I'm tired of this myLot guidelines

@neildc (17251)
Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
August 5, 2008 2:01am CST
That is true, I am already tired of these members, especially the newbies who seem to ignore the myLot discussion guidelines. We have a lot of new members just came in last month hoping to earn fast money, not thinking that they are in a community that runs with certain conditions, rules, and guidelines. myLot is just like the place we are in, governs with some rules of law, policies, and ordinances. So let us all follow what the guidelines say. Here are some violations spotted by concerned members: [i]* Posting similar or identical discussions (Stealing). * Posting links to promote other affiliate programs (Spamming). * Posting or asking for personal information (Privacy). * Posting inaccurate myLot algorithm (Misleading). [/i] And you can also add more here if you spotted some violations. Now newbies and not so newbies, please, please, please, read the guidelines now if you haven't read it yet. KEEP SMILING = NEIL (red star 91 @ 1450)
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@darksorrow (4667)
• Bangladesh
5 Aug 08
I think there is no way to stop people posting similar new discussions. Because no one is going to search whether a discussion has posted before & then start a new discussion. And if members do this then there will be a few discussion for them to start. And for spamming not only newbies i have also seen some old members who does the spamming. I hope the newbies notice this post & also those old members who needs to know the guidelines.
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@neildc (17251)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
5 Aug 08
ok darksorrow, but how can you explain, a discussion which seems to be carbon copied? is that a mistake, coincidence or intentional? (red star 91 @ 1451)
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• Bangladesh
5 Aug 08
If it is a carbon copy & it is started by a newbie then i can say that it is a coincidence. Because they don't have the privilege to copy & paste & i don't think that someone will type a whole discussion which is started by others. May be there is a chance for some people may exist here who can do these tings. If they really exist then i think they should copy those discussions which has lots of responses. It will earn them more since in my opinion they will do it for more money.
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@neildc (17251)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
5 Aug 08
i did say is "seems to be carbon copied" and not "it is a carbon copied". he tired to copy the whole topic by retyping but he had some typing errors too. if you can see those posts, you can tell which is which. (red star 91 @ 1452)
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@salonga (27825)
• Philippines
5 Aug 08
I have nothing to say coz you've said them all already. All I can say is that I agree with you one hundred percent. Thanks for that reminder. And as you said let's keep on smiling!
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@bookworms (351)
• Pasig, Philippines
5 Aug 08
woooooo thanks for reminding me ^_^ i violate once about spamming but i wont do it again ^_^
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@kaezy_kulet (2465)
• Philippines
5 Aug 08
I too becomes irritated with users who doesn't know how to follow the guidelines of the site that they have joined too..one time my post was deleted because of a stupid user who had posted a referral link and before i decide to report him my post had already been deleted and all of us were affected by it.
@sweety_81 (2125)
• India
5 Aug 08
Yeah;i too agree that following the guidelines is a must . If we don't follow them ; we are surely in for trouble .
@NrgDfenZ (1810)
• Belgium
5 Aug 08
Hi ^^ Well had a few violations myself, but other members pointed me at it, and now I try to keep an eye out for violations.. But euhm if I may ask: What do u exactly mean with this: Posting inaccurate myLot algorithm (Misleading) Thanks
@neildc (17251)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
5 Aug 08
there are lots of discussion that ask or assumes how we are being paid here or how we can earn more. and if you can read the guidelines, this will answer your question better: Post anything that inaccurately explains the myLot earnings algorithm. Our myLot mathematicians have worked long and hard on our elaborate payment system and we wouldn’t want any of our users to make them feel inadequate by breaking their algorithm in minutes. (red star 91 @ 1470)
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@kerriannc (4280)
• Jamaica
5 Aug 08
Neildc is that your new signature now. The ending with the star rating.
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@neildc (17251)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
7 Aug 08
hi kerriannc, yes, that is a sort of signature, and at the same time a reminder for me how active i am now on here. (red star 88 @ 1469)
@Hatley (164214)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Aug 08
neildc thats all well and good and I am all for all of us reading and following the guidelines, but we had a rash awhile back of some really mean people who seemed to have nothing else to do but examine every little speck of anthing that they thought was not legal then report anyone whom they did not like,and harrass a lot of old and very good'mylotters to the point that they just quit rather than be continually harrassed about all and everyone of'their discussions. dont these people have anything else to do? I suggest that instead of policing each other , we read all the rules as harrassing and picking on people day after day is also against the mylot rules. I try my best to follow all the rules my self and hope the rest of us do too.But I do not like to be policed as I police myself very well.
@Stiletto (4582)
6 Aug 08
I agree. I think there are far too many self-important people on here who like nothing better than to get others into trouble. I don't like to be policed either. If I see posts which break the guidelines I just ignore them. If people just didn't respond then people would stop posting those sorts of things. There is really no need for people to go on these ridiculous crusades against "rule-breakers" or against anyone else for that matter.
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@neildc (17251)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
7 Aug 08
yes hatley, if we all knew the guidelines, there will be no one just like me and my friends to keep complaining about these breakers. am really tired of following this one guy that we spotted of really posting not similar but identical discussion. not just once but twice, he did it. Stiletto, if your discussion is copied, word for word, will you just ignore it? or will you still leave a response? (red star 88 @ 1469)
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@KrauseHome (36731)
• United States
5 Aug 08
Well, it does say for you to be Creative in the discussions and such you start, and also when posting back to discussions to be original, and keep to the Topic, etc. when posting back, etc. The thing is unless someone is just starting the New discussion, there are a lot of people in here who start discussions on about the same topic, just because a lot of the New people coming in here do not bother to Read the TOS, and/or learn from other things posted on here before asking, or breaking one of the many rules. I think at one time or another almost all of us here who are a member of myLot have broken a Rule, and had a Discussion or two removed. It is only when they continue to break the rules without learning from them, that I think sparks a little bit of trouble in here. But if more members would read the TOS before deciding to post in here, it would serve us all as a better site to post on.
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@neildc (17251)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
5 Aug 08
hi KrauseHome. this is really my point here. I want everybody had a view of the TOS and the guidelines so that each one of us should learn and stop from asking, why is my topic deleted or why my posts had a deduction. i am not saying i am perfect, and just you mentioned, all of us commit mistakes when we were new. (red star 91 @ 1451)
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• India
5 Aug 08
HI neil ofcourse the experienced always hate the mistakes they have done in the past which are been repeating by the freshers in any field.Well i am not saying what actually you are saying is absolutely correct.But its hard to understand as a newbie to make it all in the same day they have joined.Slowly and steadily they will understand it.But as an experienced person like you with more than 1000 posts knows now many more things than many others.So you can guide them the way like the discussion you have started.I could see many posting their links or url's directly which is against the TOS.Now that many are thinking mylot is get quick rich and they are forming their own TOS.Its hard to understand at first but slowly they will understand.Cheers MOIN.
@neildc (17251)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
5 Aug 08
hi moin. that is exactly what i wanted them to know, that we have our own policies and guidelines here and not to carelessly doing just what they wanted which is against the rules. i want them to read and review the guidelines if they have not done yet. (red star 91 @ 1451)
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@ladym33 (10990)
• United States
5 Aug 08
Yes there are a lot of those things going on. I do think that copying discussions however might not be intentional though. I think a lot of discussions are things that pop in to people's heads and they decide to ask them, not realizing that someone has already asked that question. Some of these topics have many, many discussions, and I don't think most people are going to look back through all of th discussions before asking a question. There certainly is a lot of the affiliate program discussions though, and self promotion, I think people should be happy mylot allows those on their member pages.
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@checapricorn (16049)
• United States
5 Aug 08
HI neildc, I have observed that too and I have been approving friends' request from a lot of newbies and now I have to delete series of new post for one-liner as well as common post which are being posted several times already!
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
5 Aug 08
Personally, I think the guildline about not posting similar topics is...well, stupid. There are over 138,000 members here. And, as the Bible tells us, "There is nothing new under the sun." People read the same news stories. They hear the same news stories. They want to rush to their social networking and posting sites and share what they heard or saw. Sometimes, a quick search does not turn up anything similar. Then once you've hit post, up pop a few more. You know what I think? So what. Most people reply first to their friends, so it's highly likely that there will be different responses to these similar discussions. I think that particular guideline means that one person is not supposed to post similar discussions. I have seen newbies do that. They'll post 2 or 3 or more discussions about the same thing, merely changing a few words. That, I think, is wrong. And that, I think, is what the guidelines are really against. When someone starts a similar discussion, they are not stealing, unless they copy it word for word. Many of the guidelines are open for interpretation. The one about not sharing personal information, for instance. Any time we start a discussion or comment to one, we're sharing something personal - whether it's how many animals we have or whether we've been to a particular zoo or whatever. It makes sense to not share your specific physical address and phone number. But other information that defines you is hard to keep from one's posts.
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• United States
5 Aug 08
I also think that some people worry way too much about whether or not someone else is following the rules. If someone posts something that is outside the guidelines, you can report it. You can also be wise enough to NOT post a comment, knowing that if you do and the discussion is eliminated, your numbers will decrease.
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@neildc (17251)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
7 Aug 08
When someone starts a similar discussion, they are not stealing, unless they copy it word for word. This is really what i am pointing at this discussion, STEALING of post. And we have proof of this. (red star 88 @ 1469)
@kerriannc (4280)
• Jamaica
5 Aug 08
Hello there neildc, it seems as if my absence for the month of July has leave me in the loop. Congrats on achieving the red star. I have seen that my star has drop from 8 to 7 although I was not active here. I have also notice since being here yesterday that the really juicy discussions are no longer here. I need to have some fun again here in MYLOT.
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@neildc (17251)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
7 Aug 08
oh yes kerriannc, i seem to miss you for a while. so i hope you will be more active now. (red star 88 @ 1469)
@Wyldrose (1216)
• United States
5 Aug 08
HI Neil..I just started here last month and I did NOT come in hoping to earn fast money. I do realize there are rules and regualtions here as there are on most sites. I have read all the FAQ's and the guidelines and do not nor did I ever plan on doing any of the things you have mentioned. I realize, though, after being here awile, there are quite a few posts that are the same or close to being the same. I don't think most start the same discussions on purpose..some of them are just asking seasoned members questions about this site. Nothing wrong with that, is there? I've asked a few myself. I found this site completely by accident and before I even registered, I read the rules, etc to be sure I even wanted to join. The money sounds nice, but it's not the main reason I joined. I enjoy meeting people and hearing their opinions on different subjects. I can understand your frustration and hope, for you, things get better. Have a nice day. :)
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@neildc (17251)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
7 Aug 08
i learned that similar topics is not allowed though it can be posted by anybody. but intentionally doing the post copied the exact context is not a good practice. would you be glad it somebody reposted your discussion, especially if your discussion pulled much responses? (red star 88 @ 1469)
@tess1960 (2386)
• United States
6 Aug 08
maybe a discussion greeting the newbies and giving them the links to the guidelines will help. It does take time to get used to the rules and regulations of a new site.
@samijo719 (1054)
• United States
5 Aug 08
I'm a newbie but I don't think I have ever violated any of these guidelines. I actually really just enjoy reading and discussing things with other people.
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5 Aug 08
Hi Neil, I tataly agree with you there Neil, I have only been here just two months and I read the guideline and try to follow them, I have never used any other sites because I have no understanding of them. I do understand and agree with you. Tamara
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@iyah10 (4116)
• Kuwait
5 Aug 08
I am also a new here in MyLot friend and I am so thankful that you are mentioning the least of the violations that are is very usual for deleting those discussion.........It would help me a lot to be very careful on my discussion...
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• United States
6 Aug 08
Shiny Star - So Neil wants to be the new sheriff in town, huh? It seems that he wants to bring back the Socialist regime in communist Russia here at myLot, and tell everyone how to act! Try using some honey Neil, the newbies are more likely to listen to you! How did HE get so high and mighty!
Ok, neil, it's not just newbies, it's everyone. Remember, myLot is a global society, albeit on a much smaller scale. The only thing I really don't like is outright abuse of another member by anyone, and THAT I will report. I'm not that crazy about people who steal discussions (but I'll neg them at the very least for those that copy and paste). I think the reason a lot of newbies post affliate programs to a discussion is because sending a PM is a lot more difficult than it should be. As for personal information being posted--if a member wants to post a story about themselves with aliases, that's their business. Posting about someone else (even with aliases) isn't so cool. As for the posting the secrets behind the myLot algorithm...no one will ever know the real deal and that's fine (though it's fun to keep trying!). I'm not into policing others; I'd rather just keep my nose clean and keep posting. Perhaps myLot needs you (and others) to act as moderators...get you a big shiny star! But seriously, you come off as a pompous jerk rather than a helpful veteran with your phrasing. Remember, some of the members here are NOT native English-speakers! And I'm not trying to be mean or difficults or a b1tch either, just trying to point out that perhaps your method of delivering an important message could be improved!
• United States
6 Aug 08
scorpiobabes Terrific response and thank you for your good comment to my response. I agree he came across as a rather pompous figure. Reminds me of a school headmaster figure and he has been a member for all of four months! Once he has been around here for a couple of years, such as you and I have, he will get used to seeing the same type of discussions over and over again. Either you just accept that as inevitable and move on or let them bother you and become too judgmental, which will not earn you many friends.
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• United States
6 Aug 08
Oreo and Heather, I just looked up his profile..he's from the Phillipines and has only been a member for four months. He's definitely got a lot of 8alls! This gives me the idea for another discussion....hee hee!
@neildc (17251)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
7 Aug 08
you are all right, and this is really one problem with people with English is not the primary language. i think i mis-phrased my discussion so i am misinterpreted by all of you.
@peterliu (118)
• Hong Kong
6 Aug 08
Newbies will hate you after reading this. In fact, the ones who violate the guideline are not all newbie. Some one register new accounts every day in order to post spam. Internet is a free place. If some one violate the rule by accident, he will be banned by the administrator, but he is happy that he can do what he want to do. Happiness is the most important thing, right?
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• United States
6 Aug 08
peter, I mentioned to neil that his accusations are not JUST newbies, they're by everyone! Newbies can't cut and paste discussions. Newbies aren't going to be able to figure out the myLot algorithms (like anyone has). Basically, he's being a bit closeminded (don'tcha think?) against a group without knowing for sure. Read my post below; I included some satire (how'd you like the gold badge?), some valid points and a suggestion (perhaps this discussion could be phrased differently). Please don't judge veteran by him. And I hope that I'm one of the first to welcome you to myLot!
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@neildc (17251)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
7 Aug 08
peter, i don't care if members misinterpret me and hate me after this discussion, i just want everyone of us here be reminded that we have rules and guidelines that we should follow. i am not trying to be the boss here just like whiteheather said. (red star 88 @ 1469)
@neildc (17251)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
7 Aug 08
scorpiobabes, as a reminder, this is what i said in the discussion, "Now newbies and not so newbies, please, please, please, read the guidelines now if you haven't read it yet". so am i accusing somebody? my goodness, this topic is just a reminder to everyone of us. (red star 88 @ 1469)