Who is really anti-American?

United States
November 15, 2008 9:13pm CST
Barack Obama or the people who spread lies about him in order to discredit him as a good citizen? I mean I could understand it during the campaign, but America has decided, and the lies are really getting out of hand. He is going to be our President. Isn't it anti-American to hate your own president so much and lie in hopes to get others to hate him as well? Just a thought...
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Doesn't it matter who you are asking the question, "Who is really anti-American"? This election has been the craziest to date that I can remember. I don't ever remember a candidates "Pro-America" status being questioned, his place of birth, his religion, his friends non-friends, and I even remember one saying who can be president without a dog. In my opinion anyone questioning one's patriotism is un-American because if one doesn't want to be known as an American they could easily leave this country for another one.
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• United States
16 Nov 08
Perhaps anti-American was the wrong word to use, but I just feel that all of the lies that people are saying about Obama's relationship with Ayers and Wright and with him being an Arab and a Muslim and not a US citizen and the like are characterizing him as anti-American. I didn't mean to pull a Sarah Palin there, LOL!
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
16 Nov 08
It was perfect to use anti-American because that is the picture they painted for us.
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@sharra1 (6341)
• Australia
16 Nov 08
Ooooh well lots of people in the world are anti-American or rather they are angry about the way the US has exploited their country. I imagine there might be some Americans who are against some of the things that big American companies have done to other nations but smart people do not condemn a whole country for the actions of their government or the corporations. As an Australian I found the election warfare to be very strange. We do have scare campaigns in my country but nothing like what happened in America. I could not believe that people could swallow such obvious lies just because someone said them and then try and defend the person who lied because of the party he/she belonged to.
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@newtondak (3949)
• United States
16 Nov 08
There are also many Americans who are not happy when things such as grain and fertilizer are sold to foreign countries at lower prices than what they are sold for in the United States - driving OUR food costs, and the cost for OUR farmers to produce their crops even higher.
• United States
16 Nov 08
A lot of people accuse people of being anti-American because they do not support those who are in power 100% when the exact opposite is true. True patriots do NOT support those in power 100%, they question EVERYTHING. I belive that those who are often labeled "conspiracy thoerists" are the only patriots left in our country and, even if I don't buy into what they're saying (area 51, 9/11 was an inside job, the Veri Chip, New World Order and so forth), I'm glad that they're saying it. Those who blatantly lie about a high-profile individual, spread rumors and whatnot, are attempting to manipulate others. It's easy to manipulate the uneducated and uninformed, which sadly, many of us are. Happy MyLotting!
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• United States
16 Nov 08
I agree with you 100%! I don't think it's wrong to question, I also encourage people to question. But as you said, to spread lies is much different than questioning. And I don't think that this just is about Barack Obama, I think that there are people who did the same to President Bush and rather than questioning him they just talked a bunch of trash and lies in order to get people to hate their own President.
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@anniepa (27279)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Who is really anti-American? In my opinion it's someone who doesn't consider every square inch of this country to be a part of the "real America" or who calls some Americans "pro-American" and others "anti-American" based solely on their political views. I forget her exact quote at the moment but on the campaign trail at one point Sarah Palin spoke of those who "consider America so imperfect"; you're darn right America is imperfect, what country is perfect, but that doesn't mean I don't love my country and its people it simply means I want my country and the people in it to be the best that it and they can be. I also agree with your statement about it being anti-American to hate your own President and lie in hope to get others to hate him as well. We went through this sort of thing at the start of the Iraq War, although since in the beginning more people supported it (because they were LIED to) than opposed it, it was somehow acceptable to call us anti-American and even say we didn't support our troops. We were lied to in 2004 when we were told if we voted for Kerry we'd probably die. Our friend the D1ck Cheney said that, believe it or not! Maybe he was planning on shooting us all in the face, I'm not sure. I'm just glad we'll soon have a President, Vice President and Administration that will be truly for all Americans. Anything less would make them anti-American! Annie
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@newtondak (3949)
• United States
16 Nov 08
How is this any different than the way many people have treated previous Presidents? They did it with Bush, they did it with Clinton - they've done it with every President - it is not just because it is Obama.
• United States
16 Nov 08
I recognize this and am not disputing it. But I feel now is the time to bring it up. I'm basically asking which one is worse: spreading lies about someone or the lies that you are spreading in themselves. And I think when that person is President, it is taking it to an anti-American level.
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@newtondak (3949)
• United States
16 Nov 08
As far as saying that people are anti-American because of what they discuss regarding the President-Elect, I find quite frequently that anything negative that is said about Obama is deemed by his avid supporters to be a lie, regardless of proof to the contrary. Many people don't like or agree with President Bush, yet information is circulated quite frequently that is not true, but no one seems to be accused of being anti-American.
• United States
16 Nov 08
LOL, most of the people who lied about Bush admitted to being Anti-American, at least the people that I knew did. And I'm not talking about people who discuss things, I'm talking about people who lie.
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@monudjn (17)
• India
16 Nov 08
I am trying to find out why has this question raised? It's Not about Obama, its Not about anybody. Well before answering this question I would like drive you to some philosophy. Ok guys we will try to answer one question ie how many of us have seen a candidate or a person in competition got 100% vote (if he/she is Not the only competitor). Atleast i have not seen. Even Great Man like Socrates has many people who did not like his viewpoints. Whenever and wherever there is something good or bad happening you will see two section of crowd; one will favor and the other section will stand against. More number of people in the favorable side more chances of winning. Now in case of US Presidential election, we have seen two section of people supporting two candidates. Each section tries to convey something bitter about the other section. Finally whoever won has more number of people in his favor. We dont know what will happen tomorrow but for now Obama is the best.
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@lvaldean (1612)
• United States
16 Nov 08
No it is not anti-American to hate the president. It would be anti-American were that hatred to turn into something more than blogging, virlent whinning, whinging, hand wringing, and otherwise sobbing about how said president did not represent your particular brand of Americanism. The fact is that no President is universally loved. Most Presidents have their detractors and their fans. Many Presidents have harsh critics throughout their terms in office, consider Clinton who spent most of his 8 years in office defending himself against Newt and company. It is not anti-American to question the decisions of the President or of government. In fact it is very American to do so. Spreading lies, half truths, innuendo, and just plain silliness? Well that is the nature of ignorance. When you can't focus on real issues you focus on silliness. When everything else is done, as in this case; the election is over and the people have spoken all the left over BS remains in out there and those that are not satisfied with the outcome will continue to hoard their nonesense and throw it against the wall hoping that something will stick. Mind you clearly it didn't stick before but, as we said before; Keep hope alive. So lets answer some of the silliness - Conspiracy 1: President Elect Barack Obama is not a US Citizen. This assumes that his mother knew all those many years ago that he would be running for the office of President and she whisked him back to the US after giving birth, forged his birth certificate. What a cool idea! Also assumes that he wasn't thoroughly vetted, gheesh these people are loonies. Conspiracy 2: President Elect Barack Obama is a Muslim in hiding. This assumes that somehow those three years he spent with his secular Muslim step-father and his agnostic Mother attending public school made a great impact on his young brain. That the follow on years attending a Missionary Christian school, living with his Christian grandparents throughout the remainder of his childhood and teen years did not have any impact. It also assumes that the 20 years of his adult life is a lie, his conversion is a lie. Again, it assumes that he knew he was going to run for President and he would need to shed his "Muslim" roots way back when he was six years old. Gheesh he was smart back then. Should I continue? I don't think I need to do I? As for Reverend Wright, his entire ministry is not one of activism. Most people have not heard then entire sermon where he "damned" America. He marched with MLK during the sixties and his reality is one of 40 years of activism without a great deal of change. I don't have now and never have had an issue with Rev. Wright or his message. That others do is a problem for them. Others should do some research on MLK to see the progress of some of his messages, they don't differ all that much. Ayers, yeah he is a problem. He is a domestic terrorist. However, I don't know nor does any one else know the extent of the relationship between he and Obama. What we have is what he, Obama, and other say the relationship was. I have to go with that. The others are both Republican and Democrats.
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@adeeb747 (100)
16 Nov 08
HI you are wright you American are anti American all walred knew this so start to anti American and dont hate the others so all pbl will like you too
@newtondak (3949)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Doing what all of the WORLD wants America to do to make THEM happy is not always what is best for OUR country - some things that other countries want are not good for the American people - OUR President should consider OUR country first!
@suspenseful (40313)
• Canada
16 Nov 08
If he had showed his actual birth certificate, not the one shown on the web, but the official certificate, people would not have suspected him. And he did lie. So we cannot exactly trust him. Americans want proof that he was really born in Hawaii and not in Kenya. They want to know if he became president based on his own work and was not put in because the media wanted a black president. Also what if he makes some laws that go against American interests? Would you still love him then. By the way, if you had lived sixty sic years ago in Germany, would you have been considered anti-German if you loved Adolph Hitler? Also what about Bush. Why was it all right to hate Bush, and not Obama?
• United States
16 Nov 08
Uh, of course I wouldn't support Hitler, this discussion isn't about supporting and loving their president, it's about not lying about him. If you actually do have proof that Obama lied about his birth certificate, which I do not believe because I have seen other proof suggesting that he was telling the truth, then by all means, tell the truth about it. I'm just tired of people making stuff up.
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@soooobored (1187)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Spreading lies is gross, no matter who is the target. So definitely it is unpatriotic to do so. However, if questions arise about a person in a great position of power, they should be thoroughly investigated. Maybe not to the extent of the lawsuit over Obama's birth certificate (at some point that lawyer was just shaking his fist at clouds), but definitely investigate! I also think a big problem is everybody thinks they are an expert lately. You know how people diagnose themselves on WebMD before going to the doctor? And that person is always harder to treat? Even though an official investigation may be over, people can always access the evidence for or against a person. So they can always be dissatisfied with the results.
• Indonesia
16 Nov 08
I'm not an Amercan,but if my president was discredit him as a good citizen i'll be made