My Girlfriend Messed Up Big- Time

@irishmist (3814)
United States
June 22, 2008 10:07pm CST
My friend Donna applied for a really good job, but she lied on her application, she said she had a High School Diploma, and she does not have one, she has gotten by many years without having to show one, now she needs to produce one now. I feel really bad for her, but we all know how it looks if we don't have one. She had a lot on her plate when she was younger, she had to quit school, and so much went on in the years after that, she really did mean to get her GED, but it never happened. Donna has had many good jobs in her life. She is really smart and learns quickly. She works really well with others, and is a really good worker. But now she can't take the job. Do you think she is wrong for what she has done? Has anyone else ever lied about not having their Diploma, and if anything what did happen? How does everyone feel about this? I myself am 49 and I feel you have lived the life in the job feild, and proved yourself. I also think if we don't use it we lose it, so what is the point of having a Diploma, unless you are planning on being a proffesional in a certain feild or there of. Thoughts Please. What would you do if it was really good pay and benefits?, and if you got found out, what would you say?
6 responses
• United States
24 Jun 08
The point is not that she is going to use the education or not, or that she is smart or not. The point is she lied. At the hospital where I use to work if they find out that you lied on your employment application that is an automatic friable affence. I know a lot of very smart people who have had long careers without their diplomas but they did not lie about it. Maybe she should go to the boss and tell the truth and see if the can work something out. Good luck to your friend.
• United States
24 Jun 08
I hope she does not lose her current job when her boss finds out she lied. I do feel sorry for her, she is in a catch 22, she is darned if she tells the truth and darned if she lies. Good luck to her.
• United States
23 Jun 08
I feel really bad for your friend Donna. It is always best to tell the truth and hope that her resume and work history will speak for it's self. I do think in a way that basing a persons ability to do a job solely on a high school diploma don't always get you the best worker. Therefore I think had she told the truth They might have over looked that part of it. Once you lie you can not take that part back because they know you already lied once and that looks worse than no diploma. They might have even worked with her and said hey you know what if we hire you one of the terms of employment is you getting your diploma or could have hired her totally without one. I know sometimes it is hard especially with today’s economy like it is to get a job. If she got in to the interview part of it she could have came clean before they asked explained why she lied and then offered to pursue one after she was hired on. I agree if we don't use it we lose it but a lot of employers are looking at the fact that you quit school and could not be dedicated enough to finish school. I understand that things happen and it isn't always easy or circumstances prevent someone from finishing school just trying to help you understand part of the reason they look at the diploma. I am so glad that when I quit school that is the one thing my mom made me do. She told me I had better get my GED right then or I never would. She pretty much forced me to do it but she was right and I never would have had it not been for doing it right then. At the time I did it, it was not a must have for jobs but seeing this makes me realize that it is important now. Thanks for sharing and I hope that things work out for your friend. If she hasn't been interviewed yet she may still have a shot when she is interviewed by coming clean and offering to get the diploma.
@irishmist (3814)
• United States
24 Jun 08
She knew it was wrong, but she really wanted the job, and nobody had ever asked before to see her Diploma. But today it is really hard to get a good paying job. Plus she has to support herself. I feel really bad for her, and I understand why she did it, I myself have to support myself since my husband passed away some years ago and it is hard. I'm not saying it was right, but I do understand. I don't know if the company would have worked with her or overlooked it as it was a job working with handicapped people.
• United States
24 Jun 08
I agree with today it is hard to get a good paying job. Right now it is really hard to even get any job. I didn't realize how hard it was until I started applying for jobs here. I have been a housewife for the last 6 years. I decided I was ready to go to work since all my children are in school. I have no recent job history so no one wants to hire me. Last time I went out into the job market getting a job was easy. I have a great job history from long ago but no one cares when they have hundred of people to chose from and most of them have current references. I am sorry to hear that you lost a husband, that is so hard on a person. I think that with a job like working with handicapped or the elderly they should look more at the persons mentality and ability to handle the job. It takes a special person to do those jobs and do them right. A piece of paper don't change a persons heart and that is what it takes to do those types of jobs. I hope that everything works out for her.
@AshleyHasan (1024)
• India
23 Jun 08
First of all if I would have been in her place , I would not have applied for that job because I dont have the required diploma, she has to choose the job which she is qualified for, it is better to start from the scratch only with small companies you can grow big, never know the place where she gets selected she can grow there itself by working hard , but according to me what she did was wrong , if she is really interested for that post let her work hard for small company ask her to finish the studies by side ways and Iam sure one day she will become great in life... especially in studies it is very danger if you show something like this or if you tell people about this with out having the degrees that some times might spoil your life as well .
@irishmist (3814)
• United States
24 Jun 08
The job was working with handicapped people, and she is a very smart person, and has had good jobs before. She has driven school bus, been a security guard, and a few others. I feel she would have done a really good job. She is really good with people.
@syeryn (573)
• United States
23 Jun 08
Ouch, your friend has put herself in a difficult position. Lying on the application is not a good idea. Your credibility and integrity are shot to h*ll when you do this and companies know they cannot trust you to be honest so any hopes for getting your foot in the door and working your way are are gone because of not being forth coming about it. I wish her well
@irishmist (3814)
• United States
28 Jun 08
Yes she really regrets what she did, she was desperate to find a job. And every place wants you to have a diploma or GED.
@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
24 Jun 08
I'm sorry to hear about what she did. She was desperate maybe. Hopefully there will be another opportunity for her. I have never lied about my diploma. Those you are applying for will do a background check on you and if found out, you might get blacklisted in some companies.
@irishmist (3814)
• United States
28 Jun 08
Yes she was desperate, as she has kids and nobody to help her.
@jag003 (127)
• Philippines
23 Jun 08
Awww, that's too bad I hope you guys are ok...
@irishmist (3814)
• United States
28 Jun 08
She finally got a job, but it does not pay that well, and no benefits.