Having 6 Kids With Autism.. IsThat Fair To The Kids That They Kept Having Them?

United States
October 1, 2008 8:18pm CST
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/Story?id=4245377&page=1 im in no way saying that autistic kids are horrible but if i had 1 kid that had autism and seeing and knowing that he may have a few (depending on how bad maybe a lot) issues and problems in life to where his life may be harder on him physically and emotionally i dont think i would continue to have 5 more.. now i understand that the chances are 15% that any other kids would have had it but 6?!? i would think i would be tipped off at at least the number 3 that maybe they just have unusual odds.. i am looking at this through the childs view.. how much he/she will have as problems in learning and social issues.. yeah some may be so mild it may not show as much but what if they are all ended up at the extreme level? what kind of life will they have and not to mention what happens when the parents pass away? how can they ensure care for all of them?? or even afford the best care now?? hopefully im not coming off as awful with this post but i just couldnt imagine having kids knowing ahead of time that there is a chance (depending on what it could be a higher chance etc) of something going wrong to where their lives are hard and every day is a struggle
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14 responses
• United States
2 Oct 08
Wow, where do I begin? I'm actually glad you posted this because my daughter is autistic and I am curious to see what kind of responses that are posted here and what others think as well. My daughter has mild autism and that is a struggle on it's own. I couldn't imagine having 6 kids with autism. I don't think I would have that many period. I have 2 kids, my daughter (age 7) and my son is 2 years old. My son doesn't show any of the red flags and his developement is where it should be on all levels. Having my son actually helped my daughter. She wasn't crazy about the whole idea at first because she was the only child for 5 years. She has major social problems that have improved a great deal. When she started school and being around other kids was tough at first but now that she is in the first grade, things are much better. My daughter improves socially over time with being near her peers. All children are different and no child with autism are the same. Sometimes having that many kids would help the situation but at the same time, it could be a problem for some of the other children. But overall, I would say that after at least having 3 children with autism, I would stop having kids. It takes a lot of work and time with one child. A child with autism can grow up to be a successful adult. My daughter has adapted and will continue to do so as she gets older and things will become easier for her. But of course not all are the same and others may have to struggle. The earliest that the problems are found, the easier it will be. There is help out there for those that need it and disability programs that will help the family including medical. It differs state to state and I don't know what other countries may offer. I don't think you are awful with your post at all. I think it's a great post and maybe I can learn more from it.
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• United States
2 Oct 08
yeah some do great as far as development but others are really bad off.. you just never know till its too late ya know? i worry about if they will be able to live normally or on their own or what because eventually the parents will be gone and then what?!?!
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• United States
2 Oct 08
I do understand what you are saying that's why I said that if I had 2 or 3 kids with autism I wouldn't have any more. I know that some people want a lot of kids but continuing having children after having 3 with autism is definitely not something I would do. Not only might it be hard for the kids but it would have to be hard on the parents. In turn it makes it that much harder on those kids. There are some that are at those extreme levels which would make it harder for them as adults. That's why I wouldn't have more than 3 kids especially if all of them were autistic because they need a lot of attention. I have 2 kids with only one being autistic and I am done already--two is enough for me no matter what...they keep me busy!
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• United States
2 Oct 08
they must have a world of patience since some people cant even handle 1 kid that is perfectly healthy lol
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• Canada
2 Oct 08
I agree with you. I think if I had 2 with autism I wouldn't chance it again. But on the other hand maybe the parents were hoping they would be able to have a normal healthy child. It's so sad to think they have to go through that, physically, emotionally, and finacially.
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• United States
2 Oct 08
if i were them i would have just adopted.. i dont think i would have risked the 15% chance of my 2nd child being autistic
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@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
2 Oct 08
Risk what? && adopt just because you don't want to chance having an Autistic child? I don't know, but I guess everyone sees things differently... I see nothing wrong with having or raising 6 Autistic children && if I wanted 8 kids, I would keep trying... AUTISTIC or NOT... Autistic children are amazing... Maybe I'm not understanding some of the other views in this matter, but I think it's kind of sad how people are closed minded. && by the way, what is normal? && as for the parents of the 6 Autistic children, they didn't care if the next child or the next had Autism, they knew the chances && it didn't bother them. Why would it? I'd like to know whats so different from your kids && an Autistic child? && do you know any Autistic children? If not, look into meeting one, they are just as wonderful as any other kid out there.
• Canada
2 Oct 08
I have met autistic children, most of them with medium to severe cases. Of course if I did had autistic children I might see things differently but I do know that it takes a lot more caution, patience, and every other quality a parent can find in themselves to raise children with autism or any other special need. I know that these children are amazing but honestly I am glad that my children can communicate and socialize properly with society. I'm happy that my kids are able to have freindships and can be trusted to out and play and cross the street by themselves and have all the independance that they have. I'm sure if you could ask parents they would say the same, they would really prefer their children be normal children without special needs. I don't mean to offend you, it's just my opinion.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
2 Oct 08
they are finding now that vacinations are causing autism, there is no gene identified in the body to say that someone is or isn't going to get autism. I have a friend his two boys are autistic his girl is fine. You just don't know.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
2 Oct 08
this has nothign to do with stupid, we have been told vacinations are good for kids, they are just now finding out that it is not it is just in the news now, guess what the kids are already born, guess what not all kids get autism there are many autism advocates out there, you need to read up on it before calling people stupid
@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
2 Oct 08
winterrose, you are so right about the vaccines && Autism link. I strongly agree.
• United States
2 Oct 08
well they (medical community/scientist) keep debating on the vaccine thing.. i would think they would have heard about peoples suspicions (who hasnt by now)they would not get the others vaccinated if they had gotten the first couple but then again some people are just stupid..
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@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
2 Oct 08
Well as a parent with one Autistic boy, I must say that these parents are brave && blessed. Autistic children or not, 6 kids is a blessing. Some people have it in them to care for children with special needs && I think that is wonderful. I also think that just because their children one after another developed Autism, shouldn't stop them from having more kids, if that is what they truly want. I'm sure these parents knew in the back of their minds that there was a chance each child could be Autistic. I know me && my husband have talked about having another child && in the back of my head, I asked myself "AM I READY FOR ANOTHER CHILD, WHAT IF THIS NEXT ONE IS AUTISTIC AS WELL?" Well, I don't mind having another child, Autistic or not, but my problem right now is my son. He needs so much attention right now && therapy that I think bringing another baby into our family wouldn't be the best thing right now. So we decided to wait, but we do want to have another baby, but we have planned to wait a few more years. && I know there is a chance of having another Autistic child && I don't mind that. I'm more prepared if anything. Right now I have a 6 year old girl && one Autistic 2 year old son && life is good, && maybe life would be even better if we added a new family member, Autistic or not? Time will tell.
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@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Well they survive just fine. They get by just like any other family of 8 would. && not all 6 have high functioning Autism. They said their life can be a wild ride at times, but they wouldn't change anything. I think they have it under control && it's not our problem to assume they can't be there for their kids 100% because from what I read on them, they are doing a good job.
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• United States
3 Oct 08
they need so much time/attention/therapy that i worry they wont have enough of themselves to go around to be there for all six and not to mention survive in a normal life stress way
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• United States
2 Oct 08
I have mixed views on this. Also i am biased because i have a brother with downs and autism and been around people with disabilities all my life. Ya i know you know this moon, but this is for the others who happen to stop by and read this. The chances of me having a child with difficulties is high, but does that mean i should give up the chance of having my own child. A child that no matter what happens to them, or what problems they may have, i will be able to take care of because i already know how to deal with it. There are going to be children with autism, so why not give them to a family that already knows the problems having a child with autism brings. I do not understand why they had six, maybe the wanted a large family, maybe they were hoping for a non-autistic child, i don't know. Plus who knows what the future holds for these children, they maybe able to lead fairly "normal" lives. Plus maybe medical science will come up with something to help the children.
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• United States
2 Oct 08
hopefully science will figure out something soon but they seem to drag their butts on everything..
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• United States
2 Oct 08
I think its a money thing. Why fix something when you can make more off of it being broken.
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@Sheepie (3112)
• United States
2 Oct 08
Well, I have not heard much about that story yet. But if the parents can handle it efficiently, more power to them! I do see what you mean, however. I can imagine it's backbreaking to have six children of any condition, and the autism is the icing on the cake. Hopefully the family is getting a lot of help, because the publicity will probably make this more available to them.
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• United States
2 Oct 08
yeah hopefully the documentary tonight will have people lend them some help.. i have to give it to them.. they must be awesomely strong people
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@Stephanie5 (2946)
• United States
2 Oct 08
I understand what you are saying. I have 5 children of my own, 5 step children and custody of my little brother. IT'S EXHAUSTING!!! All of my children are healthy with no disabilities. I'm very blessed!!! I couldn't imagine having 6 with autism. And I wouldn't keep having them if I knew that there is a chance, any chance at all, that they would have disabilities. I can't understand why one would. If they have the money and sources to take care of them, more power to them, but whew!!!! Great discussion!
• United States
3 Oct 08
Foxee~ I, in no way, meant that people with special needs children were not blessed also!! Every child is a blessing! And your point is very well taken. The way I see it is that if I had 11 autistic children, I wouldn't complain, however I would be terrified of what would happen to them when I wasn't able to care for them anymore. But I guess I feel that way in any case. And yes all children are handfuls at times, autistic or not. God bless you and your babies! Take care!
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@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
2 Oct 08
&& the parents with the 6 Autistic children are blessed as well. I am also blessed with 2 kids, one is Autistic. I'm just as blessed. Some people actually have what it takes to care for a special needs child && thats awesome there is people out there like that. && just because someone keeps having children after children && know that there is a chance they could have something like Autism or any disability doesn't mean they should stop having kids. I'm sure they have it in the back of their minds that the next could be Autistic. && I'm sure it doesn't bother them. Because Autistic or not, they are children && they are a blessing. If I could have 4 more kids like my son, omg, I would do it in a heart beat, if the time was right, Autistic or not. I guess you really never know, until your delt that card... but take my word, having a child with Autism, or any other disability is a blessing/gift && although you have your hard days, its still wonderful && I guess it opens your eyes up more. Heck, you have your hard days with any children, Autistic or not...
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• United States
3 Oct 08
your hands are definitely full!!
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@annjilena (5618)
• United States
2 Oct 08
no it not fair what they have but it,s not the parent,s fault either having kids we don,t know if they will have a birth defect are not it,s a chance we take and hope and pray they are born health.i understand if they lose ther parents they would become a ward of the state however we are imperfect ourselves so we can be born any sort kind way as far as birth defect.
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• United States
3 Oct 08
yeah but with those odds that are obviously against them i wouldnt keep trying
@ch88ss (2271)
• United States
2 Oct 08
I just read the article and was touched and also feel their pain. I am a mother to an autistic child too. I will never have another one because I do not believe I can relive the stress, frustration and most of all the heartbreaks again. It may sound selfish as a mother because my daughter will always feel alone but emotionally and socially she is alone already. It is a struggle everyday to get through a day. I also work full time- to pay the bills of course. Like the family, my daughter has the classic autism where she also wreaks havoc at home. She has communication difficulty, cries all the time, and very, extremely shy. It must be the families strong will to keep trying. If our children did not need extra care, then most couples will try to have more kids. All and all, the progress of every child is worthy of their parents love. If these couples could afford it then good for them, I do worry about them when their parents pass away. But if they can afford five children, they must have money stashed away for each child. I could barely afford to pay my monthly bills, so there is no money. With this being said, I think in a way the family with 5 autistic children is making a good choice. The kids will not be alone later in life, they have their siblings to help one another. Most autistic children go through therapy and do will later be mainstream into society just like everybody else. An autistic child is much happier when there is someone there to financially care for them. Without the proper needs, and therapy and autistic child will only decline in the skills they already learned.
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• United States
3 Oct 08
it never mentioned how well they were doing money wise (at least i dont think) i just hope they can afford the best treatment possible..
@stryker5 (52)
• United States
17 Oct 08
Anytime you decide to have a child, you take a chance of something being different about them. It may be downs syndrome or other issues. Just because one child is different doesn't mean the others will be. I have a sister is autistic and my 13 year old will be tested, finally, in february for autism. I understand your concern completely. My sister was constantly picked on to the point where she pulled all of her hair out. Eventually, she dropped out of school. My son is constantly picked on because he is different. He functions well enough to be in regular classrooms but lacks the social skills. There are days when he comes home in tears but won't tell me what happened. Then I get phone calls from some of his classmates telling me what is going on. I can't imagine going through things like that with 6 kids.
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• United States
17 Oct 08
i guess i just cant see how they would risk it or heck have 6 kids as is!! some people cant handle 3 much less 6 and to see that your already having extreme bad luck in being against the odds in all of them having it.. maybe i would understand better if i had kids
• United States
17 Nov 08
I have to disagree with you about saying the parents are having bad luck. Do you feel they are having bad luck becuase their children are Autistic? What's so awful about having an Autistic child? Autistic children are amazing!
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@Dday50627 (359)
• United States
2 Oct 08
I am going to agree with you on this one... I knew a family that had a child with duechennes, a Muscular Dystrophy. They had a second child that also had this. Nearly unheard of but obviously NOT impossible. I remember talking with them one day and asking them what their plans were. They said they were finished. They knew that the odds of a thrird were only 5% but... yea, 5% is tiny UNLESS you are the 5%. They loved their babies but understood also that their lives were going to be dedicated to these two for a very long time. THEY knew when it was time to say Whoa. This family as far as i am concerned were selfish in themselves. One or two autistic children will demand, command and deserve their attention in as much capacity as they could give. Now they have 6 and I dont care HOW good you are, you can not give the attention and care to 6 that you can to one or two. I dont want to sound cold either and I have dealt with care-giving my entire life. I KNOW the rewards of it but I also KNOW the time and love and giving of your whole self that is needed. They really take a chance here of having one of them get seriously injured if they are not 24/7 with them. Well I say God Bless them and I pray for the best to happen... WOWWWWWWWW///
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• United States
3 Oct 08
i just hope they are able to give them all the help they need.. each one needs more than 100% to insure improvement if possible and if you had 1 kid it would be hard to give enough attention and help but then have 6? ugh.. some one still to me will get neglected a little in the sense that a family with 6 kids the 6 kids all dont get equal attention even if they are healthy and have no issues
@lakantar (1573)
• Greece
2 Oct 08
Well my brother is autistic though he isn't on a bad form of autism... Well I can say it's a little unlucky to have six kids with autism... Usually families with kids with autism have a second kid or the rest of the family can help with the autistic kid... I can say that it would be difficult for the family and I hope people that surround them help them and help the kids have the best life they can get :)
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• United States
3 Oct 08
ugh they would need a ton of people surrounding them with that many
@lakantar (1573)
• Greece
3 Oct 08
well all we can do is think positive about those kids and wish them to have a great life... After all, kids/persons with autism are might be the only persons with a pure heart... :) Not as most of us....
@Pioddd (55)
• Belgium
2 Oct 08
My brother has autism. When i see how mutch my parents have to do to garantee him a good life. Then i dont understand how they can raise 6?! I dont think i would like to have more kids after i (by example) already had 2 boys with autism. Not even if they could guarantee my that the 3 child would be OK. It takes allot of effort to raise the children and it doesnt stop when they are grown up or 18 (/21)... I hope they will succeed !
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• United States
3 Oct 08
i know.. and even if you plan out everything who knows if everything will go correctly and you will be gone and just hope that you did as much as you could at the time to ensure them a good life later.. the company or who ever/whatever you went through to set up a fund or help for their future care when you pass may change or go under and some how screw up what they planned out
@LUCKEE (5)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I don't see the problem with it. I think these people are wonderful because they love & accept their children for who they are. I have read about this couple & each kid has a different level of Autism & I believe one is high functioning & the other 5 are not as severe. I think it's a choice only the parents can make, not everyone could do this, but the ones that do, we should praise. Good post though, it was very interesting to see what others feel on this matter.
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• United States
17 Nov 08
yeah it was interesting especially since we got to hear from people that already had autistic children