Are you offended by the term "mental retardation"?

@dragon54u (31636)
United States
August 26, 2008 5:50pm CST
My state is going to remove that designation from the name of a state agency that helps people with that affliction, saying it offends people. Several advocate groups have demanded the change, saying it's demeaning and insulting to call someone mentally retarded. Retarded means that growth has been stunted, not reached as far as it should. Isn't that what the condition is, mental retardation? How does calling it something else change anything? We can't call people crippled, we have to say disabled. Recently, that's changed to differently abled. If you tell someone a differently abled person is coming to your door, how to you know how to react?! You don't know if they're physically crippled or missing a leg or what. Now they're beginning to demand we call them differently challenged, which is even more unrevealing. Please don't think me calloused or uncaring. But why do people insist on disguising things, why are they offended when their disabilities or shortcomings are called what they are? I'm overweight, so I'm fat. F A T. Not horizontally challenged, not "heavy", not a "large person", I'm fat and not offended when someone calls it as it is. (I'm working on it!) So why must my state spend millions of dollars to change letterheads, other stationery, door signs, state vehicle designations and all the rest because people don't want something called what it is? There's no shame is being slow, mentally retarded, intellectually challenged or whatever you choose to call it. So why not call it what it is? Ok, I'm done.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Not offended at all. I am offended, however, by people who tell me I can't say it because I'm the mother of an autistic daughter. Heck, she even says someone's having an autistic moment. LOL Reminds me of a forum where some guy got upset because of reference to the "short bus". He didn't think it was appropriate because his step kid had to ride the short bus. I was like, "hello, you have to agree for your kid to ride the short bus, they don't just stick them on there to ruin the kid's life."
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Well, the bus is short compared to the other larger buses! And they're not short to attach stigma to the riders, they're short because they don't have to be long. There aren't as many riders. Would he like it to be called the special bus or something else? Either way, it's a short bus.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
27 Aug 08
It was the reference to the type of kids who ride the bus. My own daughter rode it because it was the type of bus that went to schools out of the our neighborhood where she attended SPED. My son even rode on one to go to preschool. Maybe the politically correct term is "not as long as the other buses bus."
@Sheepie (3112)
• United States
26 Aug 08
Words are only words. No matter what term you use, it's not going to bring back that leg or IQ level. I think it's just when a term is used in an offensive, insensitive way, is when we should react. I'm kind of concerned at how often teenagers refer to things as "retarded" but after all, they call things "gay" but homosexuals aren't offended by the term "gay" to the best of my knowledge. People are just loopy. In some areas you have to walk on eggshells, and at other times people get away with murder.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
26 Aug 08
Seems like walking on eggshells lately. And now I'm not to say I'm old, I'm a senior citizen. Nothing wrong with being OLD! I worked hard to get this far. Thanks for your reply, at least I know there are a few sane people around.
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@Sheepie (3112)
• United States
26 Aug 08
I don't think I'm sane at all! But I try to figure out the way things work.
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@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
26 Aug 08
I am not, but I think alot of people are mainly because it is not what is wrong with them. My son has CP, but because he is non verbal, people assume that he is mentally retarded. He is not. I think they are trying to make it so that they can use general phrases and not get into trouble. I am not so sure that I would get rid of all papers, but maybe change it when it gets to the end. I have no problem telling people that my son is disabled, crippled, etc., but he is not mentally retarded. There is no retardation there, is what the Doctors have said, and that is not something that should be used to describe him. He cannot communicate verbally, due to physical limitations, not because he does not understand. He cannot do daily living things due to physical limitations not because he is not able to learn how to do it. I think there is probably a fine line of what they are able to label people with without getting a lawsuit against them, as that is the way people seem to deal with things anymore. I would never do that, but many would.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Your son is very blessed to have his intellect. Did you see the story about the girl in England with CP that's only 10 but writes such beautiful poetry with a computer? It's amazing how talented she is and how she can finally express it thanks to the computer!
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
27 Aug 08
I see nothing wrong with calling a person with a low iq as mentally retarded and I go with my husband to physiotherapy and many of the people there are crippled, there is no doubt about it. When you are missing a leg, or both legs, or an arm, or part of a leg or an arm, when you have two stubs, you are definitely crippled. With fat it is different, there is the gradually expanding so you are large, and there is the blubbery, bouncy bouncy type of fat and there is there definitely obese and no one wants to be called the flubby bubby, bouncy bouncy jello wriggles all over fat. And now they want to call mentally retarded people, mentally challenged as if by hard work, they can overcome this challenge. I don't think so.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
I don't know why people don't like to call things what they are. There's no shame in it, nothing wrong with it, whether it's being crippled, mentally retarded, fat or whatever. A stick is a stick and you can call it a separated tree limb but it's still a stick!
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@sacmom (14192)
• United States
27 Aug 08
It depends on how people say it. If they are just stating facts, then no, I would not be offended. For example, when my husband and I were told by doctors that our oldest son was not only autistic, but was severely retarded as well, we weren't offended by it, even though it did break our hearts. However if someone was to say in a rude ugly tone of voice that our son is retarded, then yes, I would be highly offended and would want to punch that person out (even though I wouldn't actually do it). I have mixed feelings about this. I can understand why some would want this changed and for it to be called something else, yet at the same time it won't change what it really is. Why waste all this money on changing the words, when this money could be used for something much more useful, like homes for the disabled, or something else in those lines?
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
I'm so sorry about your son but I'm sure he's a joy to you. Those are special people, and I have invariably found them to be gentle, compassionate and very sweet. Much like the rest of us should be, but aren't. You would think there'd be better ways to spend the money but millions are spent on being politically correct and making sure nobody is offended by anything. I think we lose opportunities when we remove offense--people don't get passionate anymore about things that are wrong because we juggle around the words so much.
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• United States
27 Aug 08
Hello dragon54u.I agree withyour point of view on this topic.As far as I knew, menatl redardation was a medical term and not a "street" or "slang" term for someone.I have however heard alot of other rude terms for that.It is really ridiculous how some people get offended so easily. Just recently,well about 6 months ago, there was a similiar article in my local newspaper.a new minor league baseball team came about in our area.They were called "Iron Pigs". This caused a lot of excitement so, they sponsered a contest to name the mascot .(which was indeed a pig). Well, a little girl,I believe she was no older than 8,was claimed the winnernaming the mascot "Pork Chop". I remember thinking that it was such a cute name! She was very excited as the paper said as she won some prizes and was able to be the one person to name this mascot! No longer than a month later, there was another article about this. Some miserable man made a big fuss over the name of this mascot.He said it was offensive to peurto-ricans. He claimed something about it being a racist name to call s puerto-rican back in the day. So, as a result of this, the name had to be changed!I can just imagine the little girl's dissappointment when her parents had to tell her this.I am not positive, but I believe they let the little girl pick the name again,but come on! Are people this bored? Maybe that man thought this young child was being racist? I have a spanish husband.Puerto rican himself and he never even heard about that! He even said how ridiculous this was! Well, soon our conversations will be taking alot longer because we will have to edit our whole vocabulary not to offend others!
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
I've never heard that term either! Really, it's ridiculous how people look and try to find offense! As if an 8 year old could be racist, they have no idea what that is.
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• United States
27 Aug 08
I see problems with using it. For one thing, we have allowed comedians to use the term "retarded" so much that now it just means someone stupid. It's used too much as an insult. I think it has gone the way of "moron" and "idiot" and "imbecile." Just too outdated. Besides, it is used as a generalized term medically. People who have autism, cerebral palsy and other disorders are often referred to as "retarded," which they may or may not be. It's the same as, in the past, calling people who are unable to speak or hear "deaf and dumb." Dumb gained a whole new meaning by being used to mean "stupid." One thing you said confused me: "If you tell someone a differently abled person is coming to your door, how to you know how to react?! You don't know if they're physically crippled or missing a leg or what." My question is, if you tell someone that a crippled person is coming to your door, how do you know if they're physically crippled or missing a leg or what? Why don't you just yell, "There's a one-legged man at the door! Or there is a man with only one foot at the door? I don't think your argument made much sense. Most of us are scared or at least uncomfortable around people with disabilities, whether they are mental or physical. It's something we should learn to deal with when we are children, but not everyone's parents know how to explain it, do they? There is no excuse for this attitude toward mentally or physically disabled people; by the time we grow up, we should know how to respect everyone. And that includes using their spoken and written terms. It's not too much to ask.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Well, I meant that people used "differently abled" as a way to deny a disability. If a person in a wheelchair was going to visit I'd make sure to clear a path of furniture and stuff beforehand so they wouldn't feel as if they were putting me to any trouble as the furniture was already moved. If they were blind, I'd arrange things very simply, etc. People more and more are denying various disabilities in an effort to make themselves more comfortable. Those people who want the mentally retarded reference struck from the agency are the ones who don't respect those who have that condition. They want to deny them who they are to make themselves feel better.
@jtr115 (722)
• United States
27 Aug 08
I'm only offended when people use the term for people who aren't clinically retarded (for example, "You disagree with my opinion, so you must be retarded.") We can't call someone crippled? I guess we'll have to rewrite all the Bibles in the world. The last time I checked, Jesus healed the crippled, not the disabled. Don't even get me started on the term "differently abled" because "abled" isn't a word (not according to the dictionaries I've checked.) And, yes, I'm also fat. There have been times when people drove by me yelling "Fat boy!" I just smile and think "Is that all you could come up with?"
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Well, we can get rid of our fat but they'll be stupid and ugly inside forever. I agree about using "retarded" as a derogatory term. It's offensive then because they're being callous and insulting. You know, people dislike in others what they despise in themselves so where does that leave them?
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
27 Aug 08
I believe that some of it comes down to the fact that those agencies serve people with many different developmental disabilities, some that can't actually be classified as mental retardation - such as Autism or Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. Labels such as mental retardation can follow a child throughout life even though the initial diagnosis may not be correct and can have a very large impact on the services they receive through our educational and medical communities.
@newtondak (3946)
• United States
27 Aug 08
My daughter teaches at a special needs preschool and encounters children with various types and degrees of developmental delays. Many are able to mainstream into public school and are actually very bright and intelligent individuals but some symptoms of their conditions make them appear otherwise.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
A very good point that I hadn't thought about till now, thank you!
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@SangsTurks (1444)
• India
27 Aug 08
Hi, how are you? Its been such a long time since i have been here at mylot. So how is eveything and how is work?? i think the authorities are right, cause the word itself is very harsh. And although the mentally challenged know that but it still might hurt them. And i also think you are right, spending so much to change a term wouldnt help much but it might make them fel a part of the so called normal people. The authorities can also use the money to help the one's in need (in medical need )rather than changing the term.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
My point was that nobody wants to call anything by its right name, which is silly. How would I know how the treat someone who I only knew was "differently abled"? People have taken the word "retarded" and turned it into an insult, mostly children do it but I think our efforts would better be directly to educating our children to be compassionate towards others who are different from them. I haven't been working lately, the last temporary job ended a week or so ago and I've been looking for work but so far haven't found any. Hope everything is alright with you! I read yesterday about a lot of flooding in your country, I hope you're not affected.
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• India
28 Aug 08
We are not affected by the floods in the region. The world has become such a bad place nowadays, politics has become more important than life. A lot going on in India right now. You take a break for few days and then look for work, it would refresh you.
@nupats (3564)
• India
28 Aug 08
hi dear this is actually very tricky some people do get offended here they call such children special kid..i have a neighbour who has a special child and people do show a different attitude towards her but i treat her in the same way as my son because i think most important is to make them feel equal she plays with my son with the ball and she even follows simple instructions and this actually makes her happy...so i just call her by her name and this condition is never spoken off..i am fat and i am actually very sportive about it so big deal if i am fat i am fat very simple..but this is me i dont mind it all are not same
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
28 Aug 08
You are doing that child such a service by treating her normally, good for you! Your son will take your attitude towards such children and treat them well, too. I don't know why people want to deny the truth by manipulating words.
@relundad (2310)
• United States
27 Aug 08
I am not offended by the term, however I am old enough to know at some point it was the correct term, as given to us by doctors. I have an aunt that is now in her 50's and was diagnosed at birth as being "mentally retarded". If you look at her medically records it reflects the same. If you look at her IQ tests results it is labled reflects the same. All I know is that she is still she has been tested and mentally she has the learning capacity of a 5 year old. Nothing has changed about that. No matter what you now refer to her as. But we live in a time where everyone is to be politically correct. And let me tell you that the terms of being politically correct change about as often as politicians do. And in this day where people will sue you over any and everything, you had better be correct when you open your mouth or you will end up financially retarded. As a taxpayer I would much rather see this money spent on other things to better support the life they are forced to live due to mental or physical limitations rather than appeasing what someone deems offensive verbage.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Very good ideas. I wish you would run for public office, we need someone who knows how and where to spend taxpayer money. It's too bad people can't speak freely these days, and that judge still allow these ridiculous lawsuits--although I will concede that a very few of PC lawsuits are valid, as in racial insults.
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@soooobored (1184)
• United States
27 Aug 08
I am curious what they are planning to change "mentally retarded" to... "Developmentally disabled" wouldn't cut it, because that's a catch-all that also includes autism and cerebral palsy (among others), and there are different needs for different disabilities so it wouldn't work to just use the catch-all... I'm with you. I used to work with ARC (Association for Retarded Citizens), and people were shocked at the name of my company. I would explain to them that yes, they work with retarded citizens, and no, they are not ashamed of it. WHY would they change their name to go along with some current PC fad? And waste funds that could be going towards services for their clients?
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
I think that denying the truth by changing the words describing a condition are as much of an insult as the original name. I'll bet your work was very rewarding, the mentally retarded are very sweet, always helpful as they can be. They're better than "normal" people in their gentle humanity.
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27 Aug 08
Welcome to the age of political correctness. I too grew up in an era where this phrase was common. Slow learner was another phrase. The crux of the problem is that truly mentally challenged people could care less! They are after all mentally incapacitated. The perceived problem then lies with caregivers. I must admit if you look at from this vein then the offense of it becomes a little clearer. Lets say you have a child who is mentally challenged possibly by Downs Syndrome. The stygmatism of the phrase retarded or mentally retarded would seem very offensive indeed. The child is blissfully unaware of his or her disorder. You as the hypothetical parent would feel hurt, rejected, anguished and bitter over having your child whom you adore referred to by their handicap. The problem we face is only to fit a more compassionate phrase into our vocabulary. Still I understand where you're coming from. We are a society in flux. We are constantly asked to change our thinking patterns and bear the expense for the sake of political correctness. A phrase which in and of itself that should be changed, as there is nothing correct about politics! The good sense and manners my mother taught me keeps me from calling politics what it is.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Your last sentence is exactly how I feel! I wish we could scourge the earth of politicians and allow only statesmen to hold public office. Good point about the caregivers. I hadn't given that aspect of it much thought, thank you!
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@MissGia (955)
• United States
27 Aug 08
This day in age people are too sensitive. I think this sort of decision spans from the word "retard" and it's use in American culture. We are selves (well mean people, not everyone) have made this word offensive. I've seen the word "retard" and "retarded" thrown around as insults my entire life..from when i was in grade school on up. I don't think calling someone who does in fact suffer from mental retardation "mentally retarded" , should be considered offensive. And if they do take it offensively they need to grow thicker skin. It's a term used to describe a condition, and if it's used for anything other than that it needs to be ignored.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Referring to a person as mentally retarded, to me, is just the same as saying the person has brown hair or is tall or short. It's an accurate description of a condition, not an insult. I do think that people need to grow up a little and not be so thin-skinned.
@Bluepatch (2476)
• Trinidad And Tobago
27 Aug 08
It does denegrate from the person's outward image. It is better for people to find out about this in person and then deal with the subject in the context of their own rapport. It is not good for any officialdom to be stating a person is retarded. We can all judge for ourselves.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Well, the state service doesn't decide if a person has mental retardation-that's a physician's diagnosis. In order to qualify for the service, a person needs to have that diagnosis before they can take advantage of education to make the most of their skills and talents.
@bamakelly (5191)
• United States
27 Aug 08
I really don't think that "mental retardation" should be viewed as anything derogatory. That is what it has been called for years. I have heard a lot worse things in the name of retardation. I do not have a physical or mental handicap however I do feel offended when people make fun of these people. I don't think that you making fun and I think that you have a viable purpose for your discussion.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Thank you. It enrages me, too, when these people are made fun of. If everyone "normal" had a tenth of the niceness and plain good qualities of character that the mentally retarded have, it would be a much nicer world.
@bbjwlsn (263)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Hi dragon54u, how are you doing? I am a 59-year-old woman who has seen a whole lot in those 59 years. I am reasonably intelligent, sensitive, and never, ever knowingly hurt anyone's feelings. I have a 58-year-old brother who, as a child, was diagnosed with slight brain damage, cause unknown. My parents were told that he would never function on a level more than about 17 years old. I would consider him to be mentally retarded. I think it is totally asinine that we have to "watch what we say" so that we don't offend someone. Yes, we should sensor how we say certain things so that we don't hurt someone's feelings. But, to call someone who can't walk without assistance differently abled? OMG! As far as differently challenged, aren't we ALL differently challenged? I guess I just don't get it. I have never worried about being PC. I'm not going to start now. If I see someone who is mentally retarded, they are just that.
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Exactly how I feel. Your brother must not need much help except in judgement, that's a blessing. I'm sure he's brought a lot of joy to your family, as every child can. Thanks for becoming my "friend" here, I look forward to getting to know you!
• United States
27 Aug 08
I'd like to know how you offend a mentally retarded person by calling them mentally retarded. Really you are offending the people that feel bad for the person or are looking for the next lawsuit they can win big bucks on. I don't feel you can offend someone who doesn't understand the meaning of the word. Now if you use the word in a derogatory manner yes, it can be offensive. Then again so can any word used in a derogatory way no matter what its meaning. Blonde, would be a great example. It's a wonderful descriptive word that defines color of a golden hue. Yet in today's society, it can be used in a derogatory way as air head, hair-brained, and stupid.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
27 Aug 08
Many of the mentally retarded do understand the term because it's been explained to them in less than honest terms and meant to hurt their feelings--sometimes by their parents or caregivers, the ones who should be protecting them and building them up, not tearing them down. I agree it's sometimes used cruelly but it's a medical diagnosis and a truthful statement of what a person is. I think people are too easily offended these days and nothing in life can guarantee we not be offended. However, they seem to think there should be such a guarantee.
• Canada
27 Aug 08
I am a person with a disability and of course it would offend me to be 'labeled' as that.One time when I was working in a longterm housing facility as a hosuekeeper my boss asked why I did'nt understand and asked her if I could write down what I was told and she basically told me to leave.Now a days when someone says that I would be offended.Many people with disabilities are labeled that.But you just don't have to have a disability.Heck everyone has one of those these days and that is not wrong. I think it is rather okay to be "special". That makes you different.But really and truthfully it hurts to be called that.I grew up with many struggles and I still do.My husband thankfully and loving enough helps with me in how to pay rent,bills and grocery shop. Whatever you call it You call it.But may the Lord in heaven call you for what you call one person that.As it says in the bible he will deal with you in time. I had my problems in school and still do with the math and all. But I will never be ashasmed to be called "special". or "disabled" That's that.
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