They would rather have you make individual transfer then doing in automatically
By suspenseful
@suspenseful (40192)
Canada
January 11, 2009 8:47am CST
I just found out that my local bank, the Bank of Montreal charges almost $5.00 if you make automatic, that is monthly, or weekly transfers from not just the checking account to an online bank but if for instance you make transfers from your savings to your checking like every month when you have direct deposit into your savings from your employer or the government in case of pensions, etc. and perhaps you plan to take a trip for some time and want some of that money transferred to your checking so that you can use your cash card or pay the bills that will come when you are away.
Yet you know that sometimes you cannot get at a computer or a telephone or there is not a branch of the bank you deal with when you are not in your own town or city.
Now I do not know if they do not charge these fees for senior citizens, or those over 55, but it does make me upset. Because by setting up an automatic transfer each month, I am saving time and surely they would to.
So does your bank have this policy?
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17 responses
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
11 Jan 09
When we pay for our life insurance annually they give us a better rate but charge us more if they deduct it monthly.
@LuckyLadyD (359)
• United States
11 Jan 09
I think that every bank is different.
Your experience with banking can be very valuable when looking for a bank that suits your needs.
I for one don't feel I should have to pay my bank for using my money, no matter how I choose to use it. They use my money, every day, and for free! That should be plenty, but it seems like greed is a bug bitten by almost everyone.
Because of situations such as what you are experiencing, I too have had to shop around for a bank.
I spend considerable time doing my homework on what the banks have had to offer, make my selection carefully, and open my accounts, only to have them bought out by a competitor.
This is very insulting, because my opinion was never even solicited. Hey, don't you think if I wanted that stinking bank I would have gone there in the first place?
Well, since my desire is of little importance to the bank, then certainly they wouldnt miss my money when I found myself another one, right?
So, that's my advise to you. Look for another bank. Research their policies well, ask questions, and expect to discover something you missed after you open it.
Good luck.
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@reinydawn (11642)
• United States
19 Jan 09
I mostly use Credit Unions for all my banking, and they tend to have way less fees than banks (and better ineterest rates). That would be a drag if they charged you for that, I don't think there's any work involved really, it's all computerized, right?
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@reinydawn (11642)
• United States
22 Jan 09
There's no way you can be a senior citizen... You so do not sound like it!
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Jan 09
My great grandmother on my mother's side lived to her nineties and I have a relative on my father's side who was 102 a couple of years ago. Of course, I do not sound like a senior citizen, that is because I do not live in an old age apartment complex and do not intend to.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
19 Jan 09
I do not have to worry because I am a senior citizen, and I may not get charged, but I will have to wait until next month to see. We do have a credit union near our place but it is not the one we have our joint account in.
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@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
12 Jan 09
Any way to skim money they will try to do it. I don't transfer money except to and from my Paypal account only so I don't have those types of fees. I don't think people should though.. I know when someone uses a ATM that isn't from their bank they will be charged more.
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@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
16 Jan 09
That is good that they didn't charge a fee..
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
31 Jan 09
But it is not the end of the month yet, and so I have to wait until Monday to see if they will. I hope they do not, because then I can set up another automatic transfer or increase this one.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
15 Jan 09
I just noticed this when I went to look into automatic transfer on the bank's site. I had to initialize the transfer from the ING site and they do not charge fees, so I went to see just in case I wanted to maybe make it a larger amount and found this information. However it might be they do not charge over 60s.

@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
11 Jan 09
Maybe we should go back to putting money in mattresses.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
11 Jan 09
Either that or keep the money in a high interest account. our bank started one, but you have to put $10,000 in it to get the high rate. Guess I will stick with ING, they do not have any fees.
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@chrislotz (8136)
• Canada
12 Jan 09
I think you might want to look at changing banks. I don't think they should be charging
you. I know most of the banks here, if you don't have an account with them and you want
to cash a check they will charge me $5.00 but when I use my own bank they don't charge
me anything other than the monthly service charge I pay which is $12.95 no matter how
many transactions I do.
I use CIBC and have been using them for over 30 years. I think the rate I pay, $12.95
is what I signed up for about 20 years ago and it hasn't changed since. So it might
cost more now but it is something I would check out if I were you. I don't think your
bank should be charging you so much for the privilege of using their services.
Just my opinion my friend.
Alrighty then, talk to you later my friend,
Have a good mylotting day, Chris 
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
12 Jan 09
The thing that is wrong with the CIBC is that when I had to cash my family allowance, there was a long line up, and then when I had to withdraw money from my Canada pension (and I had it direct deposited)_ there was a long line up. I had to wait until a few days later. And many of the long line ups were not people who wanted to get any amount other then multiples of twenty dollar bills, they were people who figured once they reached a certain age they could no longer use the atm.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
13 Jan 09
It's all these old people there. And the trouble is that now they have moved the bank farther away so it takes longer to walk. With the Bank of Montreal I can just go across from the Mall. And the Royal Bank's fees are too high even though they are closer. It seems that I cannot win. 

@chrislotz (8136)
• Canada
13 Jan 09
That's too bad. I guess it depends where you live and which branch you go to. I
used to live in Winnipeg but now I live in Calgary. But I go to the CIBC branch in
a town called Strathmore since I work in that town. I have never seen a line up there.
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@AnnieOakley1 (5596)
• Canada
6 Feb 09
Nope mine doesn't. I have had a bank account with The Royal Bank since I was 15 yrs old and got my first paycheque.
When me and my husband bought this place, 6.5 yrs ago, I got a 2nd mortgage from my mother and her partner. She said to set up the payments any way I liked. So, I told her to go and open an account at the Royal somewhere so I could set up weekly automatic withdrawls from my account into hers. I set it to go for 5yrs at a time, for the length of the term of the mortgage.
No extra fees whatsoever and it takes the money out of mine and transfers it directly into hers every Friday. It is just great! I never have to remember to pay it, it is never late, and weekly payments actually pay down the mortgage the fastest, too. That's why I chose it. It really would have been a pain for her to have to go to the bank every week to deposit a cheque.
I've always thought that the Royal was the best bank for customer service. In fact, for the longest time, they were the only one that you could withdrawl in $5 denominations, in case you had less than $20 in the bank, and really needed the money.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
22 Feb 09
I asked the teller about it, and it is just when you do it through email and to an unregistered account, like for instance, I have my ing account transfer registered with my Bank of Montreal and my Bank of Commerce but if I were to transfer to someone else, it would not work. Anyway by the time he finished telling me, I was more confused then ever.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
22 Feb 09
I have not tried transferring from one bank to another. Usually what I do is to use my Ing investment savings as a go between if it is a lot, but most often I withdraw the money from one bank account and then walk up the block a ways and put the money in the other bank account.
@AnnieOakley1 (5596)
• Canada
22 Feb 09
I can transfer money online from my RBC account to any other RBC customer or company that has registered with them with no extra fees whatsoever. I cannot transfer money to another banking institution though. For that, I use email money transfers. They cost $1.50 each, but I get 2 per month for free included with my banking package fees. I pay $11/mo for $500 Overdraft Protection and a host of other services. ie, free personal cheques, free money orders, $14 discount on safety deposit box, no charges for cheques written and a few more I can't think of right now.
Personally, I think the Royal Bank is the best one. Particularly for Customer Service. I used to be a Legal Secretary and TD was the easiest to get a mortgage from, but the worst for CS. I tried to open a bank account at the TD once, with a Gov't Income Tax Refund cheque once, on the insistence of my current boyfriend. And I wanted to use most of it to deposit into the account, but they wanted to put a 10 day hold on it before I could access ANY of it. I asked them if that was going to be the norm for my account all the time or was it just because I was a new account. She said it was normal all the time.
I told her that I could walk across the street, go to the RBC bank machine, and cash this very cheque for $500, without having any balance in my account to cover it. The Royal would trust me that much. So, they have been good to me, and I have stuck with them for almost 30 yrs now. In fact, when no other bank would give us the 1st mortgage here 6yrs ago when we bought this place (my first), it was the Royal that approved us.
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@mipen2006 (5528)
• Australia
11 Jan 09
I'm not sure in Australia, but I signed a transfer with my bank in Thailand to cover my credit card payment by transfering money from my savings account, and this is free, unless I use my credit card, and then it's only 10% of the use. Most banks have hidden charges of some sort.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
14 Jan 09
Here in Canada they charge you for everything unless you are a student or a senior citizen and then it is just for a basic account.
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@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
11 Jan 09
That is a very high charge. I think they should not charge us for us manually transferring our own money. My bank does not charge me for transferring out of my checking to saving but they limit me to three transfers per month from savings to my checking.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
11 Jan 09
I have not checked the amount they limit you to, but I wanted to transfer so much a month so that I would have enough for Christmas this year instead of using all the money I had that month in December. So I wanted it to be easy on me.
@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
12 Jan 09
not that I know but they might change the policy.
I only know they charge fee for using checks when paying bills or using ATM at another bank.
if they do charge for direct deposit and withdrawal too, I wouldn't save money there. I wouldn't mind they charge for the first time, but monthly? I don't think so. there must be other banks in winnipeg, you should find out about their fees.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
13 Jan 09
I think they got rid of charging fees for using checks, but they still have this charging a fee for arranging an automatic transfer each month from one account to another. The trouble is that that means that now I have to do the transfers individually. I hope they do not charge for seniors. I will have to get the revised pamphlet and see if they do not, then I am all right, but this is so bad and I do not like the idea of looking for another bank.
@alindahaw (1219)
• Philippines
12 Jan 09
Different banks have different ways of dealing with their customers. Some banks charge services fees to their clients they transfer money from one account to another while others don't. I think that you should check with your bank regardings their charges so that you will not end up paying for services that you can do without.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
15 Jan 09
I will have to do that. I just got last month's statement and it did not have any charges so I will have to check online to see if it is going to come through. I know when I go down and transfer individually I do not get any charges, but who wants to go out in this weather unless necessary?
@callarse1 (4783)
• United States
11 Jan 09
What? Suspenseful you should try to fight that with the bank! 5 CAD is too much to be paying just to set up automatic transfers. Personally I don't do automatic transfers. I just transfer it every time I get paid (biweekly). You are correct, I get direct deposit, actually that's the ONLY way they do it at my job. Then if I want to transfer money to my savings account I do (you may want to look at my discussion I just did recently on savings account). I transfer 100 USD every two weeks in my savings.
However I KNOW my bank doesn't charge for setting it up automatically because they have free bill pay. They do charge if I use my check card (debit card) as "debit" with merchants there is a fee of 0.25 USD per transaction. It's not too much, right? But it can be annoying if you use it as debit a lot. They charge 2.50 USD for non-company ATM withdraw & the other company usually charges 2.00 USD so it's nearly 4.50 USD to withdraw money if you don't use my bank's ATM machine...so I HARDLY ever use ATM that aren't my bank. I've been in some situations were I had to. They charge a fee of 35 USD if a check is bounced as "insufficient funds". That's NEVER fun, so I don't bounce checks! I'm super careful to make sure I have enough money in the account.
Cheers!
Pablo
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
19 Jan 09
So far they have not charged me yet, but maybe I should check and see before I put my foot in my mouth. It might depend on how many transfers I do each month, like the third automatic transfer costs and you get the first two free. I did check, but it is not the end of the month yet, and I know this bank does not send statements for that month until the middle of the next, so maybe I will have to wait until February to see if they charge anything. I hope they do not. I would be very upset.
@blackbriar (9075)
• United States
12 Jan 09
Well that sucks. I don't have to worry bout any fees at my bank other than the blasted over-draft ones when I fail to balance out my chechbook and overspend. In fact, my bank rewards me to use my checks, debit/credit card, their billpay, etc. I earn, on average, $100 a year from my bank.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
13 Jan 09
I am careful to avoid overdrafts, but I hate it when I want to do something every month automatically like transfer from my savings to my checking, and then have them charge $5.00 for the transaction. It is not that I have a lot of money in the bank and that I will get that back in interest, because I just get my pension check.
@us2owls (1681)
• United States
11 Jan 09
I believe that in some places it is against the law to charge these kinds of fees - even to charge for using an ATM that is not your banks. What they are doing is charging you fees to do what you want when you want with your own money. They are not happy that they gouge us with interest rates on loans etc. Banks are greedy and this worldwide credit crunch is showing us even more just how greedy they are.
@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
11 Jan 09
I deal mostly with a credit union, a "bank" owned by its depositors. They don't charge such fees, if they did their members (owners) would raise Cain! Do you have credit unions there? They aren't as greedy as banks because their members control the rules.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
14 Jan 09
We have our joint account in the credit union, but it is a long walk to there. My husband cannot drive now, and once a year, they want us to bring in our old atm debit card and get a new one. I wish there was a branch closer to where we live.
@joyceshookery (2057)
• United States
11 Jan 09
My bank does NOT have a policy of charging $5 fee to transfer money from one account to another. If it did, I'd be very upset. You're losing $5 when your goal is saving money. That's so bogus. Grrrr!
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
11 Jan 09
The trouble is if I did not make an automatic transfer, they do not charge. But if I said I wanted to put fifty dollars every month into my ING, they would five dollars for the transaction. It is as if they think that I am going to transfer two thousand dollars a month automatically instead of just a little amount. Sounds rather silly to me.
@crazydaisy (3896)
• Canada
11 Jan 09
I found that a TD is very good they have very good hour's open Saturdays as well
plus they treat you really nice,No charges if you are in late 50st,
I would not deal with CIBC because they very rude and they don't know what they are doing.
cd
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
11 Jan 09
I have an account with CIBC and my husband thinks I should put all my money in it, but I do not like the long line ups. I do not know if they excuse the charge for the Bank of Montreal or not. I will have to wait until my next statement, but the TD is farther away. I do know in the Bank of Montreal, they sometimes get confused with names especially if your husband does not have the middle initial. So am I married to the one who is quite honest or the one who is a crook?
@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
11 Jan 09
Oh, yes, the banks in my country are draconian. They not only charge you for what you have stated in you rpist but they also charge you if you make a deposit to youraccount at the bank or a a withdrawal! If they give you a print out they charge - for any service you may want there is a charge. And then, when their profits are poublkishe dthey have made billions of dollars. It is sick and not fair to Cynthiann the manager, or Joe the Plumber - whoever! I now get tense just walking into a bank and expect to shortly find out that they will charge you for this too. Excelelnt posting - close to my pet grieves. Blessings
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
12 Jan 09
And I am a senior citizen, but even I get charged for some things. Do you know if you have three accounts, you have to have them on one page or they will charge you to send out the second statement? And no matter what bank, they find something to charge you with. And some are even worse.
















