Can science and religion be compatible or at odds

@gewcew23 (8010)
United States
April 10, 2008 4:42pm CST
My question is this: Is there any happy medium between science and religion. I know that most scientist are athesit, and most religious are not scientist, but I also know that there are some that believe that science and God can be one and the same. Take for instance evolution, or the Big Bang. Majority of those that believe in evolution, and the Big Bang, do not believe a God. Most religious believe that any believe in evolution, and the Big Bang are basicly heretics. I am just wondering if someone who believes in God can also believe in science.
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@deebomb (15319)
• United States
11 Apr 08
It isn't science that religious people have a problem with it is evolution that religion has a problem with. You can find a lot of science in the bible if you look for it. I don't believe in the evolution because to many time the dating method is very flawed. The RATE group in 1997 did a carbon rating test on coal from 10 different sites and found them to be less than 100,00 years old. These scientists were Larry Vardiman, PhD Atmospheric Science Russell Humphreys, PhD Physics Eugene Chaffin, PhD Physics John Baumgardner, PhD Geophysics Donald DeYoung, PhD Physics Steven Austin, PhD Geology Andrew Snelling, PhD Geology Steven Boyd, PhD Hebraic and Cognate Studies
• India
12 Apr 08
Young Earth Guys!!! But there are lot of Old Earth guys who believe otherwise. I think attacking carbon dating system does not help YEC cause so much because applying different techniques we can have a fair amount of accuracy. For the YEC another real problem is with the speed of light. I wonder how using the speed of light @ 300,000 km/sec they would defend that the earth is 10,000 years old. I listened to an argument by YEC, but found it quite unconvincing. Rev. John Polkinghorne, a mathematical physisist at Cambridge, perhaps one finest scientist theologian, would definitely disagree with those guys regarding the age of the universe.
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@Lindalinda (4112)
• Canada
11 Apr 08
Of course there are scientists who believe in God and there are many Christians and believers in other religions who are also scientists. I think evolution and the bible are compatible if you take the bible as allegorical and not literal. I believe even Einstain believed in God. If you ever took a poll of all the American astronauts (they are scientists also) you would find many that also believe in God.
• India
11 Apr 08
Yes, there is a happy medium. I doubt that most scientists are atheist. Prof. Henry Schaefer of Yale in his book Science and Christianity: Conflict or Coherence, published in 2006, says that there are only two atheists Chemistry prof out of 50 of them. And Richard Bube, chairman of Dept of Material Science at Standford Univ under whom 56 Ph.D scholars had successfuly finished their doctoral remarked that there are as many atheistic truck drivers as atheistic scientists. In fact, if we read the history of Science scientists like Kepler, Polanyi, Newton, Boyle, Pascal, Faraday, Maxwell, Stokes, Kelvin, J.J. Thomson, Coulson et al are all Christians. Even today Scientists like Francis Collins, National Director of Human Genome Project, is a scientist and he believes in both evolution and Big Bang. There are prolific theologians like John Polkinhorne, also a mathematical Physicist, Alister McGrath, also a molecular biophysists who are engaging with interaction between Christian religion and science. Faraday Institute of Science and Religion has all sorts of lectures and articles by finest Scientists in their own discipline, trying to integrate Science and Christian Religion... and nobody considers them as heretics, both in Science as well in Christian Religion. Regards, headhunter525
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• United States
10 Apr 08
I think there are a select few who can see things that lie in the grey area. Those who truly have a relationship with God, and seek His infinite wisdom, can see the truth in SOME science. And those who truly love science, and don't try to use it to disprove God will see the truth in His existence. As for the religion part of your question, God isn't interested in Religion, He is interested in a relationship. So religion and science will always but heads, and the reason I see for that, is the fact they are out to prove each other wrong, and it will never happen. If God designed this world, the inhabitants of it, and the universe that surrounds, than surely he understands science for he created it too. But the people of this world will not live to see the truth in that statement, because their intentions are out of whack.
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@gewcew23 (8010)
• United States
10 Apr 08
Do you believe that someone can but their faith in God, but still believe in evolution. Maybe even believe that God used evolution to create all living thing.
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• United States
11 Apr 08
Definitely, beyond a shadow of doubt! But I also think many scientists have warped their findings to satisfy their own agenda. So, until scientists can see it from this view, there will always be errors and holes in the evolution theory. I don't believe the part where we came from a completely different species, God said he created man in his image, and out of the dust of the earth. Maybe scientist should try to figure out how that could be, instead following their own fairytale. I do, however, believe all creatures go through an amount of mutation, or change. We adapt to our surroundings, some attributes become dormant, while others become active. Look at recessive genes, I believe God designed us this way, so we could fulfill his first command, to fill the earth and subdue it. When people began, we only inhabited a small part of the planet. Life is different from continents to continent. So there had to be some way for man to be able to survive in his environment, no matter what it was;cold, rainy, dry, hot, frozen...you get the idea?
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• United States
11 Apr 08
There are those few scientists who have just recently begun to admit that evolution is an impossible theory as a whole. There had to be a beginning. There have been recent discoveries that have led to discussions in the scientific world of a creation theory. There is an interesting website you can go to that explains a lot more than I can. http://www.talkorigins.org/ It also talks about the christian belief in evolution. ie: the reason certain germs and bacteria become immune to antibiotics, killer bees, things like that. My hope is that someday people will realize the two are combined. Happy reading!
@AnimeMom (516)
• United States
11 Apr 08
Well I firmly believe that god does exist, and I also believe in the big bang theory. Namely because they have discovered heat left over from the explosion in space. If you have faith and are in the scientific field I feel that this would be the way to go. Hence the bumper stickers saying "god said bang and it happened" It seems to be a safe medium if you ask me. And I dont see why the two can't coexist.
• United States
11 Apr 08
They can't coexist because strict evolutionists and anti-religionist will always strive to satisfy their own desires, instead of pursuing truth. They throw out any evidence that proves them wrong and dismiss is it as religion. When in essence they are only supporting their own religion.
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@AnimeMom (516)
• United States
12 Apr 08
Ah, well you cant prove that god doesn't exist either. So I believe we are at an impass on that topic. Scientist may not believe in the powers that be, but not being able to disprove them should be very frustrating. So eventualy they will come together. Because god did create this world.
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@barehugs (8984)
• Canada
10 Apr 08
I am spiritual (not religious) and I believe in God. I quit religion and became Spiritual because Religion was incompatable with Science. The Bible is a book of Myths, which explains why it is Unscientific. God is Love, love is Energy, Energy is God. This to me is Scientific Fact.
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• United States
11 Apr 08
I AGREE! God basically condemed religion and religious leaders. I am an ordained minister. I am not religious! Non-denominational christian. I believe in God completely, and evolution to an extent. God has given mankind the intelligence to be scientific. If the scientists would only use that intelligence to glorify Him they would find more cures and our lives would be of a higher quality.
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@itsmepinky (1301)
• India
11 Apr 08
very very interesting topic and very debatable too . I am a very spiritual person , not very religious minded , but i do believe somewhere there is something called as god. For me my biggest god is my own conscience. I would suggest you to read this novel angels and demons by dan brown. He has explained the relation between god and science beautifully. Its a must read if you really want to find a answer to this. One of the lines in the novel "Science and religion are not at odds. Science is just too young to understand." Its simply superb. I am sure you will be blown away. ~pinks~
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• United States
22 Apr 08
According to the Baha'i Faith (which I am a member of) religion and science are two sides of the same coin and truth can only be found if one looks at both sides of the coin.
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@lifbrue (108)
• United States
21 Apr 08
In essence, they are both after truth. So, if both are seeking truth there should be no problem. The problem is when folks leave objective truth behind and start bringing in their own biases and emotional ideas -- that's when things get off track and science and religion may seem in conflict. It all comes back to TRUTH.
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@Mythion (188)
• Israel
21 Apr 08
They both answer the same questions, they both take different aproach to finding those answers. Science and religion will always be at odds, they contradict each other at their very base - Science will look for facts, the simplest of answeres, basing each answer on proven facts and bringing a new idea - that's how the answers are found. Religion brings answer without proof - "blind faith" like it was said.
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• Philippines
18 Apr 08
Friends; The One Whom the Bible are telling us is the God of Wisdom/Science. He is Above all wisdom. He is the Perfect mathematician,engineer, chemist,physicist name it all..... because all wisdom came from Him. Why do people contradict God to Science if God Himself is Science or Wisdom. Isaiah 55:8-9 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than you thoughts." ---many conceptualize that science and its branches are really stablished by facts experimented and studied by scientist. But on my view.... scientist only copies and studies the FACTS/WISDOM which already have been stablished long before we exist. Scientist observed the things around us, both seen and cannot be seen by our eyes. Study them and afterward walahhh a new discover, new formulas, algorithms etc. but frankly scientist just acquired knowledge from things theyve observed, but they leftbehind the fact that SOMEONE created all those things theyve been observing and studying. True science/wisdom that came from God is perfect. It doesnt change through times. I you observe carefully many scientist have their own theory...evolution, big bang, the earth was flat and not round/circle........ where all these wisdom of then came......? 1 Corinthians 1:19-20,25 "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?....Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger then men,.....That no flesh should glory in his presence." Science only contradicts religion/God when humans try to impute his own ideas/thinking. There facts that already written in the bible long before the so called science of man discovered. Before we discover that the earth is round, God already declared it: Isaiah 40:22 "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth.." before we discover the gravity and solar system, it is already written: Job 26:7 "He strecheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing." It is very clear that God is The God of Science/Wisdom because He Himself is the Wisdom, whom all of us cannot deny. All we have to do is to accept the Truth that: There is someone higher than us, far more knowledgeable than us, that we have to submit our whole being to Him and even our mind/thinking Lamentations 3:35 "To turn aside the right of a man before the face of the most High" I recently found this site, and I got a lot of good things from it. go check it out www.esoriano.wordpress.com www.truthcaster.com God Bless to all us Thank You for your patient. Pardon me for my poor english, it is not my native tounge
@angelface23 (2497)
• United States
11 Apr 08
I dont think there will ever be a happy medium between the two. Religion will always blast science if something they say isn't in the Bible. I believe in evolution but I also believe in some of the science stuff they say too. I dont really know if I believe the Big Bang Theory. I don't think everything was written in the Bible. I think they are endless scientific possibilities.
@MntlWard (880)
• United States
11 Apr 08
A lot of people who believe in evolution are religious. Some Christians do have the ability to look at the book of Genesis and see it as a parable, rather than a historical account. Moses has been credited with writing the book of Genesis. Would he have been able to understand DNA and mutation? I suppose if there is a god, that he could have just inserted all that information into Moses' brain, but if there is a god, it's apparent that he wanted to see what humanity would be able to do on our own. Giving Moses such a complete understanding of genetics would have altered human history to some extent. Or maybe Moses just didn't feel like writing all that stuff down.
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• India
11 Apr 08
KARL MARX said "religion is the impotence of the human mind to deal with occurrences it cannot understand" by saying that he didn't mean there is no GOD ...... It is absoloutely impossible to transcend the laws of nature.what can change in historically different circumstances is only the form in which these laws expose themselves. so i wudn't say that GOD does not exist! but going to religious places surely does not make him happy and shower his blessing on you! on the other hand science tries to establish logic in everything.if u havn't noticed ... modern science is moving towards spiritualism ... "natural science will in time incorporate into itself the science of man, just as the science of man will incorporate into itself the natural science:THERE WILL BE ONE SCIENCE!"