18 First graders taken to City Hall for lesbian "wedding"--valuable experience?

United States
October 16, 2008 8:56am CST
For the school-sponsored trip, 18 first-graders -- ages 5 and 6 -- were taken to San Francisco City Hall to witness the wedding of their teacher and her lesbian partner. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, the school's principal said the field trip was "a teachable moment." http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?id=285766 We do not have control over the values taught to children today.
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@KarenO52 (2951)
• United States
16 Oct 08
My opinion is that it's inappropriate to promote alternative lifestyles to first graders in such a way. At their age, I can't imagine what will be going through their heads.
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• United States
16 Oct 08
They will be so confused. If parents want their kids to see this at that age, it is up to them to provide it..not the school...
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@KarenO52 (2951)
• United States
16 Oct 08
I totally agree.
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• Canada
16 Oct 08
I dont really see this as an educational experience. It's fine that the teacher wants to share her lifestyle with the kids but i dont think they need to go down t the courthouse and actually see it happen. To me it holds no more educational substance than watching a regular couple get married.
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• United States
16 Oct 08
They want to push this lifestyle down their throat.
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• Canada
16 Oct 08
I read some of the post up there and i see your point much clearer now. While i do belive indoctrinating kids is wrong, there isnt any point in trying to sheild them from whats out there, theyre gonan find it eventually. In this case, the kids were too young to be presnted with such an issue and to learn from it unbiasedly.
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@AmbiePam (51042)
• United States
17 Oct 08
Wow. I haven't read the article as I'm answering this from my e-mail, but I wonder if they even got permission from the parents? Perhaps the link will tell me after I post this. We always had to get written permission from our parents for ANY field trip. And I think that is crazy to take kids to something I really don't think they understand. They wouldn't take them to a straight wedding, so isn't that the double standard that they themselves have fought so hard to be rid of?
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• United States
17 Oct 08
Double standards, absolutely. I did not see anything about permission from parents.
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• United States
18 Oct 08
There were permission slips, and an opt out. The trip took 90 minutes. Really, not much was disrupted! As for questioning whether this would have been allowed for a straight marriage, I know a lot of teachers who invited students to their weddings. But I don't know anyone who has been married between the hours M-F 8am - 3pm, so that's probably why nothing was organized within the school for the kids to attend.
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• United States
18 Oct 08
The bottom line is that not all people are liberal.
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@soooobored (1187)
• United States
16 Oct 08
It probably wasn't the greatest idea for this to happen during school hours, but I guess when the mayor is officiating there is less of a schedule to choose from. The children didn't attend the wedding, they surprised the teacher on the steps of city hall after the ceremony. I know a lot of teachers that invite their students to attend the actual wedding, and I think its great! Kids become really attached to their teachers, they feel really honored when they can be part of something like this.
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• United States
17 Oct 08
No, it was not the greatest thing for it to happen during school hours. It teaches the children that if it seems like a good reason to play hookey, do it. Whether they watched the two women exchange vows or waited for her and her partner to come outside the building, it is the same. The children did not walk away from school and say, let's go surprise the teacher outside where she is exchanging vows. They did not plan this and walk there. An adult did this. Not everyone endorses homosexuality as an alternative. Nor do they want their developing children to be a part of this.
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• United States
18 Oct 08
Don't worry, there were permission slips and an option not to attend. Two out of twenty students were not permitted to go, and spent the 90 minutes the other children were gone with another 1st grade class. That's roughly equivalent to field trips I attended in school, there are always a couple parents that want their kids sheltered from something outside the school. Nobody was forced to go anywhere, it barely disrupted the school day. I don't see an issue outside just being against gay marriage, which has nothing to do with kids.
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• United States
18 Oct 08
I would like to see a link for the information about permission slips. I have not read that so far.
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@twoey68 (13651)
• United States
16 Oct 08
It doesn't surprise me that this is in California...it's like the gay capital of the world. Kids at 5-6 barely understand marriage other than possibly Mommy and Daddy are married...to take them on a "field trip" to a gay wedding is simply a way of pushing the idea that gay marriage and the gay lifestyle is perfectly normal...and some ppl don't want their kids getting that message. I wonder if there were signed permission slips by the parents like there normally are for field trips and if not, why not? And why were these kids, who can't vote for anything at this age, wearing the proposition 8 buttons? How can they, at that age, grasp the meaning of this proposition enough to support or not support it? The teacher, the principal and the whole school district should be ashamed for using little kids in an attempt to teach them something that has no business being taught in school. Next thing they'll have them marching in their parades and having special classes added to the school to teach all the things about the gay lifestyle. If I had a kid in that school, they'd be pulled so fast the school would spin. If ppl want to be gay and live that lifestyle, go for it but quit trying to force others to accept it and quit involving children in it. [b]~~IN SEARCH OF PEACE WITHIN~~ **AGAINST THE STORMS, I WILL STAND STRONG**[/b]
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• United States
16 Oct 08
I don't know if they signed permission slips, but I couldn't agree with you more. They are using those children.
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@nadooa247 (1096)
• United States
20 Nov 08
I dont care what they do - i am against the whole aspect of same gender relationships - but i don't cram my opinion down anyone's throat. So why should it be okay for a school to do it? If the parents signed permission slips then whatever (the link is refusing to load with me). But if the school took them as a compulsory trip sort of deal if i were a parent i would have had a heart attack. If parents want their kids to learn about that then fine that is their choice. But if the parents weren't given much of an option that ticks me off.
• United States
20 Nov 08
They even had the children wear Proposition 8 buttons. To those little children those buttons are like little toys. They have no idea what they mean. Those children were usedddddd.
@nadooa247 (1096)
• United States
20 Nov 08
Isn't that like exploitation or something? These children are too young to fully comprehend many things in life much less something like Proposition 8... i actually talked about this with some cousins of mine and they were more than a little shocked...
@seeiloveu (100)
• India
19 Nov 08
It was atrocious, damaging to the young children ... who should be kept away, at times, from what adults do. The School as well as the teacher should be taken to task for this.
• United States
19 Nov 08
Unfortunately, they won't be.
• India
20 Nov 08
Why?
@Bebs08 (10687)
• United States
19 Nov 08
well, it is not good to judge what other people's preference in choosing what life they would want to have but involving little kids with this scenario is inappropriate. Teachers are teaching the sexuality in the classroom like male and female and their roles in the family. How can a teacher explain this to little kids?
• United States
19 Nov 08
I don't think it is a teacher's place to do so.
• United States
19 Oct 08
Well this is definitely a touchy subject..lol. I am for any type of relationship, and dont judge people by their sexuality. However, i do believe that 5 or 6 is way to early to be "taught" about the diff ways of life such as this. If its something they see cuz two women/men are kissing or what not on the street walking by, and ask questions that one thing if u choose to answer and discuss it to a minimum, but to bring this in front of children this age, for what most likely is their first time..is wrong. its up to the parents to step in and say, i will not allow this. I know that our school has to have permisson for any sort of field trips, each one individually, so no way would my son at 5 yrs old, have gone to this..which means yes we do have control or should anyway of the values taught to them.
• United States
19 Oct 08
With the way the world is today, they will see this sort of thing sooner rather than later anyway. What is next? Bestiality? Open marriages?
• Canada
18 Oct 08
What is wrong with teaching children about equal rights and marriage? Should we only teach children about heterosexual marriage? I had heterosexual married parents, grew up in a traditional nuclear family, and all we ever did was FIGHT! They fought with eachother, my sister and I fought with eachother, we fought with our parents. i think that anything to do to teach children about love is a good thing.
• United States
18 Oct 08
I don't have children but if I did, they would be taught my values. Once you give birth to a child, it is your right. If other people want to raise their children in another way, so be it. I do not think you fought with your siblings because you did not attend a homosexual wedding :)