Have You Heard? Vissarion Herald As The New Christ

@pyewacket (44031)
United States
June 26, 2008 8:10pm CST
I saw this on the news late last night of a person who now goes under the name of Vissarion and who some proclaim as the new messiah, or Christ. His real name is Sergei Torop, and was once a traffic cop...Here's a bit more of him from an article I found about him and his followers. http://www.lermanet.com/cisar/russia/030414.htm (Quote) [i] ..."Sergei Torop was an alert traffic policeman. That is, until the day in May 1990 when it suddenly became clear to him that he was the son of God. Since then he's attracted thousands of believers to the harsh living conditions of the Russian taiga. Vissarion's disciples include Germans, too. Sect critics are apprehensive about mass suicide. The heart of the Earth can be found in Siberia, and in the Taiga lies salvation. Because here is where the "Master of Live" lives. Each one of his words and each of his glances is permeated with love and the light of truth. Here, so he says, is the Earth still undisturbed from emotional chaos that flickers of the planet like a gray haze. If in the near future the Earth were to be struck by a large comet which lays waste to most of its surface, if the atomic warheads start to spontaneously explose in the deserts of Nevada, or if a new virus were to devastate the unbelievers of mankind, then the disciples of the Master will be rewarded for their years of efforts and sacrifice. This community in the forests of Russia can best withstand great upheavals, because it has a deep understanding of cosmic connections. With his long brown hair, he strides from the blue waters of the Tiberkul over the hill by the lake wearing a velvet purple robe. He smiles. "Putting it simply: Yes. I am Jesus Christ." As the 42-year-old son of God, Sergei Torop is building the man of the future, the "sixth race."About 5,000 people, according to the sect's information, have flocked to Vissarion, as Torop calls himself. They live in 40 small villages in an area half as big as Switzerland nearly 4,000 kilometers east of Moscow, south of Krasnoyarsk. Most of the religious seekers of happiness are Russian. They include many intellectuals, musicians, actors and former officers of the Red Army. Most of them had found themselves in a vacuum devoid of meaning after the collapse of the Soviet Union. They made their way out of the chaos of the cities and prescribed for themselves the new love-communism in the Taiga. But since then Vissarion also has found adherents in Bulgaria, Belgium, Italy, Australia, the USA and Germany.... The daily routine in the harsh living conditions of the Taiga, in houses without electricity and with running water, is rather dreary, especially for Westerners. In winters it frequently reaches 40 below and the summers are unbearably hot. Because of the heat people can hardly heave their shacks; they protects themselves from the millions of biting insects with gloves. In this insect hell they farm vegetables and live mainly from buckwheat. Meat and milk products are taboo. Wash basins stand at the ready in the huts of the sect Paradise for bodily care; their daily needs are served by bio-toilets. On the edge of the settlements are large dumps filled with man-made trash."There are no fat people" in the realm of the Siberian Christ, Tanner finds out. This is a consequence of Vissarion's "nutrition recommendations." But the hard life in the Taiga doesn't toughen everybody by far. Relatives of a sect member reported in the "Berliner Dialog" of emaciated, undernourished people who he met on Tiberkul Lake, of meningitis and of people sick with tuberculosis. Many children were said to be suffering from rickets. [/i] Here's another article about him from the ABC News website which is the channel I heard about this http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/FaithMatters/Story?id=5225539&page=4 Here's a video story of it all http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/FaithMatters/story?id=5225539&page=1 And hang on folks....he even has his own website! http://vissarion.eu/en/ According to all the articles and videos I've come across, he has over 5,000 followers that have flocked to him, living in near poverty conditions, never seek medical aid or help. Uh...the skeptic in me is skeptical on this...is this a weird cult...AGAIN? To my mind, if he truly was the new messiah, would he allow people to become sickly...wouldn't he be healing them as the original Christ did? Would the new messiah ask people to live in poverty conditions, when the teachings of Christ was to live life, and live it more abundantly in all aspects. The original Christ was a humble spiritual avatar...he didn't expect for people to bow down at certain times of the day, stop whatever they were doing and turn their attention to the mountaintop where this Vessarion lives to worship him.. I mean doesn't this all sound so contradictory to the teachings of Christ? Okay...what's your take on all this? I mean yes, maybe this Vessarion MAY be a spiritual person, but do you think he can be the "Christ"? Or do you think this guy is all bunk. Do you think this is just one more weird cult..do you think as the article suggests that the people might do a suicide thing like they did in Waco, Texas with that David Kuresh?
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10 responses
• United States
27 Jun 08
Bunk and more bunk. First it says that Christ will appear in the sky so that all may see their sins. Second, while it is true that the weather lately is a quite strong indication that it could be the coming, the only way to know for sure is if the sun and moon do their things and if people just disappear. I do not believe for one moment that this self proclaimed Messiah is real.
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@pyewacket (44031)
• United States
27 Jun 08
My take on the weird weather conditions is more a scientific one...we're kind of due for a shifting of the magnetic poles, which occurs every so often...usually about 10,000 years so don't think it has to do with any "coming" of a messiah...
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• United States
3 Jul 08
Well one never knows. I am reading a book called Words From Jesus, and it refers to shaking the earth. All the earthquakes China has been having lately has me suspicious. That and the myth about 12/12 and the world ending simply because of a Mayan calendar. I heard that resets every 20,000 years, so at the moment I am taking a wait and see attitude. I have also heard predictions for 3010, but that is quite some time from now.
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@pyewacket (44031)
• United States
3 Jul 08
Well time will tell if we are going to experience the "end"---but then we've been hearing about the end of the world since time immortal
27 Jun 08
Hello Pyewacket I don@t beleive that at all he is just that waco person and I woder why those peple choose to beleive him are they on something? I think he is makeing money on those peple somehow mind boggles?
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@pyewacket (44031)
• United States
27 Jun 08
why do any people follow anyone who claims they are divinely guided? Usually people who really ARE spiritual and divinely guided are the most humble and don't make a racket about their presence--one person that comes to mind, and who was a dear sweet person was Mother Teresa... Just seems to me an awful lot of this is tied to some kind of mind control thing with those people...
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27 Jun 08
Yes Mothe theres wa s lovely kind women wish there were more pople like her. Tamarafireheart
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@Lakota12 (42681)
• United States
29 Jun 08
I would hope not but then ya never know this feller just might have another JOnes town
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@pyewacket (44031)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Or what happened with the followers of David Kuresh in Texas...
@Lakota12 (42681)
• United States
30 Jun 08
p aboutthe same thing there too as Jones Town both awful
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@littleowl (7157)
27 Jun 08
Hi pye-not another one I think its just anotheer cult or something but definitley don't thenk he's christ there must be so many people around at the moment who think they are-but you as well as \i know that is contradictory anyway-just as the bible is-bb littleowl
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@pyewacket (44031)
• United States
27 Jun 08
I used to go to a therapist and he told me he had a patient there that thought he was God. Maybe this person should be psychiatrically evaluated, no?
@littleowl (7157)
27 Jun 08
Hi Pye I very much agree with that thought it just annoys me too that someone can even think that way who is God anywway? bb littleowl
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@susieq223 (3742)
• United States
3 Jul 08
Yep, another "cult" or bunch of misquided people. Of course, if I lived in that area, I might be desperate enough to believe in him, too...
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@pyewacket (44031)
• United States
3 Jul 08
Only problem is, is that he's getting worldwide attention and people all over the world are falling for this person as the new messiah
@winterose (39897)
• Canada
28 Jun 08
of course I do not believe he is Christ, the bible has a clear cut definition of the second coming of Christ, but it does talk about false prophets, imposters, and how we will have many of them and we have had many of them and will still have more.
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@pyewacket (44031)
• United States
28 Jun 08
Nope I don't believe he is the second Christ either and a true spiritual leader wouldn't let his followers live in such conditions
@Pose123 (21662)
• Canada
28 Jun 08
Hi pyewacket, I responded to a discussion earlier about the same story, but there wasn't as much detail as you've given here. What do you suppose makes people follow someone like that, is it that they are just desperate to believe something? I wonder why he would want people living in conditions like that, it is just the opposite of what Jesus Christ taught. I find it difficult to believe that it can be anything more than a power trip for him. Interesting story though, thanks for posting it. Blessings.
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@pyewacket (44031)
• United States
28 Jun 08
Yes unfortunately I think people are willing to follow someone especially during hard times and the person is making a lot of promises. You're right, I don't think a true Christ would want people living in such conditions, or allow people to get ill or sick..like if he were the real Christ, wouldn't he be healing them?
@Aussies2007 (5339)
• Australia
27 Jun 08
My first question would be... How do you live in Siberia without electricity... and have your own website? Second question... Does Jesus Christ need a website? Conclusion The man is another con artist... and he probably stashing a fortune away in a swiss bank accout. Don't be surprise... if you learn next... that his followers have sold all of their possessions and given him the money. As for the followers... only two words can describe them... "Mad people". Remember this... nobody is a victim... unless he/she wants to be a victim. Stupidity is not an excuse in the eyes of the law.
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@pyewacket (44031)
• United States
27 Jun 08
Does Jesus Christ need a website? I think the problem is, is that people are desperate to follow someone that seems to be a spiritual leader and it gives them hope especially now during our "rather" negative times we're living in
• United States
27 Jun 08
I am very cynical regarding any so called Messiahs. He could just be a very good spiritual person or is a nut case. I could not even begin to guess how many people have been regarded as the new "Messiah". I believe even Obama has been included in the numbers????
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@pyewacket (44031)
• United States
27 Jun 08
I actually did a search once and there have been a number of people that considered themselves as the new Messiah
@GardenGerty (115100)
• United States
27 Jun 08
I would lean more strongly toward the Anti Christ, but I would have to study up before I would say I think it fits. You are very exact in pointing out what the genuine Christ stood for, in contrast to the teachings of Vassarion. I am not sure where his revelation came from.
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@pyewacket (44031)
• United States
27 Jun 08
amusing how he garbs himself in long robes and "looks" Christ like too. For all we know the real Christ when he comes back might be attired in a business suit and look like a computer dweeb..hehe