Hey Obama: DEBUNK THIS !

Actually, I've read the article at the link you provided. It does not say Obama was raised a Christian. It says, "Obama is a Christian.". There is no mention in the linked article as to Obama's childhood faith. There is no dispute among anyone who has checked the facts that Obama is a Christian. The dispute here is that Obama claims he was never a Muslim. There is more credible evidence Obama once was a Muslim than there is that he was not.

It seems like some politicians say whatever sounds best to them at THE time and don't realize how stupid they actually come off to people who take the time to dig into the past. You can't judge a book by the cover!! That's the bottom line!

A total lapse of memory..haha.

Check this out from only 4 years ago... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6333496

jerzgirl, You have fallen for an old trick liars use frequently. Please, go back to the link you provided and read it carefully. In it you will see that in 2004 Malik said,"Obama is a Christian". In your linked article nothing whatsoever is mentioned concerning what faith Obama was raised as. The point of contention here is that Obama has said he was never a Muslim. This is obviously false. Malik's comments are only additional information to that effect. Everyone who has checked the facts knows "Obama is a Christian". The problem is Obama says he was never a Muslim.

kareng, Yes, it does seem Hillary and Obama are much the same when it comes to dealing with the truth.

Yes, we are in agreement. Obama is just another politican, nothing special.

Simply put, Obama is a typical politician adapting whatever position he estimates will garner the most votes. My guess is that Obama thinks most Americans would not vote for someone from a Muslim background for President, so he tried to lie about it. A pretty stupid lie, really.

sound like what you are really saying here is Obama is "more of the same",especially when you say he is the typical polition right?that was my point all along!yet he keeps saying everybody else more of the same!

I certainly can't argue with your logic. When you are right, you are right.

Yes, Obama's religion is not as important as if he is lying about it.

If the Muslims of the world didn't hate the USA so much, and if Obama had been forthright about his birthplace and upbringing, it wouldn't matter, but he has tried to hide it all, and so now it matters.

Malik met Obama in 1985 when Obama was 24. I am quite sure they had numerous conversations concerning each others upbringing and life in general. Wouldn't you discuss your life with a long lost relative? Especially a sibling? As to your points concerning this being a secular nation, yes it is. Thank God for it, too! This is part of what helps us to avoid the religious strife elsewhere in the world. It is true, too, the current administration has tried to inject theology into government when it should not. Just as I do not want sharia law, I don't want a biblical based theocracy either. Either would be very bad.

You make good points that have to be taken seriously. Especially the one about Malik possibly trying to cash in. His statement that Obama was raised a Muslim certainly would gain him more attention than the other possibilty.

Well having met my natural / biological siblings at about the same age as Obama met his I can say with some degree of authority that what we talked about was not religion. I can also say with some authority that they would not be able to make the statement with any degree of credibility about me that Malik has made about his half brother. They simply would not have that information. They were not my half siblings by the way they were my full siblings, I was born first and given up for adoptions while they were born after my parents married, there were 5 of them. I had a relationship with them for nearly 10 years and then disenchanted with their bad behavior, lack of moral standards or compass finally cut off contact when my biological father passed. So I think I have a bit of insight into this issue on a very personal level. I spent a great deal more time with my natural siblings than he ever spent with his. In fact they were in my life on a regular basis. In and out of my home in some cases on a weekly basis. Ultimately they did know my stand on politics, religion, faith, family, morality, ethics, and many other things. What they didn't know a great deal about was my upbringing / history or what got me to the point I was at the time we met. You might be surprised at how families interact when they meet for the first time under these circumstances. I believe strongly that Malik is simply trying to cash in. I always look for what a person has to gain. I think it is important.

Yes, I'm sorry, I should have read some of your comments, which make your position clearer. Obama has every right to say that he has never been a Muslim. He clearly means that he has never espoused the Muslim faith. It is, of course, Muslim belief that one who is born of Muslim parents is a Muslim, just as some Christians believe that if you are baptised at a few days old, you automatically become a Christian. It seems to me that this may be where some misunderstandings have arisen.

Apology accepted. Yes, the confusion concerning the Muslim perception of Obama's faith and the western perception, is where the problem comes from. What people like myself are wondering is why didn't Obama address this? People are smart enough to understand the difference. Obama gave us an answer such as you would to someone that you thought was stupid. Obama gave us a simple one sided answer to a complex question. When I ask myself why, I don't like the answer.

owlwings, I went to the link you provided. I hope you will go back and look at it, too. Here's a quote from it. "Barack Obama is a radical Muslim who will not recite the Pledge of Allegiance." Snopes correctly identifies this quote as being false. Obama is not any kind of Muslim, much less radical. Obama does say the Pledge in the Senate and has done so publically. Do you not understand this snopes entry does not contradict anything I've said here? Please, read my orginal post. It begins with stating that everyone who has checked the facts knows Obama IS NOT A MUSLIM. The problem is that Obama claims he was never a Muslim even though his father was a Muslim and under Muslim law everyone born of a Muslim father is a Muslim. While it is true Obama is not a Muslim, whether or not he ever was one, is not a simple question.

Good points all. I was not aware you blokes down under had to put up with election news of the USA. Jeesh... on the behalf of my fellow Americans, I apoligize to you.

Ha ha ha ha, G'day Red, it is crazy, but I guess it shows a serious lack of local content on the service providers behalf, no news this side of the planet, what are they doing over there? No, probably not true, just the fact that it is there and is happening is all it takes. I feel sorry for all you folks in the middle of it all for soooooo long. What a strange system I do think. One big difference is also this which may have a big influence on the way it's done here and there. Your vote is voluntary. Ours is compulsory. If you don't vote, they confiscate your pocket money for 2 weeks.

The point that Obama being partially raised as a Muslim would give Obama valuable insight into some our country's enemies is a very good one. This has often caused me to wonder why Obama has not been forthright concerning his earlier exposure to Islam. Why has Obama not made this point himself, instead of lying about his Muslim past? Makes no since to me. Yes, my star is now a 2. What I think happened is that someone with myLot admin authority on the web site has in the past been altering or otherwise artificially holding my star down. I suspect that person has been either removed, quit, or been reprimanded. My own understanding of web sites and computer programming leads me to believe ordinary myLot users could not possibly cause my star to behave in the manner it did. I won't say what mistake the individual made that allowed me to deduce my fellow myLotters were not responsible for my star rating as I don't want to give anyone knowledge to do a better job next time if attacks on my star start back up.

(By the way RYBD..... I have noticed your star rating has moved up from a 1 to a 2? You are not starting to soften are you? lol)

I definitely agree that IF he has a Muslim past then Obama should be upfront about it. If this IS proven in the future then he will not fare well for being elusive about it. Regardless of whether he was or wasn't; his family have Muslim members and his Father too was of this faith. Why be so defensive about the idea itself? Doesn't make sense to me either.

The biggest mystery about Obama to me is how in the world did someone like him come so far? What is wrong with our method of selecting leaders?

Great link there Destiny. I'd have to say they've nailed that doofus, Obama's, hide to the barn door. He's as big of a liar as Hillary.

Hey, we are talking about democrats. You know... those people with no principles and absolutely no standards. How could someone like Obama not come this far? He looks black, he's liberal, and he hates everything America ever stood for... in short he is just perfect for the liberals. To top it all off, he has a Muslim and communist background and associations. What more could an enemy hope for in a possible president? Here's a brief link about his non-Muslim past... http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66981

Wise words that apply here. Thank you.

they come from a wise place the bible!

Very wise words! And how long does it take you to train a child? Three months or three years? Obama stayed with his Christian grandparents all his young life but the few months he saw his father were enough to prove how he was trained? Very wise words indeed!

I sure don't see how this could be an honest mistake by Obama. You know, he is an Ivy League school graduate, a member of the bar, and supposed to be among the very brightest people in America.

You're worried about Barack having amnesia, what about McCain getting dimentia - that's the pot calling the kettle black - excuse the pun.

i especially like the site you gave me on utube with all of obama's famous blunders.that was funny for a orator

Well, put! Whether he once was a Muslim or not is unimportant, but if he is lying about it, that is important.

enterprise, Please, read what I wrote, not what you think I meant. I said, "IF" Obama is lying. I am giving Obama every chance I can.

Most black people in the USA were not Muslims in the beginings. Black people in the USA do have their rights to the point one is about to be elected president. I am not prejudiced about black people. Of course, members of any religion can be elected President. These things are obvious and well known. I have no idea how you became so mislead. What I'm concerned about here is a candidate for President and whether or not he is a liar, not his race and not his religion. Thank you for your response.