Muslims spread deadly disease in Britain?

@urbandekay (18278)
August 11, 2008 2:03pm CST
Dr Mark Enright, professor of microbiology at Imperial College London, said: "To wash your hands properly, and reduce the risks of MRSA and C.difficile, you have to be able to wash the whole area around the wrist. Yet Muslim medical students are refusing to obey hygiene rules brought in to stop the spread of deadly superbugs, because they say it is against their religion. Women training in several hospitals in England have raised objections to removing their arm coverings in theatre and to rolling up their sleeves when washing their hands, because it is regarded as immodest in Islam. Sheffield University also reported a case of a Muslim medic who refused to "scrub" as this left her forearms exposed. Islamic Medical Association insisted that covering all the body in public, except the face and hands, was a basic tenet of Islam. "No practising Muslim woman - doctor, medical student, nurse or patient - should be forced to bare her arms below the elbow," It recently came to the attention of health officials at London Chest Hospital that Muslim health care workers, and visitors to Muslim patients, were refusing to wash their hands with the provided anti-bacterial gel dispensers before coming into contact with a patient. In the world of health care, this is extremely alarming: it is estimated that yearly in the U.S. alone, 1 in 20 hospital patients or some 2 million contract a bacterial infection while in the hospital; 90,000 die. Required use of anti-bacterial scrubs and frequent hand-washing is in place in all Western hospitals. To put it simply, when any person refuses to abide by this measure, it puts patients at risk of illness and even death. So why did these people refuse to comply? Well, because the antibacterial “rub” contains alcohol - and that is forbidden in Islam. (Evidently infecting already immuno-compromised surgical patients is just fine in Islam.) National Health Services assistant Theresa Poupa was at London Chest Hospital during a cousin’s stay, and spoke of her amazement at the situation she observed, “I could not believe it. The signs are large enough and clear enough but they just took no notice and walked straight into the ward. I was there almost every day for three weeks and I saw it repeated dozens and dozens of times. When I raised the matter with the nursing staff they just shrugged and said that Muslims were refusing to use the gel because it contained alcohol.” Particular antibacterial agents contained in “hospital rub” guard against such bacteria - one such agent is isopropyl alcohol. It is non-fermented and evaporates upon contact with the skin. It is not consumed in any way during hand-washing. This extreme stupidity and not one we should tolerate for a day all the best urban
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
11 Aug 08
Maybe if these folks really want to be doctors they need to take such things into consideration or even stepping foot into a hospital. Too bad hospitals have to let everyone in. I think that since people's health is being compromised, that this goes beyond any legal ruling of discrimination.
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@urbandekay (18278)
11 Aug 08
Yep, well said. all the best urban
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@Makro74 (591)
15 Oct 08
I agree, stupidity is the crux of your post. I mean surely this is a question of hygiene in hospitals and whether it is implemented by all. Where you have isolated a few cases regarding Muslim doctors, I can tell you, with a covert camera, in many hospitals - White, black, asian, chinese, you name it walk past a gel dispenser without using it, after theatre and before. More alarmingly, very few use it even entering wards. This is true across all medical professionals. So, LOL, very funny, that you head this post as an attack on Muslims when the figure contributing to the problem is probably around 0.1%. Some people are truly crazy!
@urbandekay (18278)
16 Oct 08
You have missed the point. Please read more carefully. all the best urban
@Makro74 (591)
15 Oct 08
By the way, the percentage falls even lower when we talk about Muslim women doctors.
@Makro74 (591)
18 Oct 08
I totally with you, except you are missing the point, read my response and then realise that your arguments, though maybe true are not worthy of creating such antaganism against a faith when it represents such a small factor of the overall problem. What about Sikh doctors to have turbans and beards? You cannot single out a set of people, when as I said above, covert cameras have seen the malpractice of the use of gels etc by all practitioners as well as operating theatre staff. Until this problem is resolved only then can we marginalise the sets of people with views contrary to hygienic practices.
• United States
13 Aug 08
I work in health care. We have hand sanatizers everywhere. You are a fool if you think you can come in contact with sick people and not spread diseases. Yet we are supposed to put foot baths in all our bathrooms so they can wash our feet? Is it me or is this backwards? Where is Conman?
• United States
13 Aug 08
Gorcon, I'm surpised he doesn't have something to say about this topic. Like maybe it's their "culture" to now wash their hands.
• United States
14 Aug 08
Look what I just found. http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/05/when_your_docto.html
@urbandekay (18278)
13 Aug 08
Who is Conman? all the best urban
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
11 Aug 08
Personally speaking if a health care professional came to me and refused to scrub and clean their hands properly then I would refuse that person to touch/treat me, I would call the administrator of the hospital and demand another person to attend to my needs who follows the rules of the hospital, this is my "right" as a patient, I will not allow someone to put me at risk for a unnecessary secondary infection. Patients have a "Bill of Rights" and must speak up and use these "rights" to protect themselves.
@urbandekay (18278)
11 Aug 08
Lets hope everyone does the same all the best urban
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• Philippines
13 Aug 08
is this really true?....
@urbandekay (18278)
13 Aug 08
Yes all the best urban
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@cdparazo (5765)
• Philippines
26 Aug 08
When I say there should be meeting half way or compromise...I meant in the way we do things & treat each other but not on compromising health. The reasons why there is war is that we are too rigid and inflexible. There must be some way. I many not know what that is, but its worth finding out to keep those germs from spreading. We cannot say that we don't care about their religion because they are there and we have to deal with them whether we like it or not. Being inflexible would not solve the problem and I think it would just compound it. They are people too with beliefs and certain values. How would we feel if certain establishments would belittle our beliefs as if its nothing? I know the feeling because as a Catholic I had experienced somebody making snide comments and making fun of my beliefs on abstinence during lenten season. I only seek understanding. Again, if there is a will, there is a way.
• Philippines
13 Aug 08
well, then i guess it is true..
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
7 Sep 10
Some of your old Posts are an interesting Read...Has this been remedied? I wonder how this is handled here in the US? Shalom~Adoniah
@urbandekay (18278)
8 Sep 10
Aye, and some are tongue in cheek all the best, urban