way better if I was able to let this go, even laugh at it. Theres sure are a lot of good suggestions on here, plenty of wise experienced folk here at mylot. I think that following some of this advice here is going to help.
• United States
12 Mar 08
This incident happened some years ago? Don't get me wrong, throwing the wedding ring down the toilet was a horrible thing for your wife to do; but you said it yourself, she was immediately regretful of the action. I know nothing will replace the original ring, but is the ring what really shows the love you have for each other? All the ring is for, really, is to let others know that you are no longer available. If this issue is still causing problems then you and your wife never got past that incident. Do you truly love your wife? Or are you going to let something as material as a ring ruin your marriage? I'm not trying to be mean, so please don't take it as such. I'm just saying that the ring isn't the reason you love your wife. The ring is nothing more that a material item. Love comes from the heart, not a ring.
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13 Mar 08
No, Lovespecialangel, this isnt going to ruin our marriage, no worries there, I just think that I should be able to let this go by now. Have you ever had something come back to trouble you, some memory, that you just cant seem to get rid of though you want it to go away. I think my wife got over this time but it still troubles me, and I think it shouldn't any more. If I forgive, I tend to think the memory will dull and not hurt so much, that it still does hurt makes me think that maybe I've not managed to forgive still - hence the title of my discussion. Theres some great advice being put forward here. I'm glad I posted this because I think it will help and some of the stories are really insiteful. I dont think its so much the material nature of the ring as the symbolism of it and its demise that hurts. If it had just been thrown away in the heat of the moment, then we couldnt find it, that perhaps would not be such a pain. Putting it down the pan was maybe symbolic of how she felt about me at that time. Yet, while I'm a long way from being perfect, a long, long way, I didn't think I'd been such a bad husband. I've been faithful to my wife all our lives and cared for her through years of illness. but I digress...thanks for taking the time to respond.
• United States
15 Mar 08
I'm glad to hear that this isn't going to be something that ruins your marriage! I understand more where you are coming from now. Before my husband and I were married (we were engaged), he almost cheated on me with one of my friends. It took me a while to forgive him for what he had done, but I have. The memory is still there and will always be there, and it's still painful. Unfortunately those memories don't go away. I think what your wife did was a heat of the moment thing. Unfortunately when us women get mad like that we don't think about what we say or do until it's too late. I'm sure your wife hasn't forgotten about that moment and it's probably still painful to her as well. I wish I could tell you something that will help make the memory go away, but I haven't mastered that yet. All I can say is to try to focus more on the good that is between you two. Best wishes to you both!
@mbs730 (2147)
• Canada
13 Mar 08
Wow, not sure what to say about that. Thats pretty extreme and if I was in your position I would feel the same way. My husband did something that I have never forgiven him for either. Maybe I am wrong but I can't help how I feel. When my daughter was born, he didn't bother visiting me until the evening of the second day of her birth in the hospital. Nor did I even get a call from him. He had been sick, I guess the whole event overwhelmed him and it was BAD enough that he whined about how sick he was and whined how he had no sleep because of it considering I was the one who went through the trauma AND I was the one who NEEDED sleep and didn't get it... but he also lied about staying home and resting that day. I found out that he went to his mother's (who I despise) to set up a fund for our daughter.. mom in law is superficial and materialistic. Hubby also at that time (he is more educated now) cared only about that. This was almost 6 years ago.. but I still have a hard time truly forgiving him for this. Now listen, I have done plenty of not so nice things behind his back too, like somethings I pulled that I wasn't honest about... and I know 2 wrongs don't make a right but what he did was worse. And as far as forgiving, I have a hard time doing that to begin with. Logically I know, if you don't move on it hurts you in the end but... sometimes how can you get rid of that feeling and truly move on? I am with you on wondering how to do it too.
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@mbs730 (2147)
• Canada
13 Mar 08
OH gosh sorry about that!!! I didn't mean to flood, it was taking forever to post and I kept refreshing the page and copying my answer!!!! SORRY
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
12 Mar 08
It is not good for either of you or your marriage that you still hold a grudge about this. You say that you love her and besides this are happy together. How about renewing your vows and getting the new ring blessed in the church? You pulled through a tough time together and that is something to be proud of. I say, marry her all over again.
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13 Mar 08
I saw your response further up the board - they say great minds think alike! This advice seems good to me, I think it could be the way to go. Maybe even a second honeymoon, I've heard people say that gave their marriage a new lease of life.
@gemini_rose (16264)
12 Mar 08
A wedding ring is precious, its blessed and you give them to each other on the day that you declare your love for each other in front of everyone who knows you and to some people that ring signifies everything, and when someone can disregard it and all that it means and represents in a heartbeat it is just crushing. I am still married but something happened in my marriage to break the special bond and blessing of my ring and from the day it happened I took it off and have never put it back on since because to me everything it stood for and signified was broken. I too cant forget it and maybe never fully forgive, he bought me another one to try and mend the damage, but it wasnt blessed and so it wasnt the same, I wear it but it has no real meaning like the first one. Im not sure that the memory will totally fade.
@gemini_rose (16264)
13 Mar 08
Putting your own ring on could be a start, but its still not the same is it? For me the only thing that I would feel at peace with is having the new rings we have blessed, I would say renew the vows, but I think they would have to be a different set of vows that are renewed, things have changed and so that has to change, its funny how such a small thing to one is a totally huge thing to others. I hope that you can find a solution and a way to put things right, as I am sure I will with time.
13 Mar 08
ah, I see we are both reading from the same page. My wedding day was one of, if not the most significant days of my life. I remember it so well even 18 years on, including all that the priest said. The symbolism within the ceremony is important to me so perhaps the signifcance of the ring is greater for me than it might be for others. I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps putting mine back on would be the start. No one has suggested that yet but as I read through all these responses its a thought that comes to me again and again. Reading your response I can see that you know how I feel, and in a strange way, what you have written draws my attention back to my own discarding of my ring albeit in not such a dramatic fashion.
@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
12 Mar 08
..I think it's because she hurt you.. also that it's possible it opened up a past wound..? I think that happens a lot.. and is really quite common.. - I was estranged from my (birth) family for 15 years.. I had a terrible childhood.. along with my siblings. The only way I could forgive.. well, actually I couldn't forgive, but I happened to be one of those people who when they found Jesus, needed him in a bad way, having lots of holes and wounds in me which only he can fill and heal.. along with that (along with Him) came the ability to forgive, and now I love my parents with a very tender and protective love and have for many years.. Which most people, if I share my history, can't believe it! :)
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13 Mar 08
Yes, it did hurt, and as someone who did find Jesus, or rather was found by Jesus, forgiveness is important to me and it troubles me that even after a fair few years now this is still a painful memory for me and comes into my thoughts more than I would like it to. Sometimes I wish I could just laugh at it, it would be almost funny if it was in a TV comedy, but instead it hurts. Its an interesting point you make about opening up a past would. Really there are only two memories like this one that still trouble me. The other was when my mother beat me with a stick. She only beat me once ever but I just came home and she started asking me all sorts of strange questions I couln't answer. When I didn't give her the answers she wanted she beat me and beat me. I've never forgotten that and although I forgave her and forgive her the memory still haunts me. In the same way the memory of that night still haunts me. I think because it was a tough time in general, my emotions were already high, but then the symbolism of the act, I'd have thought I could let it go by now. I want to, because we still love each other. I dont throw it back at her. I guess we can forgive but not necesssarily forget.
• United States
12 Mar 08
I think at some time or another, we've all wanted to do the same thing, but most of us just didn't have the nerve. What's most important is that your marriage is still "there", even though the ring isn't. My husband and I neither one has the same ring we got married with, we both gained weight in our fingers, ha ha, and rather than have them stretched we just bought new ones.
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13 Mar 08
Do you still have the originals? Yes, we too have gained a little around our fingers. My ring sits in a cupboard. Someday I mean to put it back on, but I never do. Maybe I should buy a new one and take up some of that earlier advice given here, we could both have new rings.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
12 Mar 08
Hi Norfolk_Jim, Forgiving in never easy but it is very necessary. Forgetting seems to be even harder. The fact that it still bothers you means that it is hurting you. Forgiving always helps the one who forgives. If you can't work it out and it continues to bother you, seek professional help. Blessings.
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@crazed_moma (1054)
• United States
13 Mar 08
I'm sorry that must stink. Staying angry and carrying the resentment only hurts you though. This sounds really hokey but write on a piece of paper and burn it. There's no way to make up for it.
• United States
13 Mar 08
There you go Jim. :) LAughter is always the best medicine. ;)
13 Mar 08
The drains certainly did. If I can laugh about it, maybe it is a start to getting over it.
• United States
26 Mar 08
I think the gusture of her flushing her wedding ring in the toilet hurt you badly,which you may never get over because if it was me i don't think i could forgive if my husband flushed his.To me is says its over and you mean nothing or your feeling,I would say talk to her about it,but there really isn't much she could do to change what she did.Some how you will figure it out and I really hope you do,It would be good for you to forgive not forget because you probably never will.
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
29 Mar 08
At the time she may have been thinking things were over, but it has been a long time and their problems have been worked through. Things have changed for the better.
@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
13 Mar 08
forgiving a person is easy to do but it's hard to forget what somebody did on you...i really upset many times and i forgive the person did it to me but until now i can't forget what they did...this is the battle that i always fight every second of my life to that i must learn how to forgive and how to forget...i tried many time to forget but i seems it doesn't work...hope i will win this battle.
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• Philippines
13 Mar 08
Sometimes people do stupid things especially when were emotional and so angry with the person were arguing with. I think didn't mean to hurt you that bad, she's moved on after accepting that she regretted the way she acted and throwing your wedding ring down the toilet. Don't you think it's about time to move on,too and stop thinking about it? Thing is, marriage is not just about the wedding ring, it's about love and commitment for each other.
14 Mar 08
Well yes, it is time to move on, I've tried to do so, but it keeps getting in the way (Smile). I think that as something sybolic was lost and the method of its loss was also symbolic, what will help will be another symbolic act that brings it to a close. If you look at the reply to the response above you'll see what I have in mind.
@thedaddym (1731)
• United States
27 Mar 08
I know that this is something that has bothered you, but your wife had a momentary laps in judgement. Have you never had a momentary laps in judgement, would you like to be judged for it for the rest of your life? Yes this hurt, but if you want your marriage to move forward and be free of resentment you need to let this go. We all make mistakes. If the marriage has moved on beyond what ever problems you were having at that time, you must move past this. Don't let this ruin your marriage and stop punishing your wife, the situation must have been really terrible for her to do that in the first place, but things are better now and you have worked past what ever problems you were having. Let this go, for the sake of your marriage. Renew your vowels as someone else said. That is a good idea.
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
29 Mar 08
I agree with thedaddym. You need to move past this. Forgive and forget and quit punishing your wife. She is more important than a peice of jewelry isn't she. Stop holding your marriage in the past, and move on to the present and future. We all do stupid things in life. We don't want to constantly be reminded of them. Let your wife off the hook, for both of your sakes.
• India
13 Mar 08
A whole lot of responses went through my mind and I’ll say as I feel it. Firstly my sincere sympathies with you and I agree wholeheartedly too. As Bengali Hindus don’t have any wedding ring but we have a wedding saree and no amount of more expensive sarees that my hubby buys for me later, can ever compare to my wedding saree. I cant wear it everyday and in old age, I wont be able to carry it off too, but its one of my most precious possessions. So I understand that buying another wedding ring is not the same as the one you slipped on her finger. Secondly, as you are still happily married, I think you should take solace from the fact that she is more repentant and guilty-conscience for flushing the ring than you are for your behaviour and your not wearing your own ring is a kind of psychological torture to her. But above all, do remember that human life is transient, memory is permanent. If your wife goes before you, you will be left with remorse at having never been able to forgive her and then you will never forgive yourself either but by then it will be too late. So even if you cant forgive and forget, argue about it sometime, do let her know how hurt you were, rub it in real bad, make her cry, do whatever it takes to make you feel better, but wear your wedding ring.
14 Mar 08
I think that forgiveness is an act and a choice we make, but it is easy to say "I forgive". Unless the words are accompanied by an action of the heart, I question if I have truely forgiven. I have found that when I forgive a wrong, I dont completly forget it, if it was a serious wrong, but the sting, pain, hurt, whatever you wish greatly dininishes. The pain of this act has not diminished yet even though years have passed causing me to doubt the sincerity of my forgiveness, hence the questin. I never knew that hindus had a wedding Saree, thanks for sharing that.
@sahyd2don (2942)
• India
13 Mar 08
Dude I think you have to forgive her cause you have to live whole life with her. you can't live with her properly whole life if you have something about her in your heart. It's true that her act heart you, but you should have the habit of forgiveness. Many such events may take place in your life, You have to neglect them for smooth flow of your life. If she have ask pardon from you then forgive her as if she have don nothing. for example if your children do something which heart you, don't you forgive them??? because you love them. Life is full of hurdles. you have to take act according to the situation. You can't give her divorce for silly reasons, so its better to for give her or any one if you want to compromise with the situation.
@sahyd2don (2942)
• India
13 Mar 08
correction.... It's true that her act hurt you, but you should have the habit of forgiveness. Many such events may take place in your life, You have to neglect them for smooth flow of your life. If she have ask pardon from you then forgive her as if she have don nothing. for example if your children do something which hurt you, don't you forgive them??? because you love them. Life is full of hurdles. You have to act according to the situation. You can't give her divorce for silly reasons, so it's better to forgive her or any one, if you want to compromise with the situation.
• China
13 Mar 08
The essence is your love to her, not the ring to her. Ask yourself whether you would still love her, even though she would keep her regular action or emotions. Will you forgive her twice if she would hurt you in the future. That is the point.
13 Mar 08
She has forgiven me so many things, how could I not do the same. But also when we forgive, maybe it should not feature in our thoughts as much as this has done.
@hyzz1982 (1040)
• China
13 Mar 08
i'm sorry to hear your story. i have similar feeling with you. two years ago, my miss right bought me a beautiful coat when i was birthday, but days ago she quarrl with me , and asked me give the coat back, i did so, she throw it into the garbage. there are many similar things. i but her ring, i but her watch, i buy her necklace....... she drop them all when she was agry. after doing that she would ask me to forgive her. i don't care about the ring the necklace. but i do care about the feelings.
13 Mar 08
Yes, feelings, we seem to have so little control over our feelings yet I've heard people teach that we choose our feelings. I dont know if that is true or not. Time should help but not always.
@clowdine (1402)
• Philippines
13 Mar 08
I would probably feel the same way had it occured to me. However, getting assured constantly by your wife that she really loves you and she regretted having done that and will never do the same thing is something to consider. After all, what matters is how both of you hold on to your oath when you got married that you would take care of each other and will fulfill your duties as a couple. That ring is sentimental but I think it's time for you to let go of that. It would be best if you forgive her now. We have to remember, it is also a way that God may forgive our own sins if we forgive others who sin against us. Matthew 6:14-15 says: For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Being challenged by situations like that is actually a blessing in disguise. Like every one else, I have sinned against other people too and I just think that by being treated bad by others (in some other ocassions) and forgiving them for that is a chance for me to be forgiven by God for those trespasses I committed in the past, especially if I don't have a chance to talk to the people I should ask forgiveness from. Just a thought.
14 Mar 08
I think we've both pretty much fulfilled our vows to each other over the years and all that you say is party of the reason why I feel this IS something that really shouldnt be lingering on with me. Its not because of lack of desire, but difficulty turning desire into reality.
13 Mar 08
well man ur wife is whom u luv and she too regretted of losing the ring. it happened by chance.. not really her fault
14 Mar 08
If it had been by chance, I'd have thought nothing of it, gave her comfort and let it go as one of those things that happen. It was because it was deliberately flushed down the toilet and not even in the heat of argument that it troubled me so much. After all, at that time I had stood with my wife through thick and thin and although I am not perfect and have surely hurt her in the past, at that time it seemed so personal, it just really got to me. Of course I did forgive and we are still together but this is still sharp to me and I would have thought it would have softened up by now. Have I really forgiven? The ideas shared here though are definitely good ones to put into action and I think they will gemuinely help.