Dravid can never be anODI player

India
December 26, 2008 1:52am CST
You can agree with me or not, but now I feel that Rahul Dravid was never designed to be an ODI player. This technically correct player is suitable for the Tests where you can take as long as you can to score your runs. But its not possible always in ODIs and never on earth in 20-20. On how many occassions have you seen Dravid's batting average at more than a run a ball. Doesn't it show that he is not an ODI player. But just the name 'RAHUL DRAVID', because of his talent has been included in the ODI team. No doubt, he has helped India in many famous win in tornaments and even in World Cups - one of his innings of 153 has come in a WC match - but overall he is better off in Tests.
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@srik11 (482)
• India
26 Dec 08
well i totally disagree with you... dravid has helped india out of many difficult situations...he has an average above 40 and a strike rate above 75...you just cant call him unfit for limitted overs ckt..even in IPL if you take a look back he was the most successful batsman for banglore....in one innings he scored 75 out of just 36 balls against rajasthan(correct me if iam wrong) he was there when the so called perfect ODI players such as tendulkar,sehwag,ganguly..were out of form or injured or out of the squad.... well in my opinion we should respect a guy like dravid rather than always critiscising him... have a nice day..
• India
26 Dec 08
Well said. I completely agree with you
• India
27 Dec 08
yes you are right and will like to add that dravid scored more runs in the IPL than ganguly, sachin and yuvvraj and at a better strike rate then them. he scored over 400runs in IPL. people have short term memories.
• India
27 Dec 08
Rahul was a good batsman, period. This crap of somebody being good for test, somebody bad for ODI is all baseless. A batsman, if he is good, has to play all sorts of Cricket. If he is not able to play well he should get out. This argument that he is a test batsman or he is out of form etc is just justifying the unjustifiable. Older players, or any batsman who plays badly in 5 matches and plays well in one match and again plays badly for the next 5, is not fit to continue. Mind you, he is paid extremely well for those matches he plays badly. We all remember the furore when after the Word Cup BCCI thought of introducing performance linked payment pattern. Will anybody accept poor masonry from a mason saying he is out of form or bad singing from a singer out of form. Why then different yardsticks for these extolled Cricketeers?
• India
26 Dec 08
well is this discussion a few years old....for your information i would like to tell you rahul dravid has played 333 one day for india scored 10585 runs in one day internationals with 12 tons and 81 fifties (only sachin has more than him) at an average of 40 has the fastest ODI fifty ever by an indian in his name add to that 193catches and 14 stumping. if you say this guy was never fit to play ONE DAY then i say my friend no body is. his stats speak volumes for him as an ODI player by which he is one of the most successful one day players the world has ever seen.
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• India
27 Dec 08
Clap clap...well said. He has indeed proved himself beyond doubt. Not everyone plays to the galleries and entertaining on television is not all that the game of cricket is about. So, lets appreciate class where it is due and respect performances that have gained the world's respect.
• India
27 Dec 08
you are right and thats the reason why indian sports do not progress one day these sportsmen are our heroes and the next day we are hitting stones...god knows when we will start respecting legends like dravid, ganguly, laxman to name a few.
• India
26 Dec 08
I don't agree. Dravid has been an invaluable ODI player for India. However, his making an ODI comeback is very unlikely. Not many have had it in them to do what is best in the team's interest. Too keep wickets with his limited wicket keeping ability showed where his commitments lie. He has seen India through many a tight spot in ODI matches. He has added stability and solidity to the unpredictability of a brilliant Indian middle order. To write off someone with so much class as a person who is not designed as an ODI player would be unfair. He has been a great performer for India at all levels. And yet, I don't think he will make it back to the Indian ODI team...because there are younger, fitter and truly talented players now waiting to prove a point or two and cement their place in the side. Here's one to THE WALL !
• India
26 Dec 08
See, he got his tag of the WALL because of his defence and not swashbuckling hitting like Sehwag or Sachin. Aren't then Sehwag or Sachin invaluable to the Indian team? Isn't Yuvi an invaluable all-rounder? Why then, aren't THESE players invaluable to India? Haven't they won India any matches? But still they aren't termed as WALLs. Because, their defence is not like Dravid who streches too much. Sometimes, even beyond being patient. While watcing him bat, and trying to be patient with his batting, sometimes TV watchers like us become patient. NO. I AM STILL SURE RAHUL IS WELL FOR TESTS!
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• India
26 Dec 08
We werent talking of Saching or Sehwag or Yuvi and no one is saying they are no valuable. The question was about Dravid and the point I was making was that he has been precious to Indian ODI cricket in times of a collapse when the celebrated swashbuckling crickets crumbled because they didn't have a wall like defense. ODI is not all about hitting every ball out of the park like 20-20 (and Dravid would be a complete misfit there). ODI is also about building innings. Don't forget that Dravid has hit 12-ball 50 when others couldnt. So if the question is about Dravid's ability as a ODI cricketer, I still say he has been invaluable. Whether he will come back into the ODI team, I don't think so.
• India
26 Dec 08
This is the pity of India. People like us are going to judge and giving verdict on who to play and who not to play. They are playing because they can. We are not because we can not. So Let them concentrate on play and we must concentrate on our duty. Surely our duty is not pointing fingers at legends of cricket who have dedicated their whole life for the game while we at best have played the game once a day for 2 hours. The country needs more alert people who are vigilant on frontier fighting the enemies. we like sports and we like our icons. So let it be so. No hard feelings to you my friend, but I am getting a little tired of all these expert opinions about Indian cricket from people who dont even have a clue how much the length of the pitch is.
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• India
27 Dec 08
hello Mr oriya Doctor... Which of the people in this discussion did you ask the length of the pitch? On the one hand, everyone is entitled to having and expressing an opinion. on the other, no one here is influencing the selection decision. Lastly, what does an academic discussion and exchange of opinions have to do with vigilance on the border? How is it going to help the nation if everyone gets obsessed with the issue of vigilance and lose every ounce of life beyond it? As a free nation and a responsible one at that, we should learn to balance lives and not reduce everything to our pet obsessions. So, if you have an opinion on the question at hand, we would love to hear it. If you don't, please do not ridicule those who do. It only makes you seem silly and myopic.
@Sheldon25 (193)
• Jamaica
26 Dec 08
When you speak of Dravid it brings back some great moments watching him playing for India with all those pride. Truly Dravid is one of the Indian players i truly look up to but i really do think that he should just stick to test cricket. Reasons been India have some really promising young players comming up who should be given the chance. Mr Rhaul Dravid kudos to you and i do respect you well done
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• India
26 Dec 08
I agree completely, but if the question is whether Drivid can be a ODI player, I don't think there is any doubt that he has already been a great ODI player for India. There are enough players waiting in the wings...younger legs, fitter and faster. His time in the middle with ODI cricket seems to have been past, but he is and has been a truly valuable ODI player for India. I have no doubts about that.
@Sheldon25 (193)
• Jamaica
26 Dec 08
When you speak of Dravid it brings back some great moments watching him playing for India with all those pride. Truly Dravid is one of the Indian players i truly look up to but i really do think that he should just stick to test cricket. Reasons been India have some really promising young players comming up who should be given the chance. Mr Rhaul Dravid kudos to you and i do respect you well done
• India
26 Dec 08
I agree with you.His style of play is more suitable for test cricket than one day.Now in India lot of players are waiting to get a chance to play in the international cricket.If a player continuously plays poor cricket,then there is no place for him in the cricket.Now ,Rahul is out of form and his age is another minus point for him.It is now very difficult for him to find a place in one day squad.Now it is right time for his retirement.
@coolcat123 (4387)
• India
26 Dec 08
His speed of making runs is very slow and so the risk of getting out is far more.If he starts playing attacking cricket like Sehwag then surely he can do much better in cricket and may be he may get a chance to play the ODI's also. Now he is not able to play ODI but future is in hin hands. He may change his style of batting and if luck is with him then he surely will succeed. I wish he gets his form soon.
@cameo22 (200)
• India
26 Dec 08
dravid is a good player no doubt about it.he is a tecnical guru.in way he is not a perfect one day player but when team needs a support if the pitch is not good for scoreing sometime other every batsmen have been struggling in such situvation's dravid played good innings.many times he did this.we can't close eye on that.20 20 is different we can't compare it with other 2 format of the cricket
• India
26 Dec 08
If u will see the current indian team than u can watch that there is now other batsman as good as Rahul dravid in the time when we lose quick wicket and there is need to keep wicket in hand. Earlier we totally depend on dravid when we lose quick wicket but look nowdays indian team when look hopeless when they lose wicket. Rahul dravid is great batsman, therefore his name was the wall. Altough his strike rate is low but odi is not a game like 20-20.
• India
6 Jan 09
may be you are in a way but i still believe dravid is one fine odi bastmen.yes his strike rate is much lower than the other batsmen so what ?a batsman like sachin or sehwag with close to 90 strike rate have the greater probablity of getting out quickly when compared to dravid.we are talking about one day matches.may be you are seeing it as just 50 overs,then see it this way.300 balls to score and survive and all u need his 10 good balls to get bundled with 100 runs.if u say that about dravid,wat can u say about chanderpal?his strike rate is lower than dravid and yes they r not winning matches but he is the only consisten batsmen for them recently next to gayle .strike rate doesnt matter much sometimes in ODI.talking about 20-20.where have you been during the IPL first season?he was the only guy who is staying upto 18 overs every match and probably the last batsmen to get out and he scored more than 300 runs in that season better than most others.all he took is 2 matches to settle down and then it was a pleasure to watch him in those matches.if he had 2 other good players performing like him,the royal challengers would have reached the finals.happy lotting
• India
6 Jan 09
I don't agree with you his strike rate in one day is above 75 so you can't say he is very bad player and in a test matches even sachin's strike rate is also under 50 both version of the game are sifferent. Do u ever watch 20-20 IPL only Dravid in his team score run with good averagwe and with strike-rate but now a days so many young cricketer are available for one day so I think he should retire for the one day and keep continue to play test cricket.
• India
26 Dec 08
YES......GUY.............I really appreciate your thinking and quote.As we're all experiencing his current performance , even , I Don't think that , he is capable playing any category of Cricket , it may be ODI,TEST or ( It'll be comic thing, that 20-20 Cricket,hahahahaha!!!!!!!!).I think his expire date from Cricket is so CLOSE. There must be opportunity to waiting candidates to show their colors in this GAME.I really appreciate performance and Consistency of GAMBIR. Good Day......
• India
27 Dec 08
and when gambhir gets out of form i am sure you will say the same thing about him....starting respecting sportsmen...
@rangeros (97)
• India
27 Dec 08
Rahul Dravid! Can you remember the netwest win when Ganguly swung his shirt? Can you even remember who played the best in that series? That was Dravid. Just because being out of form, you cannot say that he's not for ODI. Do you even know how many chances Sehwag has got before he started playing like a master these days? Countless times. I said that cuz I saw many people talking about yuvraj and sehwag. Yes, I agree that 20-20 can be somewhat different but there's nothing Dravid cannot do.
@aakay4u (799)
• India
26 Dec 08
I agree that he became more successful in tests than ODI's.however i dont agree that being a technically correct player was a deterrent in his becoming a more successful ODI player.there are many players who depite being technically correct are more successful in the shorter versions of the game.some of his famous acheivements are being the only ODI batsman to have been involved in two partnerships above 300.He has played slow at times,the reason being unncessarily taking too much pressure on himslef from whatever i have seen of him.
• India
26 Dec 08
hi there buddy,,,, ya your right i completely agree with dravid can never be a ODI player as well as a 20-20 player also his performance in test match has gone down in recent years i think he should be kept out of indian team and he should play some practice matches so that he can qaulify again for the indian team,,,,well also we have new kids on the block which are performing better now,,so we dont have a need to fulfill our team by extra players so dravid try finding out some new job.......