Rebate or Advance?
By Modestah
@Modestah (11177)
United States
March 20, 2008 5:07pm CST
I am still quite confused by this - and the IRS website does not explain it, or at least I could not find where it did.
Is the Gov't really GIVING us money as some sort of stimulus towards helping the economy?
or
Is it merely estimating what our tax returns will end up being next year should we have one, and giving it to us now (or at least a big portion of it?)
If it is the later, then how is it helping us, really? sure nice to get a bonus this year but we will be struggling all the more next year because of it. I think that wise people will not be spending their stimulus but rather putting it into a savings (interest bearing?) so that when taxes are filed next year and the gov't wants this money back it will be there, waiting.
If this is our money (i.e. the advance) then how thoughtful it is for the gov't to tell us to spend it frivolously on glitz and bling that we ill can afford. With our national deficit being so great, I hardly think big brother is the one to turn to for financial advice!
will a tax cut this year send us a taxing increase in the next?
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12 responses
@ctrymuziklvr (11057)
• United States
20 Mar 08
Reading your discussion I became curious and started searching and this is what I came up with:
According to the IRS, you will not owe taxes on your rebate when you file your 2008 income tax return. However, you should keep a copy of the IRS letter you receive later this year listing the amount of your payment. In the event you do not qualify for the full amount this year but you do next year, you will need to have the letter as a record of the amount you previously received.
In addition, your tax rebate will not reduce your refund or increase the amount you owe when you file your 2008 tax return.
I hope it helps!
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
20 Mar 08
My husband and I were curious about this too. Thanks for posting the discussion Modestah and for your reply ctry.@kimbers867 (2539)
• United States
21 Mar 08
Oh I this is the way it will stay ctrymuziklvr. I remember in 2001 we got the 1099 to we had to claim that tax rebate. It will be interesting.
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@Fishmomma (11658)
• United States
21 Mar 08
The last time we received money from this "rebate" it had to be filled into the tax form and it was taxed for people that earned more than a certain amount. It might be great for people getting money back already, but we pay out every single year.
I told my husband we should just mail it back. Its suppose to help the economy, but many will use it to pay bills. If it arrives before April 15th, then its headed to the IRS.
@crazynurse (7482)
• United States
21 Mar 08
Modesta I am so glad that you posted this discussion as I had been wondering the same thing! I had read some things very similar to what you describe which indicated that the 'bonus' was actually an 'advance' on next year's refund. I was happy to see countrymusiclover's response and do hope vehemently that what that response indicates is indeed true. I can't imagine getting a 'windfall' this year only to suffer next year...in fact, I would just rather not get it if that were the case! Again, thanks for a great post!
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@coffeebreak (17797)
• United States
21 Mar 08
Ops..gave the wrong discussion:
Heres the link to the article I found telling all about the "rebate" check soming this summer......
http://finance.yahoo.com/taxes/article/104417/Tax-Rebate-Winners-and-Losers
I coyp and paste a portion here:
Will a refund affect my rebate?
Speaking of refunds, some folks have expressed concern that if their 2007 return gets them tax money back, they won't get a rebate check. Not to worry."Your refund has nothing to do with it," says Scharin. "The rebate is treated as if you gave the government extra money and then it is sending it back to you. It's sort of like extra withholding."In fact, although the rebates will be determined by your 2007 tax filing data, the money actually is officially an
"advance credit payment" against your 2008 income.
So it has no bearing on your 2007 taxes, whether you owe or get a refund.
And that leads to our last frequently asked question, or rather questions.
What will the rebate mean to my 2008 taxes?Will I owe taxes on my rebate amount next year? What if this year my situation changes and that means my rebate amount should be less?For most filers, says Luscombe, this year's rebate will appear as a simple gift from the government. The rebate amounts are tax-free.
But filers will have to reconcile any money they receive this year when they file their 2008 returns."It harks back to the 2001 situation when we got the new 10 percent bracket and got an advance check for that. Then on next return had to account for it," says Luscombe. "It's expected to be that way this time."
*******The 2008 tax forms should have a line for the new credit. When calculating taxes next year, taxpayers will have to subtract what they got as a rebate check the previous summer.*********
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@coffeebreak (17797)
• United States
22 Mar 08
Well, the article is from the ones doing the changes and the "terms" are stated there. No, you won't owe next year based on this for instance if you are getting $500 this summer and when you file 2008 next year and your refund is $1,000, you deduct this years $500 and your refund next year is only $500. It is not earned income so you do not have to pay taxes on it next year. If you refund next year is $500 and you get $500 this year, you zero out and get nothing next year. And if your refund next year is $300 and you get $500 this year, you zero out - you don't "owe" the other $200.
The article says they are adding a line to the 1040's to accomodate this 'calculation". Just keep this check and have it so next yaer you have the right amount to put on that line.
@coffeebreak (17797)
• United States
21 Mar 08
Here's the discussion I started and the link that I had to read about it
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1428132.aspx?p=2#2_16811091
It is an "advance" on what your refund will be next year. It is not taxable income, next year, just a deduction from what your refund will be. If you get $500 this summer, next year you do your 2008 1040's and your refund is $1,000, you deduct the $500 from this summer and you only get a refund of $500, not the $1,000. It won't make you owe if you refund is only $200 and you got $500, it only reduces what you get - doesn't tax anything, doesn't make you owe anything.
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@schilds (410)
• United States
23 Mar 08
It is an advance on next years refund. But, they added a credit for next years taxes to cover it. So, if you get $600 this year, but qualify for a $900 credit next year you will get an additional $300. Most of us will come out even, but no one can be penalized - If the IRS pays you too much on your advance they cannot make you pay it back - it is considered a gift. You would deduct this payment from the extra credit, not your refund.
@schilds (410)
• United States
21 Mar 08
It is an advance on a credit that will be on next years taxes. So, they passed a credit for 2008 tax year since it was too late to add it to 2007 - and they will give it to us early. There will be no taxes on this money since it is money we would get back next year anyway, and if next year you actually qualify for less you won't have to pay back the difference, but if you qualify for more you will get the additional credit.
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@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
26 Mar 08
they will probably do neither, it makes great press to claim that you are going to put some money back into the pocket of the people it came from but the fine print reqirements to qualify for such financial aid will prevent all but a few people from cashing in on this stimulus bill.
@jillhill (37353)
• United States
21 Mar 08
The way I understood, it is an advance on your next years tax return. I am all for something the pumps up the economy as the alterative would not be pretty. I do however not agree with helping out the banks that made bad loans to people that could not afford them. They were sticking out their necks and should have to take responsibility for what they did.
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@lightningd (1039)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Yes, you will have to claim it as income on next year's taxes, however, if you received a refund this past year, chances are, you will not be greatly affected by it. It will basically be considered income, not an advance on your refund for next year. It is not a loan. It is considered as income. You will have to pay taxes on a portion of it next year. However, depending on the number of dependents, and based on the fact that it is 300 per person, it's most likely only going to reduce your next years refund by roughly 15$ per person you received the advance for.
@schilds (410)
• United States
23 Mar 08
Here is a page that has some answers: www.bankrate.com/brm/itax/new/taxguide/2008021_tax_rebate_plan_faq_a1.asp
On the 3rd page it addresses this question. I would post the paragraph, but I cant copy and paste. It says 2008 tax forms will have a line for the credit, and a line for the rebate received. It is saying that you just wont get the credit next year if you get a rebate this year.

@babystar22 (127)
• United States
21 Mar 08
I have not read this myself nor do i know it to be true for a FACT however, someone told me our government took a loan out from china to give us this money as a loan. We will have to pay it back out of our taxes in years to come.So next year or whatever we will get less of a return ....as i understand it. Well hope this sheds some light.










