Is This The Final Nail In John McCain's Coffin? Here's The Evidence.

United States
October 8, 2008 1:34pm CST
Please take 13 minutes to view this video. I know John McCain was cleared of all charges, but there is plenty evidence that John McCain was involved in this scandal from day one. Here is the video. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IDofbll86dY Take 13 minutes and view it. Let me know what you think about it. In my opinion, if the general public ever sees this video, it will be the final nail in his coffin. Lloyd
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@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
8 Oct 08
I am not voting for either McCain nor Obama as I am not American. However did McCain and his friends demand that loans be given to the poor people who could not afford to. So if you get people to watch this video and Obama gets in, and you find that things are not as you wanted, this video does nothing. If McCain gets in, you can blame that the oil companies will be drilling in once protected land, but if Obama gets in the others can blame that the cost of gasoline will go up. So no matter who gets in, someone will suffer. So would you rather have someone in who was involved in a scandal or someone in who ensures that you will maybe pay $20 a gallon for gas and maybe more for food?
• United States
8 Oct 08
Earlier in the campaign, John McCain said that Barack Obama was responsible for high gas prices. We all know that is a blantant lie. Drilling for more oil will not solve our fuel problems. It will keep us addicted to the same fossil fuels that are destroying our environment. Barack Obama wants to give tax credits to those producing alternative forms of fuel such as wind and solar power. I believe this is the direction we as a country should go. We should never be held hostage to oil cartels such as OPEC. Lloyd
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@Idlewild (6092)
• United States
8 Oct 08
Keating 5 is an old matter; it was investigated and McCain was found to have exercised "poor judgement," but he was less culpable than the other four. He has many times said that it was a mistake, and I feel he's more than atoned for it by co-sponsoring and supporting the campaign finance reform legislation. So for me, it's a non-issue. For people who know less about it, it may be more important. I'm more concerned about McCain's general anti-regulation stand, which I find troubling not only in light of the financial and insurance scandals today but also other regulatory failures, like Chinese imports with toxic substances, food with E. coli, etc.
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@iriscot (1290)
• United States
8 Oct 08
I agree Idle. One thing that really concerns me about McCain is that he wants to drill more oil wells in the gulf. We just went through another hurrincane that destroyed a few and the oil spills are going to cause a lot of damage. We would just be putting more in harms way and not gaining anything from them for several years. There are other areas inside the U.S. that contain oil and a lot of the existing wells were capped several years ago. Why does he persist that we should drill more off shore. I makes no sense. Several years ago GM developed an electric car that they leased to several persons in California for test purposes. They later called them all back in and crushed them. The people who were testing them loved them and several wanted to buy them. The inventor who invented the batteries had a much better one he was working on that would provide a much larger mileage than the ones that were in the cars before needing a re-charge. The oil companies put so much pressure on GM that they recalled all of the cars and trashed them. This is documented and on a DVD. Now car manufacturers are tooling up to build hybrids, it's a little late! I can't vote for McCain, we need someone with a new vision for America.
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@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
8 Oct 08
I think that the environmentalists are blocking every move to uncap these wells because they are afraid they are going to harm the flora and fauna. It is the same as in Alaska, even though the place they want to drill is barren wastland and mostly ice, the environmentalists do not want drilling there for fear the drillers might harm a mosquito and I can fathom how they will stop the drilling or exploring, people standing in front so that the only way to get to the oil is to mow them down, etc.
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• United States
8 Oct 08
Hello Idlewild. It's been such a long time since I've heard from you. Where have you been and what have you been doing? It's sure nice to see you here at myLot again. I agree with you in regards to John McCain's anti-regulation stand. Everywhere we have tried it has led to corruption and the American people are left to pick up the pieces. I don't want John McCain's hands anywhere near our financial, insurance and healthcare institutions. His stance on these issues remind me of the Wild Wild West where anything goes. Glad to have you back. Lloyd
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@irisheyes (4372)
• United States
8 Oct 08
If Obama can tie the Keating mess and the current mess together, he can go straight to the White House. The deregulation that allowed the S&L scandal was further advannced in 1999 and had a lot to do with the current mess. (The partial and later complete repeal of a Roosevelt statute called Glass Steagle) I'm willing to bet that MCain voted for both pieces of deregulation. The question is: how did Bidden vote? (I'm going to try to look that one up)
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@irisheyes (4372)
• United States
8 Oct 08
Okay, I'll eat my words. McCain didn't vote on the repeal and Biden voted for it. Guess there is guilt all around and maybe Obama better tread lightly here.
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@ParaTed2k (22971)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Oct 08
Except for Obama is neck deep in this mess, having played a big part in getting the government to mandate that banks and loan institutions take on rediculous risks so that high risk people could get mortgages.
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@ParaTed2k (22971)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Oct 08
But I will agree with you, politics being what it is, if Obama can create the illusion of a ficticious connection between the S&L mess and the current one, it does help his chances of winning the White House. It's not always facts that matter. A good rumor can do wonders.
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@ParaTed2k (22971)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Oct 08
Yes, it is interesting, and makes for decent talking points, but something to base a vote on? Nah.
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• United States
8 Oct 08
There is nothing more important, at this time, than the financial wellness of our economy. Whatelse would you base your vote on that is more pressing? In my opinion, John McCain should explain his role in the failure of Lincoln Savings and Loan. He was obviously closely involved with the main characters in this scandal. Please tell the "Straight Talker" to come clean with the American people. I'm sure he has nothing to hide. lol Lloyd
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@ParaTed2k (22971)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Oct 08
There are many more important issues than something McCain was cleared of years ago. I'm no fan of McCain. There are plenty of things that he should be asked about, but this is a question for which there is already an obvious answer.
@fpd1955 (2075)
• United States
9 Oct 08
Not that it would sway my decision to vote for Barack, but I never heard about The Keating 5 until you brought it to light. It just enforces my thoughts about McCain's character. Other posters have said he used his status as a POW and received only a sentence of using bad judgement. I think he has a history of using bad judgement ever since he came home from Vietnam. We can ask his first wife. I asked a co-worker why she was voting for McCain. She said because he is a Christian and was a POW and because Barack is a Muslim. HUH? I informed her Barack is not a Muslim, he is a Christian. She insisted Barack himself said he was a Muslim. HUH? I told her he has been going to a Christian church for 20 years. She replied, "So, that doesn't make him a Christian." HUH? I told her GWB is a Christian and he hasn't done a very good job as President. She argued that he has done a great job, including after 9/11 and Katrina. HUH? She blamed the economy on Clinton. HUH? She blamed the war in Iraq on Clinton. HUH? She basically blamed everything bad that is happening in this country on Clinton. HUH? When I asked her to explain how everything was Clinton's fault, she decided she didn't want to talk about politics any longer. Go figure! But then she said, Barack has no experience to be President. I pointed out Palin has none either, to be Vice President. She said Palin has a ton of experience. HUH? Regardless of what some people think, just because someone was a POW doesn't mean that someone would make a good President. All politicians have their flaws. All I know is I don't want more of the same old same old. BTW, did you see Tina Fey's skit of Palin in the debate? Too funny! PEACE
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• United States
10 Oct 08
You can read more about John McCain's involvement with the Keating Five scandal from his hometown newspaper at the following link: http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/mccain/articles/2007/03/01/20070301mccainbio-chapter7.html Did John McCain think that his attacks on Barack Obama would go uncontested? Did he think that he would be able to bring up someone who did something when Barack Obama was 8 years old without his own past misdeads being looked at? This just shows how stupid the Palin/McCain campaign is. They have no diffection. They use the same bad judgement that they will use if John McCain ever gets into the White House. Like you, I don't want more of the same of BS. Lloyd
9 Oct 08
Hi lloydanthony111, Aren't thy all have some sort of scandel or other? everyone got a shelton in their cupboard and it will come back and bit theem in their @s* one day. you wait and see and it won't be just McCain's either. Tamara
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• United States
10 Oct 08
They all may have a skeleton in their closets, but John McCain has a long history of corruption. He comes off as a hypocrite for attacking Barack Obama in the fashion that he is attacking him. He just fails to deal with the real issues facing the American people. Lloyd
• United States
9 Oct 08
I just watched the video. Enlightening, but not surprising. I didn't trust McCain from the get-go. The thing is, I have to disagree with you about this video being the nail in the coffin. If people didn't see this coming, if people still followed McCain after hearing about this the first time, although not so in depth, if people still thought they could trust this man after he left his first wife in such a way, they will still follow him after this. They will sugar-coat the situation, just as they have his other past transgressions. Some people have an "Ostrich Syndrome" when it comes to McBush, they hear bad things about their favorite candidate, they stick their heads in the sand. But we only have less than a month until Obama is elected (if you noticed during the debate last night, he's claimed the position in his mind, and I have claimed it for him ever since I knew he was running) so the sand will be cleared for all of them then.
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• United States
9 Oct 08
You may have a point. Those on the right totally ignore how bad John McCain treated his first wife after she was injured. Yet they bring ex-President Bill Clinton into the mix anytime marital infindelity comes up. I've been saying for a long time that many on the right have their heads in the sand. They know that under the Republican leadership we are worse off than we were 8 years ago, but they still want to give the keys to the White House to John McCain, someone who is a mirror image of George Bush. With less than one month to go, I think Barack Obama needs to stay the course. Just keep doing what he is doing because it is working. I see so much desparation in the face of John McCain. John McCain has to realize that our Presidents are elected and not appointed. This may just might not be his time. Lloyd
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@soooobored (1187)
• United States
9 Oct 08
I'm sorry, I don't have sound! Is there some kind of transcript for this? Or summary?
• United States
10 Oct 08
After the speech, Keating walked up to McCain and told him that he, too, was a Navy flier and that he greatly respected McCain's war record. He met McCain's wife and family. The two men became friends. Charlie Keating always took care of his friends, especially those in politics. McCain was no exception. In 1982, during McCain's first run for the House, Keating held a fund-raiser for him, collecting more than $11,000 from 40 employees of American Continental Corp. McCain would spend more than $550,000 to win the primary and the general election. In 1983, as McCain contemplated his House re-election, Keating hosted a $1,000-a-plate dinner for him, even though McCain had no serious competition. When McCain pushed for the Senate in 1986, Keating was there with more than $50,000. By 1987, McCain had received about $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates. McCain also had carried a little water for Keating in Washington. While in the House, McCain, along with a majority of representatives, co-sponsored a resolution to delay new regulations designed to curb risky investments by thrifts such as Lincoln. Reluctant participant Despite his history with Keating, McCain was hesitant about intervening. At that point, he had been in the Senate only three months. DeConcini wanted McCain to fly to San Francisco with him and talk to the regulators. McCain refused. Keating would not be dissuaded. On March 24 at 9:30 a.m., Keating went to DeConcini's office and asked him if the meeting with the regulators was on. DeConcini told Keating that McCain was nervous. "McCain's a wimp," Keating replied, according to the book Trust Me, by Michael Binstein and Charles Bowden. "We'll go talk to him." Keating had other business on Capitol Hill and did not reach McCain's office until 1:30. A DeConcini staffer already had told McCain about the "wimp" insult. When he arrived, Keating presented McCain with a laundry list of demands for the regulators. McCain told Keating that he would attend the meeting and find out whether Keating was getting treated fairly but that was all. continued----
• United States
10 Oct 08
The first meeting, on April 2, 1987, in DeConcini's office, included Ed Gray, chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, as well as four senators: DeConcini, McCain, Alan Cranston, D-Calif., and John Glenn, D-Ohio. (Years later, McCain recalled that DeConcini started the meeting with a reference to "our friend at Lincoln." McCain characterized it as "an unfortunate choice of words, which Gray would remember and repeat publicly many times.") For Keating, the meeting was a bust. Gray told the senators that as head of the loan board, he worried about the big picture. He didn't have any specific information about Lincoln. Bank regulators in San Francisco would be versed in that, not him. Gray offered to set up a meeting between the senators and the San Francisco regulators. The second meeting was April 9. The same four senators attended, along with Sen. Don Riegle, D-Mich. Also at the meeting were William Black, then deputy director of the Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corp., James Cirona, president of the Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, and Michael Patriarca, director of agency functions at the FSLIC. In an interview with The Republic, Black said the meeting was a show of force by Keating, who wanted the senators to pressure the regulators into dropping their case against Lincoln. The thrift was in trouble for violating "direct investment" rules, which prohibited S&Ls from taking large ownership positions in various ventures. "The Senate is a really small club, like the cliche goes," Black said. "And you really did have one-twentieth of the Senate in one room, called by one guy, who was the biggest crook in the S&L debacle." Black said the senators could have accomplished their goal "if they had simply had us show up and see this incredible room and said, 'Hi. Charles Keating asked us to meet with you. 'Bye.'" McCain previously had refused DeConcini's request to meet with the Lincoln auditors themselves. In Worth the Fighting For, McCain wrote that he remained "a little troubled" at the prospect, "but since the chairman of the bank board didn't seem to have a problem with the idea, maybe a discussion with the regulators wouldn't be as problematic as I had earlier thought." McCain concedes that he failed to sense that Gray and the thrift examiners felt threatened by the senators' meddling. 'Always Hamlet' The five senators, including McCain, seemed like a united front to Black. continued-----
• United States
10 Oct 08
You can finish reading this story at: http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/mccain/articles/2007/03/01/20070301mccainbio-chapter7.html John McCain may not have been convicted, but it's obvious that he was a major player in this scandal. A scandal that cost the American people billions of dollars. Lloyd
@suruchi86 (1873)
• India
10 Oct 08
Oh my God ! This of course is the end of McCain.
• United States
10 Oct 08
This should be the end of John McCain. It's shows that he's always involved in things that hurt the American people. He was stupid for trying to assasinate Barack Obama's character. Now his character is on the line. Lloyd
@jillmalitz (5131)
• United States
9 Oct 08
While watching this video I found myself staring at McCain's body language, i.e eye movements. Notice how many times he blink and the rapidity of the blinks? I have seen some "experts" who have said rapid blinking is not a good thing. Hum...?
• United States
10 Oct 08
I also noticed John McCain's body language. And it said "guilty, guilty, guilty". He has a lot of nerves to try and smear Barack Obama when he has more skeletons in his closet than anyone else in this campaign. He is such a hypocrite. Lloyd
@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
8 Oct 08
I fully agree. It was a great video and anyone that does not know about the Keating 5 and/or may have been to young need to watch this and remember what poor judgement from him ended up costing the American tax payers.
• United States
8 Oct 08
I believe this video shows how John McCain was a main player in the Keating Five Savings and Loan scandal. It's a must see for anyone not familiar with John McCain's history of corruption. Although he wasn't convicted, he surely used bad judgement boarding on criminal. Lloyd
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