Christian voting for Obama
By gewcew23
@gewcew23 (8007)
United States
June 22, 2008 4:49pm CST
Christians in America are still the largest group in America. Bigger than the white male, the soccer moms, the African-Americans, the Latinos, or anyother group you want to put out their. The big problem with Christian in America is that unlike all of the other groups they do not vote in a block. I am troubled by the idea that a Christian would vote for Obama. My reason for Christians not voting for Obama has nothing to do with him being or not being a Muslim it has everything to do with his social positions.
What few voting record he does have, his voting record flies in the face of the Bible.
Abortion being available to mommy in all nine months of her pregnancy.
Parents not being notified when their 13 year-old girl goes in for an abortion.
The continued taxpayer funding of Planned Parenthood abortion clinics.
The advancement of all “hate crimes” legislation, which ultimately could be used to silence pastors who preach that homosexual behavior is wrong.
Being against the Defense of Marriage act(DOMA)
What am I not understanding?
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12 responses
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
22 Jun 08
For many there are more pressing issues in this election than those that you mentioned in your post. This is what you are not understanding. Our economy is in trouble, there is the war in Iraq, unrest in the Middle East, our energy needs must be addressed. I'm not saying that the points you made are not important ones, I'm saying that for many, there are more important things to consider when deciding who to vote for.
@ElaanR2 (277)
• United States
23 Jun 08
Having the position that a Christian should not vote for Obama is not only judging a fellow Christian(as the Bible says we shouldn't do in the gospel according to Luke), but also a way of hiding behind religion to throw dust in the eyes of the people. Christian leaders in this country had a two hour chat with Obama and concluded that he is not the devil. The evangelical christian who wrote 'The Faith of George Bush' has also written a book like that about Obama. Furthermore, the reason why McCain has a problem with conservatives is because his voting record is similar to the one mentioned above. The reason why someone would not want Obama to be the next president has nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with whether you personally agree with his message or not. As Christ himself said when the pharisees asked him about paying taxes, 'give unto Caesar what is Caesar's and give unto God what is God's.' God will never punish anybody for the way he or she votes. However, he will punish anybody who judges his fellow man or misleads others. For, the word of God explicitly states that temptation will come but woe unto him through whom it comes. Thus, if you're tempting people into being judgmental, beware...
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
24 Jun 08
But everyone has to make a judgement when they enter the voting booth. If you
judge either candidate unworthy of your vote for moral reasons, aren't you judging
them? Then should we base our vote solely on economic reasons, foreign relations,
domestic funding, etc,? Or maybe God would have us not to vote at all, lest we judge
someone. I don't believe any of the above. In my opinion moral character is just as
important, if not moreso, than any of the other issues we consider in an election.
@ElaanR2 (277)
• United States
27 Jun 08
When you vote, you make a choice. It's neither judging nor condemning. It is when you declare that someone is unfit, based on religion, that you are judging. What you believe can lead you to make a choice. That is certainly fair. It doesn't make you a better person than the one you don't vote for and that is certainly not what your vote means either.
@Barb42 (4214)
• United States
27 Jun 08
God gave me a brain and he didn't ask me to check it at the door when I voted.:) I believe He wants us to be as vigilant in our choice of a president as He does in our walk with Him. We have to make a choice and we need to make the choice that comes closest to what we believe and hopefully, we believe the things that the Word teaches.
I have heard so much in these campaigns that makes me wish we had another candidate to vote for, but we are left with two choices. And,being a Christian,I can't check that at the door when I go in to mark my ballot. I know God is against abortion, homosexuality (not the person), and many of the other things this candidate things is moral. I differ with his beliefs; therefore, I could never vote for him with a clear conscious.
If we don't check out what the candidates believe in and make our choice that way, then we might as well be blindfolded and let the pen drop wherever it will. And,I'm sure that is how lots of people are going to be voting come November. I listen to the radio stations that will ask questions of perspective voters and they are 'just voting',and will say they don't know why they are voting for Obama,but they are Democrats and he is, so they are voting for him. Not a healthy way to make the choice for the highest held office in our Land!
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
23 Jun 08
I really don't think most Christians will be voting for Obama. Just the partial birth abortion issue and Obama's support of it is enough to lose the votes of most Christians and almost all other decent folks whether they are Christian or not. I'll even bet most Muslims don't support partial birth abortions.
Wow...LIGHT BULB... going off! Hmmm... I wonder if there are any groups that would not support partial birth abortion for their group, but would for others?
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
23 Jun 08
Hmmm.. Is that what he is going to do? Oh my that's terrible. I don't want him to be in position if that's his policy. I don't think that's right.
@Margajoe (4709)
• Germany
23 Jun 08
Hi!
You are not understanding that this has nothing to do
with being a Christian.
First of all, I don't like people to have an abortion.
On the other hand, God gave us the utilities to get one.
If you have a child of 13 or 17, and she gets pregnant from
a stranger who raped her. Would you make her keep it?
If you see you daughters life is being threatened by a sickness or something, do you not get medical help?
God gave us the freedom to choose for ourselves.
Choose for yourself and don't worry about what others are
doing.
Make sure, you yourself do what you think is right.
God Bless,
Margajoe.
@Margajoe (4709)
• Germany
25 Jun 08
Hi!
No abortion is not an answer to birth control.
I understand you saying , since when is a baby a punishment?
I feel like I was.
I was adopted and have never really found my place in life.
My birth mother was 16.
Lots of times I have wished she would have aborted me.
(That feeling never goes away for long)
She has been punished for her deed.
I on other hand feel like I have been punished for being born.
On the other hand, do you really belief you have something to say about who gets elected?
Bush did not get chosen by the people.
He had inside friends.
Something went terribly wrong on the first election.
After seeing that I new for sure.
The normal people, the working people, have nothing really to say.(where ever in the world you are.)
I hope I am wrong, but I don't think so.
Take care,
Margajoe
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
24 Jun 08
You make a good pint, Margajoe. But...we should never vote for candidates that don't line up with our own beliefs or values. It's been pointed out, for instance, that Obama said if his young teen girl got pregnant, he wouldn't "punish her" by making her have the baby. That really bothered many people. Since when are babies "punishment"?
If a teen gets pregnant, should she use abortion as birth control? And should we want a candidate who thinks using abortion as birth control is okay?
Those are questions we all have to ask ourselves.
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@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
22 Jun 08
There are christians that will vote for Obama. Remember the U.S.A. does not made up of only christians but a wide variety. There are christians (Pastor's and their wives) who let their daughters or their son's girlfriend do abortion. It is not thensin that you have done but how you repent of it. You see no one is prefect and does makes mistakes. The churches are not doing the things that are proper and right. It is not that I am licking out against them but there are members who are not living the right and proper life. So if they come now and talk against Obama it will then seem as if the Pot calling the Kettle black.
So I would advice churches and christians to shine their light and clean up their acts before start attacking.
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@ElaanR2 (277)
• United States
23 Jun 08
You are right to some extent. Sin comes in many forms and patterns. We are saved by grace not by our works. That is why Christ enjoins us to not judge others. When the pharisees and the scribes brought an adulterous woman to Christ, expecting him to condemn her, he said,'may the one among you who has never committed sin in his entire life throw the first stone...' I say here too that any Christian who has never sinned in his or her entire lifetime should cast the first stone against Barack Obama for refusing to judge other people. He would not do these things but he wants God to be the one who judges the people who do them, not himself.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
23 Jun 08
There is no way a real Christian would vote for Obama or anyone else who supports the things he and the liberals stand for.
Abortion, homosexuality, and the rest of the anti family legislation that has been going on.
These are not issues that true Christians would be backing, and true Christians would not be voting for anyone who does.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
23 Jun 08
As a Christian I would vote to someone who stands for the ideals of the Bible and for what is preached in our church. It does not matter if a Christian fails or comes short, like in a moment of weakness, has an abortion, that she is forced to vote for a candidate who believes in abortion. A Christian should vote for someone who fears God, is for traditional marriage, and does not support a group that will use hate crime legislation to silence the word of God preached from the pulpit.
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@ubuntujason (196)
• United States
24 Jun 08
hiya~
first off, i am a Christian, in fact i'm an ordained minister....and i am proudly voting for sen. barack obama!
i think that abortion is wrong, yes i think its killing an unborn child....but i also know, that no where am i told that i have the right to oppress those who disagree....and that sin (in my view yes it is a sin) it is between the sinner and God....it is my job to say that yes i believe it is wrong, and explain why....and forgive the sinner...to love the sinner and not the sin
i fear some 'right wing fundemintalist' who would want to leglislate God form the halls of congress....look at history....when has it ever worked to force religious beliefs on anyone....the answer is never!
where are we commanded or taught to do that....answer: nowhere....
now don't get me wrong, i'm not sayin yeah lets have a free for all....i'm not sayin disregard the fact we are a Christian nation....i'm saying....we're to let men (and women) be free....and we're to show the Love of God to those who are hurting for it....we're not to condemn or force others to believe as we do....we're to teach and [ray they come around!
personally i think sen. obama has a better grip on that then the other people i could vote for....for that reason, i again say, i'm proudly voting obama for '08!
~j
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
23 Jun 08
Hopefully, Christians will wake up before November and realize what is important. Sure the economy is bad, but God provides. If I weep knowing that people approve of partial birth abortions and of silencing pastors, how much more does God weep?
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@zhuuraan (961)
• United States
23 Jun 08
I don't know but I am not christian and I wouldn't vote Obama. His views are just too warped and radical. I personally think this country could do with a female president for once, just for a different perspective, but Clinton isn't the one either. To be honest though, I won't vote for any of the current candidates as I am not particularly thrilled with any of them. I will only vote when and if I ever find a candidate that really impresses me, and even then it could be so phony. Politicians would promise the world if they thought it'd get them the presidency then they'd get in and be buried in promises they can't deliver on.
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