Sweet turned sour

@zandi458 (28102)
Malaysia
September 21, 2008 8:04am CST
It got me thinking about a good friend who is, even as I type this letter, trying to dump an overly obsessive fiance. What's disturbing is that Ex (let's call him that) did not seem abnormal in the beginning. He was actually a sweet, sensitive, sensible guy. If Ex's problem was just jelousy or even obsessiveness, my friend would most probably be able to handle it. Unfortunately for her, Ex, without rhyme or reason evovled into an insecure, totally unbalanced, egoistical monster who actually appeared violent and dangerous. There's no way my friend could have seen this coming. So, it looks like there's only one sensible thing to do to avoid being in this type of situation - up and leave at the slightest indication of obsession, jelousy or anything that could very likely turn out to be more than just a minor romantic sickenss. She got me to pour out her grievences and a shoulder to cry on when this monstrous man get his pang of jealousy on her. I advise her to break the engagement (they were engaged recently) as it is the beginning of many more years of torture if she is going to proceed with this kind of person who has a thick jealous heart in him. How would you react if you are in her shoes?
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21 responses
• United States
22 Sep 08
This is simple... The sweet man had the inferority complex from the beginning. His jealousy is a symptom of his insecurity and most likely he has been abandoned in the past. This is what he fears the most and his insecurities worsen as he feels threatened that she too will abandon him. If she Loves him then she should shower him with Love and affection and she will in time see his insecurity fade and the sweet guy will re-emerge. He simply wants to feel secure in the relationship. Once he feels secure he'll be like most men wanting their space. Then she'll wonder what happened to that Love sick clingy guy.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
At this point of time my friend has not been physically hurt yet but what I gathered from her is that the abusive words and treatment she received is too much of a pain. She was not even allowed to go out with her girlfriends let alone to attend any functions without his presence. I am not too sure about his background but what I knew he came from a broken family. This might be the cause of his insecurity and inferority complex.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
22 Sep 08
and if you are wrong and he beats the hell out of her then what, all the love in the world will not mend a bully wife beater no matter what kind of childhood he had. why take the chance?
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• United States
22 Sep 08
I assume from the article she has not experienced any violence from him and if she has then she should seek help to get away. If a jealous man is violent with his lover then leaving is the most dangerous action and a person in that situation should have help in finding safety as in a battered woman's shelter. My comment is from a psychological standpoint and my personal opinion. I would never want a person to be abused or stay in an abusive situation. It was my understanding form reading this discussion that it is not understood why the sweet guy turned sour. The minute a person hears jealous they jump to conclusions that abuse is involved. Jealousy is an emotion and as such is fleeting just as is happiness, fear elation, and etc... For every emotion you can find an exact opposite and they come and go. I did not pick up from the article that he is in a perpetual state of jealousy or that he was a violent stalker. Simply a sweet guy who is scared of loosing his fiance for reasons unknown but to them. People whom Love one another often face personal trials and have personality clashes. Some people try to work it out and learn to coexist while others are quick to leave. It's a matter of personal preference. I want to stress if she is in danger by all means get to safety but I did not conclude that from what I read.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
21 Sep 08
would get out as soon as I could break that engagment now! MAybe he thinks it is getting close to getting papers on her. as some men think that is a licence to treat the woman any way they want to and they own the woman which isnt right!. So I would get her to leave him now!
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
22 Sep 08
very hard to change a person form what is in them . and most times a women cant change the man to the better for both of them.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
22 Sep 08
There is a deep love involved here and it might take sometime to counsel her to get rid of him from her life. When a person is madly in love it is difficult to put sense in her and she thought and hope that he will change for the better, which is most unlikely as I see it.
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• United States
21 Sep 08
get rid of him someone that possessive and dependant becomes violent most of the time!
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
Good advice from you. There are better and more loving people out there waiting to find a soul mate.
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@liranlgo (5752)
• Israel
22 Sep 08
I would tell her to leave this relationship as soon as possible. There is not one reason that she should stay with him. she is lucky she saw who he is in this stage of the relationship, if she had married this guy it would be alote harder. so..i do hope that she finishes what she started and get out of this very big problem.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
Hi liranlgo, I have been telling her that too. Snip the bud before it is too late.
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• Philippines
22 Sep 08
I'll do exactly what you advice her to do...there is no way I'm gonna be living with a monster and live my life to hell with him..I'd rather cut it off now that I still got chance and choice rather than regret it and hope he will change and tied up with the piece of paper already...that's better to do than get married...
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
If it does not work out during the trial period, they should not proceed with the wedding. There will then be a lot of heartaches if they cannot compromise and straighten their problems.
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• Philippines
22 Sep 08
Good day.. There is only one way to react. If she thinks that he could never change and he's behavioral changes is more psychiatric than emotional then I think she should for the moment cancel the relationship. It's hard to get into a marriage or a life time commitment when problems like possessiveness and obsessiveness are just outside the door.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
Thats what I believe in. Get out of the relationship before it is too late.
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• Canada
23 Sep 08
Your friend needs to run FAR FAR AWAY!!!! When my husband and I first met, we'd both had our fair share of past problems, and we danced around eachother for quite a while, quizzing and questioning eachother to make sure that we woudln't change. He'd been married to a woman who changed as soon as he'd married her, and I was told by one of my parents that the other had changed after the wedding. Hubby didn't want crap again, and I didn't want to go through it the first time. We were lucky.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
We learn through trail and error and if the union is not compatible it is better to split as disaster is waiting to explode once the dotted lines are signed.
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@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
21 Sep 08
I would tell her to get out before it is too late also. I have been in those types of relationships in the past and they are not anything to play around with.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
22 Sep 08
You're right, move out as quickly as possible as it is very difficult to change a person if he has this kind of character. It will get worse day by day especially when they have settled down.
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@checapricorn (16061)
• United States
22 Sep 08
[i]Hi zandi, trust is very important in a relationship and if this guy can't trust her, that will be an ultimate problem and heartache in the future and in their daily life...I will advice her to talk to this man heart to heart and then tell him how irritating and how burden is that in their relationship.... Hopefully, he will learn to trust![/i]
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
Any relationship will fail if there is no trust.
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@elro77 (190)
• Philippines
21 Sep 08
Advice your friend to leave that guy alone.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
22 Sep 08
I did but sad to say she is torn between love and hate. On one side she loved every bit of him but his jelous attitude makes her despise him.
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@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
27 Sep 08
I would have told her the same thing you did, get out. I wouldn't put up with that kind of behavior for two minutes. I think a very small amount of jealousy is just human nature, but when it becomes an obsession....then it's out of hand. And if he is acting like this now, before they are even married, it will only get worse once she says "I do". I hope she gives the ring back, packs up and leaves him far behind. And I hope she cuts all ties with him if she does leave him. And if he 'appeared violent and dangerous' odds are he will be once they are married.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
If his true color is out even before they get married, it shows that more disaster are waiting at the doorstep.
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@Barb42 (4214)
• United States
22 Sep 08
This is not the kind of person she would want to be tied down with for the rest of her life. She would be miserable and probably having to watch her back constantly. When someone sees these bad qualities in someone, they need to get out as soon as possible.Doesn't matter that she's engages; break the engagement today! My granddaughter had a boyfriend recently that was shooting her lots of bull, telling her he loved her after 2 months. She is young, sort of naive, but mostly that she really cared for her last boyfriend and he treated her dirty, and they broke up for good, so she was on the rebound. He shot her some good lines, was talking her into moving out of her home because 'her family didn't care anything about her and he did'. Man, when her Mother and older brother found out about this, and they told us, we all jumped on the bandwagon, talking to that girl. We knew he was deceiving her and she was eating it up. We kept telling her that he was only wanting to get her moved out and he would then tell her what to do. Her mother was taking her car, cell phone and anything else she had paid for. We knew that she would have to have a way to work, and she'd never be able to attend the ball games at her old high school. This guy was 5 years older than her, had his joys and now wanted to take over her young years. WE were having no part of it. Well, we got her away from him, thanks in part to her older brother that told him in no uncertain terms NEVER to have one thing to do with her again or he'd be sorry. Then, other day, she told her Mother how he had really treated her. He had broken down her self-esteem, and they'd be talking about something, and he'd say, "Oh, I forgot your stupid, you are just 18." Man, when I heard that, I wanted to go after him myself. She is anything but stupid,but she was on the rebound and he knew it, so he used it to his advantage. We had heard similar things from other girls, but it took some hanging in there by family members to make sure she'd never see him again. Now she is just playing the field, and right now seeing a very nice boy that is in college and going to make a lawyer.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
Luckily your granddaughter has a very concerned family otherwise she would have ended up having a miserable, thorny and unhappy married life with this sort of man. Young girls are rushing for early commitments and they forget once committed they have lost the chances of meeting better prospects with good choice to choose from.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
It is good that she finally come back to her senses.
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@Barb42 (4214)
• United States
27 Sep 08
She was on rebound and he knew it. So he used this to his advantage. Only thing, it didn't work! He used her lots! But, her Mom and brother caught on quickly. Papa never met him but had him sized up because of the age. And he was correct in his assessment. She's back happy again and doesn't want a thing to do with him. She's found that there are really lots more fish in the pond.
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• United States
21 Sep 08
I would go ahead and brake us with him considering she is not married yet this is a good time to do so. If she is having issues with him now waiting would just make it worse.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
I agree with you. There is no point to hold on to a person who only receive but does not give happiness to the other person.
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@glords (2614)
• United States
22 Sep 08
I think she should probably get out, marriage will either mellow him out or make him 100 times worse. It is not a gamble she would want to take.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
she can't differentiate between love and jealousy. Her stupidity is that she thought her boyfriend loves her so much that jealousy is part of the game of love. Which I think is absurd.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
Poor thing, I believe she is in that state now after being hard hit by constantly being abused verbally and emotionally. She is no longer in her right thinking mind.
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@glords (2614)
• United States
27 Sep 08
When someone yells at you or uses other emotional weapons (likes threats against you, others, or themselves) you can't think straight. When your heart is racing and your adrenalin is pumping you'll believe anything that seems to becoming from the same place you are in...so anything said load or with emotion. If he screamed "your on fire" while she was in this state she would probably stop drop and roll. Its brain washing and its common in abusive relationships.
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@subha12 (18441)
• India
22 Sep 08
it may be some psychological problem with that guy. elkse why should he behgave like this? i have seen this type of transformation in some relationship where th eperson started acting violently after.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
I never find out what has gone wrong with this guy.
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
21 Sep 08
Hi zandi... What would I do? I'd run for the hills as fast as my feet could carry me!! Or as fast as my car could fly!! I've been in that sort of situation when I was just a kid, 18 years old and had the day lights smacked out of me so many times that I can't count. When he broke my foot, I left for it was the final straw. He went for my throat but I had kicked him but not hard enough and that's when he tackled me and beat the living hell out of me. Never ever again did I stay in such a relationship. The first sign of abuse, I was gone!! Now I'm married to a wonderful man who I would do anything for as he would for me.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
22 Sep 08
zandi I would tell your friend that it is good to find out now before she g ets married to him, what he really is, and break it off right now while she is unattached. I would kick him to the curb so fast he wou ldbe dizzy with it. A life with him would be really awful and she can dodge that right nowwith just a few guts and some back up if necessary . tell her to geou
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
It is difficult to put senses to a person who is blinded by love, only when she reaches an unbearable point that would make her surrender.
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• India
21 Sep 08
If still the relationship has not been converted into the wed-lock, she may have to think it again and if possible get rid of it before the balloon blast. I am thinking that if I am in the place I would have nullified the things once for all but here is the problem of heart,how we can.... Tell your friend not to run after but be slow and watch, if the things resolves then get more time or prolong the proceedings as more it can be. May be the things become normal by the time. I think it will work, if not the end is there. How you see my suggestion please comment and have a nice day.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
Your comment is applicable. For me there is no chance of change. A person's attitude is difficult to change. That is inborn trait. Leave him the minute he shows his true colour. A leapord will not change it's stripe. Same goes with human.
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@magojordan (3252)
• Philippines
22 Sep 08
It's too bad that most of the time it's too late already that we realize the bad habits of the person we love. Also most of the time it's too late to change them. I think separating from a relationship is better than staying there only to suffer in the end. I hope the guy changes so that no one gets hurt in the end.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
I think it is the best option to just go separate ways before anything turns really ugly.
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• United States
22 Sep 08
If I were in her shoes, I would leave now before it is too late. The problems she sees now will only get worse once they are marriage. Be a good friend to her as she walks through this. She may need you.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 08
I have been her most trusted friend that she used to pour out all her problems.
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